The NRL must INTERVENE

The only teams the NRL have taken control of and then sold off are Newcastle and Gold Coast. The only reason they did this was because they both had severe financial problems. I think they would want to avoid the legal stoush of taking over a financially stable club with the intention of selling it to someone else.
Not completely true mate.

The NRL has stepped in to take control of several clubs experiencing governance failures.

We can also add.

Melbourne Storm (2010)
The Intervention: The NRL installed interim administrator Ron Gauci to overhaul governance.

Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs (2002–2004)
The Intervention: The NRL forced major structural changes on the Bulldogs board, appointing independent directors and demanding strict governance overhauls as a requirement for maintaining their NRL license.
 
Not completely true mate.

The NRL has stepped in to take control of several clubs experiencing governance failures.

We can also add.

Melbourne Storm (2010)
The Intervention: The NRL installed interim administrator Ron Gauci to overhaul governance.

Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs (2002–2004)
The Intervention: The NRL forced major structural changes on the Bulldogs board, appointing independent directors and demanding strict governance overhauls as a requirement for maintaining their NRL license.
yea but they didn't sell them off which is what you are suggesting.
 
I understand people are frustrated and upset. That’s because they are emotionally invested. And they feel like it’s only natural that other people not connected to the club would care as much. But they don’t. And certainly not the NRL. You think PVL while he’s hobnobbing and making million dollar deals ever gives HBG a second thought? He has bigger fish to fry
Also probably looked at the crowds this weekend though & thought the big fanbase clubs in Sydney need to be successful
 
Why?
While other traditional clubs are linked to licensed Leagues Clubs or operate under member-owned models, the specific debenture structure governing Holman Barnes Group (HBG) the majority owner of Wests Tigers is unique in the NRL and professional Australian sport.

Why it doesn't work and it will never work?
While debentures were historically used by suburban social and sports clubs across Australia to raise building funds in the 20th century, no other top-tier professional sporting franchise in Australia remains controlled by a small group of debenture holders. Therefore, without the establishment of an independent board where football decisions and strategic growth are completely insulated from HBG internal politics and debenture-holder influences this 20th century old governance system will not allow a modern corporate governance standards to apply.

Does the NRL not care about the WT?
The NRL has intervened with other clubs before. So why have they not intervened but allow this Crookedness to continue? The crookedness is clear to see which is made permissible by an archaic type of governance which today does not exist anywhere else in the NRL or in any professional sport in Australia. It is beyond comprehension that the NRL has allowed this club to operate under an outmoded counter-productive debenture system structured like the one controlling the Wests Tigers for this long.

The only Solution.

Step 1.
NRL Buyout/Intervention:
Have the NRL step in to assume control or buy out HBG’s stake temporarily (similar to interventions at other clubs in historical crises).

Step 2.
Re-sale with Governance Conditions:
Under NRL custodianship, a truly independent board would be appointed to clean up operations, rebuild the football department, and eventually sell the franchise to a vetted private ownership group with structured safeguards.

Step 3.
The safeguards.
Mandatory Spending Benchmarks: Require minimum annual expenditure thresholds dedicated strictly to player development, recruitment, and high-performance staff to ensure the club remains competitive in the modern NRL ecosystem.

And once this overdue proper governance is in place then I'm certain that the WT will be a force to be reckoned with well into the future.

I think if the NRL would not be concerned about how our club is run, as long as we can pay our way, they're happy. If they did have to step in, they would be more than likely to get rid of another Sydney club for another Brisbane club, so I certainly don't want them sticking their nose in our business

Apart from fan 'pressure' I think the footballs club best bet is for the new CEO, Barry and Macarthur to work with HBG to form a better relationship, in turn HBG will be more willing to chuck in more coin and work towards an independant board.

So write a letter to the CEO & the football club asking them what they're doing in this area of concern.
 
Not completely true mate.

The NRL has stepped in to take control of several clubs experiencing governance failures.

We can also add.

Melbourne Storm (2010)
The Intervention: The NRL installed interim administrator Ron Gauci to overhaul governance.

Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs (2002–2004)
The Intervention: The NRL forced major structural changes on the Bulldogs board, appointing independent directors and demanding strict governance overhauls as a requirement for maintaining their NRL license.
Also both of those interventions resulted from salary cap cheating. NewsCorp removed the Storm board and appointed the new CEO. And Canterbury board resigned. In neither case di the NRL take control.
 
Not completely true mate.

The NRL has stepped in to take control of several clubs experiencing governance failures.

We can also add.

Melbourne Storm (2010)
The Intervention: The NRL installed interim administrator Ron Gauci to overhaul governance.

Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs (2002–2004)
The Intervention: The NRL forced major structural changes on the Bulldogs board, appointing independent directors and demanding strict governance overhauls as a requirement for maintaining their NRL license.
I would support NRL intervention if they forced the end of the debenture system at WA. It is the bane of proper and appropriate governance and decision-making involving members. But, would they intervene and what the cause? No good saying they're crap, that concept has not worried NRL one bit.
 
Not completely true mate.

The NRL has stepped in to take control of several clubs experiencing governance failures.

We can also add.

Melbourne Storm (2010)
The Intervention: The NRL installed interim administrator Ron Gauci to overhaul governance.

Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs (2002–2004)
The Intervention: The NRL forced major structural changes on the Bulldogs board, appointing independent directors and demanding strict governance overhauls as a requirement for maintaining their NRL license.
I think the key criteria is finacial status as opposed to governance issues. I think the NRL would face some serious penalties if they tried to ride roughshod over a finacially viable entity. HBG own us and as long as they are meeting the requirements of ASIC and Liquor and Gaming I doubt there is much that can be forced on HBG by the NRL.

For mine the revolt has to come internally and by that it is likely that the Debenture holders themselves have to come to the realisation that they need to let Wests Tigers be run independently or that their system of governance is holding HBG (and Wests Tigers) back and they relinquish the reigns.

There is an opportunity - HBG appear to be stepping outside of the constitution with the purchase of soccer clubs within and outside of the district. The constitution is primarly to support the social aspect of the clubs and Wests Tigers (Wester Suburbs Rugby League). There is an opportunity for members, of three years or greater, that have been given voting rights to raise questions at the AGM and push for reform. The key has to be infiltration of the membership to force change from the inside while pressure is also applied, as best it can, from the fan base who, if not members of HBG, have no say unless they don't attend games or purchase memberships. The unfortunate part of that approach is that is hurts Wests Tigers, the team we support, not HBG.

There is a way ahead but it needs to be coordinated and controlled and Darcy Byrne yelling from the rooftops is not the approach. The approach needs to to be two pronged, subtle and internal with the right amount to external pressure applied to make the internal motions and infiltration of the Debenture Holder group effective.
 
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I hate the debenture system as much as everyone else but just because we don't like it doesn't give the NRL the right to take over administartion and sell off the club.
Agree, there has to be a causal factor to trigger the intervention on governance grounds. If the shenanigans with the debenture members last year and the board positions didn't cause ire of NRL with regards to governance what will????
 
I think the key criteria is finacial status as opposed to governance issues. I think the NRL would face some serious penalties if they tried to ride roughshod over a finacially viable entity. HBG own is and as long as they are meeting the requirements of ASIC and Liquor and Gaming I doubt there is much that can be forced on HBG by the NRL.

For mine the revolt has to come internally and by that it is likely that the Debenture holders themselves have to come to the realisation that they need to let Wests Tigers be run independently or that their system of governance is holding HBG (and Wests Tigers) back and they relinquish the reigns.

There is an opportunity - HBG appear to be stepping outside of the constitution with the purchase of soccer clubs within and outside of the district. The constitution is primarly to support the social aspect of the cluns and Wests Tigers. There is an opportunity for members, of three years or greater, that have been given voting rights to raise questions at the AGM and push for reform. The key has to be infiltration of the membership to force change from the inside while pressure is also applied, as best it can, from the fan base who, if not members of HBG, have no say unless they don't attend games or purchase memberships. The unfortunate part of that approach is that is hurts Wests Tigers, the team we support, not HBG.

There is a way ahead but it needs to be coordinated and controlled and Darcy Byrne yelling from the rooftops is not the approach. The approach needs to to be tow pronged, subtle and internal with the right amount to external pressure applied to make the internal motions and infilatration of the Debenture Holder group effective.
That’s the thing HBG are financially viable but the club itself runs on an oily rag, just survives doesn’t thrive

Pulling membership likely means nothing to them
 
NRL need to make every club spend minimum $10 million every year out of their own pocket running the club on top of the NRL grant. HBG will soon look to offload the club.
 
That’s the thing HBG are financially viable but the club itself runs on an oily rag, just survives doesn’t thrive

Pulling membership likely means nothing to them
Exactly, this is why the only viable option is for Wests Tigers debenture holders to replace the Wests Magpies debenture Holders and either: change the focus and provide what is required for Wests Tigers to be successful while still meeting the cosntituational requirments; or vote themselves out of jackets and free feeds for the benefit of the Club. This still requires some coordinated pressure on HBG from external to the club while the likes of SM and the independent board members wrestle with them in an effort to have tem wanting to give us money as opposed to providing the minimum requirement to meet the constitutional direction. Without this sort of push nothing will change.

Trouble is even if we all became mebers of HBG it is three years before we even get a chance to vote or have a say and then only if you apply to become a voting member and the application is accepted.
 
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There is a way ahead but it needs to be coordinated and controlled and Darcy Byrne yelling from the rooftops is not the approach. The approach needs to to be two pronged, subtle and internal with the right amount to external pressure applied to make the internal motions and infiltration of the Debenture Holder group effective.

Yes, pressure needs to come from within as well as outside

So apart from fan 'pressure' I think the footballs club best bet is for the new CEO, Barry and Macarthur to work with HBG to form a better relationship, in turn HBG will be more willing to chuck in more coin and work towards an independant board.

If more respect and undestanding is encouraged, maybe HBG will be more willing to change
 

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