Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Kaito said:
He's earnt his crust. Others need 2 follow suit
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I honestly expect Nofo to produce the kind of football like Daniel Tupou - reliable metres, good try-scoring capacity, football smarts, very solid defence, quality clubman / representative / mentor.

Obviously he's not at his physical peak, but Nofo, like Tupou, should be an automatic and very reliable selection until he decides to retire.

But he's not, he's mentally not there. He drifts in and out of games. He still makes defensive howlers. He's extremely droppable and nobody questions the coach when that happens.

For a bloke to score 100 tries for Tigers and still be fairly unpopular, it says a lot. He's like the total opposite of Chris Lawrence, and we can talk about the positive legacy that Rowdy now has.
 
Given Nofa's defensive stats are almost exactly the same as Tupou then you'll be happy then and both produced fairly similar in attack too although Noffa has more tackle breaks and effective offloads but slightly less meters and line breaks
 
jirskyr said:
I honestly expect Nofo to produce the kind of football like Daniel Tupou - reliable metres, good try-scoring capacity, football smarts, very solid defence, quality clubman / representative / mentor.

Obviously he's not at his physical peak, but Nofo, like Tupou, should be an automatic and very reliable selection until he decides to retire.

But he's not, he's mentally not there. He drifts in and out of games. He still makes defensive howlers. He's extremely droppable and nobody questions the coach when that happens.

For a bloke to score 100 tries for Tigers and still be fairly unpopular, it says a lot. He's like the total opposite of Chris Lawrence, and we can talk about the positive legacy that Rowdy now has.
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Fair assessment as usual jirskyr. I may be a bit
too emotionally invested. He does something
good I bless him, something bad, I curse him!
 
jirskyr said:
I honestly expect Nofo to produce the kind of football like Daniel Tupou - reliable metres, good try-scoring capacity, football smarts, very solid defence, quality clubman / representative / mentor.

Obviously he's not at his physical peak, but Nofo, like Tupou, should be an automatic and very reliable selection until he decides to retire.

But he's not, he's mentally not there. He drifts in and out of games. He still makes defensive howlers. He's extremely droppable and nobody questions the coach when that happens.

For a bloke to score 100 tries for Tigers and still be fairly unpopular, it says a lot. He's like the total opposite of Chris Lawrence, and we can talk about the positive legacy that Rowdy now has.
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Chris Lawrence - the king of a dropped crash ball. The king of every game trying to go blind side from dummy half and and getting tackled out on second tackle.

I got kicked off here years ago because I was happy he was retiring in. Good bloke, but no worth the coin.

I actually reference him a lot when dealing with people at work. Great bloke but overpaid in their role.

Mmmm.

Arriba!
 
boonboon said:
Tupou - 18 games, 22 try causes, 27 line break causes, 22 errors, tackle efficiency - 56%

Nofa - 14 games, 12 try causes, 12 line break causes, 11 errors, 73% tackle efficiency

Brian To'o- 18 games, 6 try causes, 18 line break causes, 15 errors, 66% tackle efficiency.

Seems Nofas defence this year isn't far off Too the best winger in the game in the best defensive side in the game

Not saying Nofa is great but the vitriol he gets on here is silly.
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excuse my ignorance. What constitutes a try cause?
 
Tito Santana said:
Chris Lawrence - the king of a dropped crash ball. The king of every game trying to go blind side from dummy half and and getting tackled out on second tackle.

I got kicked off here years ago because I was happy he was retiring in. Good bloke, but no worth the coin.

I actually reference him a lot when dealing with people at work. Great bloke but overpaid in their role.

Mmmm.

Arriba!
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Pillock
 
Tito Santana said:
Chris Lawrence - the king of a dropped crash ball. The king of every game trying to go blind side from dummy half and and getting tackled out on second tackle.

I got kicked off here years ago because I was happy he was retiring in. Good bloke, but no worth the coin.

I actually reference him a lot when dealing with people at work. Great bloke but overpaid in their role.

Mmmm.

Arriba!
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You obviously didn't watch to much of Lawrence you should go back and watch a few games of his
 
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Magpie_Magic said:
Jerome is a genuine chance of coming here some are trying to make him Api.

Penrith missed him last night.
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I don't know if the club should sign Luai, I have said many times I can't seem to get a good read on his game. I have also pointed out that Luai has won over 80% of his games without Nathan Cleary. Cleary meanwhile is closer to 50% without Luai.
If we do sign Luai, he will be our highest paid player. I think the positive in that though is that is what he wants, he wants the recognition that he can do it at that level and it's not he who needs Cleary, but Cleary that needs him.
 
FrodoTBagin said:
I think the only thing the highest paid player at the club could say to convince him is that he will take a pay cut himself if it helps Luai stay.

What else could he say? Money isn't important.. while making the most.
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Penrith can always do a fiddle by paying Ivan more because it’s outside the cap and Jaw junior less and diverting funds to the wantabe gangster
 
FrodoTBagin said:
I don't know if the club should sign Luai, I have said many times I can't seem to get a good read on his game. I have also pointed out that Luai has won over 80% of his games without Nathan Cleary. Cleary meanwhile is closer to 50% without Luai.
If we do sign Luai, he will be our highest paid player. I think the positive in that though is that is what he wants, he wants the recognition that he can do it at that level and it's not he who needs Cleary, but Cleary that needs him.
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Agree there are some aspects to his game I don't like.

But he takes on the line and passes late which would fix many of our backline probs.

Plus, with Api and himself the hope is more would follow of similar calibre.
 
Yup, one who springs to mind is Tallis who is probably the most outraged one when a player wants more money... you know, the guy who got forced to sit out for a season because he tried to skip town on a contract to get a bigger one.

Geeze you would think Gordy was a saint who played purely for the love of the game & just signed whatever reasonable contract was put in front of him based on his outrage at Payne recently.
 
Magpie_Magic said:
Agree there are some aspects to his game I don't like.

But he takes on the line and passes late which would fix many of our backline probs.

Plus, with Api and himself the hope is more would follow of similar calibre.
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I also think he could make the transition to 7. He is the one who leads that team when Nathan is out, I am pretty sure they are just in charge of their sides anyway tbh. So he would just be going from leading one side of the field to both.. a far smaller leap than going from someone who isn't a leader to being "handed the keys" to the team.
 
Yossarian said:
I really don’t care if we come 17th or 16th tbh. I’m prepared to take a worse low for a better high.
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Yeah-Nah, how long do you have to wait for to get that so called high?
We have a salary to spend the same as everyone else plain and simple, the Bulldogs have decided to spend money to make money now and not waiting 5-10 years like we seem to be doing and praying that we have the players coming through the juniors to make this happen.
Just the way i look at it as we all have opinions!!!
 
pawsandclaws1 said:
Luai was missed last night. His stepping runs are creative and provide the Panthers lots of opportunities on the left.
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I will say on this point, either Cronk or Matty Johns after origin were talking about Luai's tendancy to just run from the left side of the field to the right without really making any metres. He will just palm, and step, and bounce around looking for an opportunity.

They highlighted how well this works for Penrith, yet for the Blues when he was doing the same thing it wasn't having the same success. The reason they gave for this was that he was playing in a system where they have all known each others game for years, they have all grown up playing together so the Panthers team can almost pre-empt the space he will create and just go for it. Support play is probably our biggest problem, so our teams attack in all likely hood could look even worse if we do not address our issues out wide.

Bula will evolve as will Tupou, keep Staines if we can and look at getting Bradman (Someone who has thrived on pre-empting space Ponga gives him). Just those 4 actually give the team a lot... Staines / Best are 2 of the quickest in the comp & both have great support play, Best / Tupou can create space from nothing whether it be through footwork or power (something that Staggs is great with), and they all have a good passing game, also they are all under 23. Bula is freaky in just about everything he does and has played about 30 games of rugby league total in the last 4 years. Before he left the game pre covid he was a centre so everything we are seeing from him is what he has been able to do while learning the role from scratch.
 
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