HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

The Chad said:
I mean, it's possible.

The independents, I can't imagine there's any way they agree to return to a position on a board that isn't of some use.

I wonder if the reports from those independents to PVL prior to their reinstatement don't paint the same story as we believe?

The only position NOT to be include as part of the PVL intervention was the return of Richo.

Barry O'Farrell's mate.

That doesn't ring true, does it? You'd think Barry would have been 100% behind a Richo return?
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I think Richo was sick of banging his head against a wall, that video that came out suggested that he was trying to bring in more investment to enable us to grow and they wouldn't have a bar of it.

Without it his hands were tied, no other way to improve the club beyond what he had already achieved their paranoia put the brakes on.
 
innsaneink said:
The riot squad was there...along with a.lot of cops...wests ashfield raised concerns with the local cops...wating their time and taxpayers money
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If they wheeled out the riot squad and police for 900 well mannered supporters today then with 10,000-plus attending Round 2 can we expect sniffer dogs, Polair, water cannons, rubber bullets and pepper spray? Why not lock out supporters completely so the HBG Board can be escorted by police to their "owners" box for free party pies and warm beers without having to see a single orange jersey.
 
The Chad said:
That could explain it, for sure.

Why would you think 3 independents would agree to walk back onto a board they hold no power over?
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I honestly think they are one step removed from NRL administrators. I think their job is to report to the NRL.

It's an opinion. I have no factual basis for it.

It's the only way I can see them accepting a situation that is frankly untenable. Particularly given how they were so publicly terminated and smeared.
 
Rock Hopper Steve said:
I think Richo was sick of banging his head against a wall, that video that came out suggested that he was trying to bring in more investment to enable us to grow and they wouldn't have a bar of it.

Without it his hands were tied, no other way to improve the club beyond what he had already achieved their paranoia put the brakes on.
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Again, that is possible.

The 'complaints' levelled at the very beginning of the whole mess by HBG were about transparency on some business level decisions. They ousted board members.

Those board members are reinstated after PVL intervention, and they agree to come back.

But PVL also spoke to HBG, so he must have heard about their complaint as well.

Richo was integral to gaining investment & organising stadium agreements.

Is it possible HBG believed the board had been involved, but got that wrong & were convinced to take them back- but the blame of the complaint has now been shifted toward Richo?

There is still the shadow of the investigation on Richo, despite everyone believing it's a trumped up charge.

For mine- and I'm just looking at it from what is happening- I can see a possibility that PVL agreed that HBG should have had more say & could understand where the conflict comes from.

Everyone is convinced this is about board control.

The only thing we KNOW from HBG is that they complained they were not consulted on business decisions.

Board control- their desire for it- is something we are willing to believe, but it's still speculation.
 
Just over 54,000 homes with over 22,000 built, 568ha of open space, Leppington Station and town centre, upgrades to roads and 239ha of employment land. Add the Macarthur and Wilton growth areas, Narellan, Camden and Campbelltown and you start to appreciate the size of the area. Page 4 provides a Vision, Page 11 a detailed map.

The NRL needs to look at the delivery model for RL in this area as well as our traditional areas.

 
The Chad said:
Again, that is possible.

The 'complaints' levelled at the very beginning of the whole mess by HBG were about transparency on some business level decisions. They ousted board members.

Those board members are reinstated after PVL intervention, and they agree to come back.

But PVL also spoke to HBG, so he must have heard about their complaint as well.

Richo was integral to gaining investment & organising stadium agreements.

Is it possible HBG believed the board had been involved, but got that wrong & were convinced to take them back- but the blame of the complaint has now been shifted toward Richo?

There is still the shadow of the investigation on Richo, despite everyone believing it's a trumped up charge.

For mine- and I'm just looking at it from what is happening- I can see a possibility that PVL agreed that HBG should have had more say & could understand where the conflict comes from.

Everyone is convinced this is about board control.

The only thing we KNOW from HBG is that they complained they were not consulted on business decisions.

Board control- their desire for it- is something we are willing to believe, but it's still speculation.
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Good points but what it all concludes for me is this debenture system has to some degree a 3rd Reich smell to it.

Sorry if this offends anyone.
 
LiverpoolTiger said:
I noticed that.

Have become quite addicted to this discussion so I've read most of the pages on this topic and I've noticed it's dominated by that WestsTigers guy.

Also noticed abuse at not only alternative views but nuanced ones.
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You're only new & I don't know what you're angle is etc. Take everything on face value.

weststigers is not a bad poster on here. I've spoken to him & he's a cool guy as far as I'm concerned. There are a few others on here that have started using similar styles in this 'emotive topic'.

Don't blame the posters for the way this place responds. It's been allowed to happen.

"emotive topic" is a shield to use to allow some aggression to be let out. If you can deal with the consistency of 'education' you are given on here, it's generally a good place to be.
 
Right. So despite doing really well on and off the field last year, you are only concerned with the make up of the board?

Is it fair to say that prior to last years independent board, the board had been HBG majority for 10 years presiding over the worst period in the clubs history?

Let's for a moment imagine the last 10 years was run under a Balmain majority. Would you be marching to the same tune as now?
 
69-05-41 said:
If they wheeled out the riot squad and police for 900 well mannered supporters today then with 10,000-plus attending Round 2 can we expect sniffer dogs, Polair, water cannons, rubber bullets and pepper spray? Why not lock out supporters completely so the HBG Board can be escorted by police to their "owners" box for free party pies and warm beers without having to see a single orange jersey.
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Except the ones the team is wearing. Poor blokes.
 
The NRL has 54,000 opportunities to convince parents that their sons and daughters should be playing RL. This means WTs has 54,000 opportunities to unearth the next Cleary, Bula, Luai, Fulton, Gibbs, Makasini etc via our junior development. 54,000 additional households who will watch the NRL on either pay tv or free to air coverage. 54,000 households would potentially fill a new stadium out at Camden, Narellen etc with associated recreational facilities. We need to be far more strategic with our planning.
 
The Chad said:
Again, that is possible.

The 'complaints' levelled at the very beginning of the whole mess by HBG were about transparency on some business level decisions. They ousted board members.

Those board members are reinstated after PVL intervention, and they agree to come back.

But PVL also spoke to HBG, so he must have heard about their complaint as well.

Richo was integral to gaining investment & organising stadium agreements.

Is it possible HBG believed the board had been involved, but got that wrong & were convinced to take them back- but the blame of the complaint has now been shifted toward Richo?

There is still the shadow of the investigation on Richo, despite everyone believing it's a trumped up charge.

For mine- and I'm just looking at it from what is happening- I can see a possibility that PVL agreed that HBG should have had more say & could understand where the conflict comes from.

Everyone is convinced this is about board control.

The only thing we KNOW from HBG is that they complained they were not consulted on business decisions.

Board control- their desire for it- is something we are willing to believe, but it's still speculation.
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There's one thing we also don't know.

How it's possible that 2 HBG board members slept through all the huge commercial decisions, that cost the independents their jobs, as they were being voted on by the board.
 

And that says it all about you. Not about the club, about the end of it. No real Wests Tigers fan is calling for the old clubs to return.

So your arguments are now completely null and void as your true colours are now out.

Do not call out others, as your agenda is now clear, and is not wanted here, within HBG, or anywhere near the WESTS TIGERS.
 
weststigers said:
There's one thing we also don't know.

How it's possible that 2 HBG board members slept through all the huge commercial decisions, that cost the independents their jobs, as they were being voted on by the board.
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How did PVL overlook that?

Unless he didn't. And as I suggested- that blame shifts from the remarkably returned & formerly accused board members & is shifted to the no-longer-there former CEO that was instrumental in ground deals etc?

15 year ground deals- they'd be considered business decisions, yes?
 
The Chad said:
You're only new & I don't know what you're angle is etc. Take everything on face value.

weststigers is not a bad poster on here. I've spoken to him & he's a cool guy as far as I'm concerned. There are a few others on here that have started using similar styles in this 'emotive topic'.

Don't blame the posters for the way this place responds. It's been allowed to happen.

"emotive topic" is a shield to use to allow some aggression to be let out. If you can deal with the consistency of 'education' you are given on here, it's generally a good place to be.
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Thank you Chad. The more people that make excuses for me the better. 😅
 
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