HBG, Independent Directors Sacked
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Rock Hopper Steve
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Not as thorough as you Jolls but here's my ten cents worth to get the ball rolling for much needed change you go into detail with.
A good start to helping our team become a Wests Tigers singular outfit would be to abolish the old debenture system and change to a member's voted board nothing will change until this is done.
The inclusion of representatives from Balmain and Wests on a Wests Tigers board will always create friction so change the representation if W.A. insist they have a board member screen for an impartial one.
Our team is Wests Tigers so that should be who they are called right through the grades, it's just ludicrous to use the old club's names, the majority and future supporters are not interested in the old teams anymore.
A good start to helping our team become a Wests Tigers singular outfit would be to abolish the old debenture system and change to a member's voted board nothing will change until this is done.
The inclusion of representatives from Balmain and Wests on a Wests Tigers board will always create friction so change the representation if W.A. insist they have a board member screen for an impartial one.
Our team is Wests Tigers so that should be who they are called right through the grades, it's just ludicrous to use the old club's names, the majority and future supporters are not interested in the old teams anymore.
Jolls
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He was true to his word - his involvement was predicated on an independent board being in place. This was removed so he walked.
What we need to get to HBG appointing independents as part of good governance. There is a lot of work to do there.
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Then don't preach crocodile roll
Jolls
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While I tend to agree that the debenture system may be part of the problem it is a Wests Ashfield Governance Structure that needs to be changed form within. Members need to push the narrative that it is outdated, and I believe that there are discussions (possible not beneficial ones) around restructuring.
Both HBG and WT boards would be much better off recruiting membership against a skill matrix as opposed to jobs for the boys/girls that the debenture system promotes.
We need to reframe the discussion from WA/Balmain to board members with marketing expertise, financial accumen, influence at the top end of town etc. To be quite honest the most important member of WT and HBG would be somone experinced in reform - not a toe cutter - but someone that can chart the specified and implied tasks that the two boards should be preforming and from that developing distinct and nested mission statements with goals and tasks that can be measured.
Once board alignment is achieved it is just like a plumbers dream - shit flows downhill.
tigertragic
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Crap argument
He did what he said he would do
HBG with full knowledge of the outcome decided it wasn’t in for the agreed setup
Jolls
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I don't get your point - he outlined his requirements for the job - the foundation of his employment was changed and he walked. I'm sure HBG were aware of the conditions of his employment and were banking on him walking when they changed it. This is the part of the board misalignment that is causing our issues. If he stayed he would be morally corrupt. In my opinion him leaving showed moral courage - we don't see much of that around.
Sometimes, I feel really important things get missed here...
Like,
Was there a Tiger on the Shoulder / Sleeve?
And how big was it?
Wouldn't the bloke in the bar observe this as having your cake and eating it too?
Saying the players who put their body on the line need to go into a crocodile roll while a fat administrator quits the first chance he gets is you cant have your cake and eat it too.
Its a simple concept
Jolls
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I get your argument - but you can't have it both ways. If he was to stay he would be morally corrupt he chose to leave so he's not in it for the fight. It was a no win situation that I'm sure was politically motivated. They simply created the circumstances that forced him to make a decision. His decision was that he could no longer work with the HBG board based on the actions that they took. Had they stuck by their employement contract he would probably still be here. So you would stay in your job if the boss white anted you?
Jolls
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Took the dive and became a HBG member for 10 years - no voting rights for three years and only then if approved by the board. A bit of a closed shop but at least I can stop in for a feed and get $20 bucks back next time I am in Sydney.
The crocodile roll was about being in it together the actions of the board made it more than clear that they were going in a different direction - sacking four board members less than year into their appointment sends a pretty clear message.
Go_You_Good_Things
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You reckon THAT'S ironic ? !!! . . . . hold my beer.
Not long ago on these here pages, I raised the 'what if" of Balmain surviving, and Wests board blowing themselves up . . . and Wests having only a token say on everything.
I raised the point of Wests complaining about too much orange on the jersey, and too small a magpie emblem . . . as the broke partner.
Unexpected. I wonder if something happened with the owners or board to trigger his resignation?
tigertragic
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No
Yes if I'm preaching crocodile rolls on podcasts with myself. Im a man of my word
Im not defending HGB more focusing on a man's character
He publically backed the board and Julie Romero when they took forever to appoint independent directors and people were questioning their commitment to an independent board.
Made it very clear he wouldn't have accepted the position to if an independent board was not in place.
He is definitely a man of his word because when they blew it up he acted exactly how they expected him to.
Jolls
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After a bit of digging while I won't have voting rights for three years I can submit questions to the board and as Wests Tigers Members we can also make submissions to and ask wquestions of the WestsTigers Board.
HBG rules:
HBG rules:
- Financial Questions Procedure: Members are requested to advise the General Manager in writing at least fourteen (14) days prior to the date of the AGM regarding any query about financial statements or accounts.
- General Communication: While the Board manages the Club and holds confidential investigations (such as those regarding director conduct), they also provide information to members via direct correspondence, such as CEO updates or statements regarding governance.
- Member Rights: The Constitution and By-Laws outline the specific rights and procedures for members, including how to interact with the board. For non-financial questions, it is standard practice to contact the Club's management or submit written correspondence for the attention of the Board.
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