Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Tom Shines said:
It’s one of the world’s great mysteries …how all the teams spend the same amount of money but you end up with such a variance in playing talent .,,we are supposedly broke but the Rabbits can bid for everyone ..

As I’ve said before …make the player payments public … the US sports seem to manage it..
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The Player's Association would take the NRL straight to court and would win if they tried to make players salaries public.

The US has a history of treating athletes like indentured servants and until recently colleges making billions off unpaid athletes. Very different culture.
 
Camel2281 said:
The Player's Association would take the NRL straight to court and would win if they tried to make players salaries public.

The US has a history of treating athletes like indentured servants and until recently colleges making billions off unpaid athletes. Very different culture.
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The NRL can force them to comply to be welcome to the next league license renewal.
 
Camel2281 said:
The Player's Association would take the NRL straight to court and would win if they tried to make players salaries public.

The US has a history of treating athletes like indentured servants and until recently colleges making billions off unpaid athletes. Very different culture.
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Indentured servants earning millions …where do I sign up ?

No one is forcing anybody to play NRL …they could always get a nine to five job instead like the rest of us

Maybe you have an argument with College sports,,,,( previously …they get paid now), but Professional Sports are primarily about the fans … they don’t exist otherwise ., and the lack of transparency is a joke in my view
 
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Canadian Club said:
That was the point I was trying to make, with the new TV deal and new teams. Probably could have explained it better. 2023 wasnt meant to be a specific example or percentage, more the mindset that was around what figures meant back then and even the 3-5 years prior (2020 or 2021 would have been a better example). For example, Melbourne had 3 players on 1mil+ back in the mid 2010s.

For context, Cap in the following years:

2012: $4.4 million (Melbourne Storm Era)
2019: $9.6 million (Start of Penrith Era)
2026: $12 million (approx) (Current)
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And for unnecessary context, Melbourne Storm were $1M over a $4M salary cap, the dirty cheats.
 
Modman said:
What where are you getting that from. We are still paying most of his wages.
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Rabbitohs extend contract of Jayden Sullivan for Seasons 2026 and 2027 – South Sydney Rabbitohs

The South Sydney Rabbitohs are delighted to announce the contract extension of half Jayden ‘Bud’ Sullivan for the 2026 and 2027 seasons today.
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Sullivan, 24, joined the Rabbitohs in 2025 on a one-year deal, however his performances throughout the season have earned him a two-year contract extension with the Club following a release from the remainder of his contract with the Wests Tigers.
 
Canadian Club said:
I think the issue is that people really don't understand what the Cap is these days and just how much salaries have changed so quickly in the last 5 years. Ive spoken to someone at another club about this a few times and how its structured by teams over a 1-5 year period.

Gone are the days where a team could afford maybe one or two 1mil+ players. Most teams also structure their cap very differently these days. Teams either take a top heavy approach with 5 or 6 players on 900k+ (like Souths or Manly) or more balanced with most of the roster on 600-800k (like us, Sharks or Dogs). How teams do it is just based on their personnel, luck with gun juniors and ability to recruit the best of the best.

Most agents and players are now are pushing for contracts based on a % of the cap rather than a specific number like (800k one year and 850k the next) because of the massive jump in the cap lately and the extra 24million coming into the market from expansion teams, creating more demand and higher prices. Thats why its so beneficial to sign players like Twal etc on 3-4 year extensions with the same salary each year now, because his 450k in 2026 is 3.75-4% of the total cap, but in 2030 his 450k will probably only be a 2.75-3% cap hit. It saves money and cap room in the long run. Especially with contracts in that lower to mid tier range, because they're easier to flip to other teams or super league if the player stops performing.

I find that most the comments on here when a player signs for say 800k are along the lines of "hes not worth 800K! hes worth 650k max". However the 800k is essentially the same amount (%) on the cap as 650k was in 2023. People just simply don't understand the cap and how much the dollar amounts are worth as a percentage on the cap.
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To a certain extent you are right, particularly about negotiating percentages.
However the growth on the cap isn't anywhere near enough to align with the final paragraph. 650k is about 5.89% of the 23 cap. 5.89% of the 26 cap is about 680k. Additionally the min wage increase is somewhat tied to cap increase as well. So in some respects this arguably limits the growth of available cap funds.
Finally the cap beyond 27 isn't finalised. Whilst there is estimated growth numbers to work with we don't yet know what that increase will be.
* I just realised I just did base caps for percentages not considering the additional funds available but I'm sure it wouldn't change significantly but can't be arsed doing the maths right now.
 
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