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#4 would be at the threat of taking back the licence. Force the governance changes that way. I don't think people actually want HBG to lose ownership, they just want the debenture system democratised so that there is accountability to members or optimally, to revert to the report recommendations.

Canada Bay council funded a large part of the COE (i think $30m). So that can't be shifted. The question is more, why doesn't cambo council do the same? I believe the council there has been a large part of the problem why we haven't shifted more. But also, it needs to be financially viable and...

They better only provide a short-list, benji ultimately has to chose. Luckily he's got more intelligence than all of them.

They're just in it for the power, blazers and box seats. Will not do the right thing.

He handled it really well. I have to say, Benji is becoming elite at crisis management. He'd have a space there in the future if coaching doesn't pan out.

Therein lies the problem. We need a board with credentials, experience, and an attitude to contribute to our team. One that doesn't shy away from responsibility and owning our strategic direction and culture. We simply have a mob at the moment that is keen to pick up their blazers, get in on...

It's not private ownership. It's a non-profit. You think blokes like Dennis actually own the club? That's why people are up in arms when they act in their own self-interest. Directors aren't owners - they are supposed to act on behalf of members and be voted in by members. Neither of these are...

Private ownership isn't the answer. Unless we can get a Ryan Reynolds type given his success at Wrexham - Maybe can entice him with matchups against Hugh's SeaEagles. But that would be a pipe dream. In reality, reform is the answer... If only there was a report that recommended an ideal...

Moses sounds like an absolute petulant child. It's obvious he has it in for the club, which has only increased with Benji at the helm. No idea how the players keep signing with him.

It's amazing when you look back at our dramas and realise how many were managed by Issac... Galvin, Teddy, Moses, Woods, Bateman, Klemmer... now Doueihi

I'm sorry man, but we don't need directors staying out of footy operations and taking no responsibility. Their job should be driving the club forward. We need capable, connected, talented and experienced people that will help us get better, not deadset empty seats. Especially with how little...

I'd just add one thing mate. Our club needs a strong board helping with the football operations. Our football club management has very little experience. If we are going to be thin on that level, then we need some experienced heads on the board who are willing to roll up their sleeves in their...

They don't though mate. Even the two blokes who were accountable to members got removed by the debenture holders. That's how bad this HBG organisational structure is. NSW L&G is such a lazy body to not to create laws to restrict corruptible setups like this.

I get what you're saying, but it looks like a deliberate way to stir up the whole Wests Magpies vs Balmain argument mate. Doesn't help.

Lets not do the whole Wests things man. It's HBG. They have several clubs, including the Tigers at Sydney Markets and will own the future one at Rozelle. This is not a Wests thing and only will spark the wrong kind of debate.

One constant over 15 years man... It's trying to draw the map for how the top-down impacts, so everyone may think more broadly. With Adam, I just see a toxic cultural issue with them, the dumb decision on Richo and the lack of experienced staffing around benji, yet we always look in the...

They wouldn't care. Its other peoples money theyre spending.

THEY insulted his credentials? These guys really need a mirror.

It's not changing the owner entity, it's better and accountable directors. HBG can own it, but we need better on the board, like the review recommended. You want to improve the roster? How about we have people as connected as Nick polities there for life after footy. Or how about we have...

Or maybe the players simply aren't reaching potential because our culture from the top. We've had 15 years of changing coaches and players. How about we try something different? One that had us on the right trajectory just 12 months ago...