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I'm not a kiwi or a Wah, nowhere near it mate.:D

I Agree and you've raised some very important considerations not only about the junior pathways system but also the NRL's funding of them or the lack thereof. I believe if we were to only address the fixing of the underfunding in the NZ talent hubs, the solutions there should also automatically...

Hi mate, Sorry for that, I've used them interchangeably, having the same meaning triggers/arguments. To give us a better understanding of our discussion here, i think it will be well worth reviewing the case of Jack de Belin. Belin took legal action against ARLC/NRL to overturn his standdown...

Under the ARLC's legal considerations and implications, believe it or not, i think that the ARLC is very much capable of intervening and force a governance change. The real question is, why haven't they yet? Under the constitution of the ARLC and the club licence agreement, the commission holds...

Sorry innsaneink, converted from to what?

All evidences past and present suggests that the situation the WT are in is unique and still very messy. And why do I care so much about discussing this unique and messy matter? It is only because i truly care about the WT and it is only because i see this governance model as the only restraint...

Hi mate, this is not the same Greek who sent that Sisyphus to punishment and what a bloody punishment that was. But now with this new combined might of Greek deities of PVL/Politis which hasn't been seen since that alliance of Zeus and Poseidon and their example of their power of when they...

Yes, you are correct mate, the original heritage deed does expire in 2030, however it does not mean that HBG can just change the WT identity just that simply if they wanted to. There are protections to prevent a change of identity. The WT name and brand are registered trademarks of the ARLC, so...

There is no fixed expiration date. It's a NRL perpetual licence that is held by HBG. As long as the NRL's licence terms and conditions are met HBG hold that licence indefinitely.

All evidences suggests to me that PVL has the mindset of a type of an autocrat. Most notable are. 1. The proposed multi-billion-dollar sale of the Rosehill racecourse and it's governance. Harsh criticisms were made about this during a NSW parliamentary enquiry which then led to pushbacks by...

Just to be clear, I am not criticising or disrespecting the HBG debenture holders, and I'm certain that most of them would be decent human beings. What i am only criticising and disrespecting is only this old autonomous type of governance which has been hampering the progress of our beloved WT...

I'm hoping that the selection committee will use due diligence and I'm sure that Benji will have a person who he is well acquainted with already.

Yes, NRL interventions have been for different reasons and purposes but they are interventions. We want the NRL to intervene to fix and replace an outmoded dumb governance system that no other NRL club has or would ever want. Do you want the NRL to intervene?

Yes crookedness bloody galore, crookedness as in meaning this ancient outmoded governance structure of the HBG group. As mentioned before. This debenture system power loop of 20 debenture holders effectively gives the group unchallengeable powers over the WT free from accountability, Because...

Tools used or not, the points are valid. Address the argument, not the formatting. Your happily and funnily admitting here that you yourself used AI, Looks like you're a prolific user of AI too Demps, but the use of ai should be a right and not a privilege of a few like you. However, The facts...

Let's be honest here Demps, what exactly are you suggesting here? Is it that the Forums terms and rules don't allow AI usage for posts?

I'm suggesting both, and why did they not sell them off? It's because they don't have this dumb debenture system structure like we do.

Not completely true mate. The NRL has stepped in to take control of several clubs experiencing governance failures. We can also add. Melbourne Storm (2010) The Intervention: The NRL installed interim administrator Ron Gauci to overhaul governance. Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs (2002–2004)...

You are absolutely correct, the NRL is not the NRL, the NRL is PVL.

Why? While other traditional clubs are linked to licensed Leagues Clubs or operate under member-owned models, the specific debenture structure governing Holman Barnes Group (HBG) the majority owner of Wests Tigers is unique in the NRL and professional Australian sport. Why it doesn't work and...