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I like the Mann signing, you know you will get 100%, unlike a Bird type of player. Not just on the field but very importantly off it, he's apparantly a great trainer which is important for our team.

Yeah fair enough, a line drawn in the sand and he stepped over it. However, I would imagine AD might be shown some forgiveness for his poor choice because of his seasons of hard training, the way he has come back from a number of injuries and his day in day out professionalism. And if the...

Just a few things. Do you know the whole story? Are the Tigers in the position to let someone of AD's footballing ability go, whatever the position? And, if he plays well next year, would you be okay with him staying then?

Yes, you're right, when using the term resources, I mean more then just money, it relates to the people, time, structures, management approaches and so on. Hopefully the Tigers have learnt from past mistakes, they've had their fair share.

As long as its done fairly, what you're talking about could mean that other richer clubs may have easier or more access to the wider talent pool thats developed by the Tigers, Parra, Penrith Dragons, Knights etc not Perth, Roosters, Manly, Melbourne, PNG. I reckon if you can't produce your own...

I agree, this is one area were we are stronger than most clubs, our pathway system should be treated like gold, it's so obvious, so you'd have to think that, not only the football club but even HBG are willing to poor more resources towards this :)....well considering past history, maybe not...

Yeah fair enough, I suppose it's depends on what the NRL consider extraordinary triggers and it would have to proven if was clearly the fault of HBG. Did you make them up or they specific triggers? For example, 'Endless bottom 4 finishes' Is this fairdinkum? I think the NRL's main concern is...

Our CEO has more chance of changing things than..............what do you propose? You say 'those lengths to appease HBG', maybe he was simply indicating that Wests Magpies play a role in the development of our pathways, it was simply a comment on the forum, not gospel. And also, 'those lengths...

Mate, I totally agree but what would it take for the NRL to stick their nose into how a club runs its own operations? It would be when HBG has the inability to pay the football club the required money. However, they aren't doing that, they seem to be fulfilling their obligations, so the NRL...

I agree, if HBG started to fail in the area of running a football club, the NRL wouldn't help, its more than likely the Wests Tigers would be gone for another licence. Anyway, why in the world would the NRL waste their time getting involved, when there is no evidence of any wrong doing at the...

Maybe, imagine if its Dearden, now that would be amazing

I find that really hard to understand, if true. AD might be leaving but still, we have enough potential to have a decent halves pairing. The only other thing is, he might be a gun.

He's a flog This is good in a way, it gives strength to the thinking he was the main reason for the Tigers collapse.

Yes, the 'spitting the dummy' episode was very poor and not good for team 'culture' However, could he contribute to the posititve culture in other ways, for example, I've heard he is a very hard trainer and meticulous with his preparation, not just fitiness but skills training and his approach...

Hope not, no doubt he can play but thats just going backwards, we already have a mix of youth & experience already with our halves.

Yeah this is the clubs best chance of success, we need to keep our most talented juniors. It's one area where we have it over other clubs, so lets make it work.

Yes, pressure needs to come from within as well as outside So apart from fan 'pressure' I think the footballs club best bet is for the new CEO, Barry and Macarthur to work with HBG to form a better relationship, in turn HBG will be more willing to chuck in more coin and work towards an...

I think if the NRL would not be concerned about how our club is run, as long as we can pay our way, they're happy. If they did have to step in, they would be more than likely to get rid of another Sydney club for another Brisbane club, so I certainly don't want them sticking their nose in our...

Yeah, I was just asking the question about where he could play 13 in defence. I see clearly you don't think he should be afforded any 'leway' even when considering he was our best player before he was injured? And arguably one of the competitions best players? Or are you judging him on the...

Could he play four in for defence? Maybe at a pinch?