3rd man-Thaiday Origin no-try Precedent. Right or wrong?

[Twodogs]

On the Sunday Roast this afternoon they were debating the merits (or otherwise) of the no-try ruling in Origin 3, as other tries are now being referred to the video ref as a result.

Gus, MG, Vossy and the other guy (there for unintended comic relief) agreed that the Thaiday incident should have been a try.

The problem I see is that if the Sunday Roast guys have it their way, coaches everywhere will be instructing their players to push defenders off attackers to ensure attackers held up can get the ball down for tries. This is a dangerous precedent and will get out of control very quickly. NFL here we come!

If players on the attacking side without the ball can't interfere with defenders, then how can the Thaiday incident possibly be legal? Even if he only pushes his own player forward, wouldn't that result in a double movement considering the tackle had been effected?

On a side note, where's big Mal applauding Blues greats for going into bat for QLD? And incorrectly at that!! :unamused:

 

[stryker]

I had no problem with that try seeing as it happens all the time.

The one last night was a more extreme case that deserved a penalty.

 

[Marshall_magic]

The rule as I understand it is if the attacking players teammate pushes a defender it's a penalty, if he only touches the ball carrier it's okay. If you let players push defenders in tackles, they'll push them right off the tackle.

 

[senexx]

Wrong on both counts. The tackle was completed. It's a penalty no matter who Thaiday pushes to get his player across the line.

Just like the cannonball tackle as they're calling it is not an illegal tackle. The issue is the referee not calling HELD!

It is all about penalising the players for the referees' mistakes.

 

[happy_tiger]

Whenever Qld is denied a try it is wrong . You all know it . I don't have a problem as long as no defenders are impeded . If he called held under the new defensive rules it should of put back on the mark and play continued

 

[underdog]

well shouldn't Corey Patersons first try against the tigers be disallowed then? Fai Fai Loa got involved with Beau Ryan as he tried to keep Paterson from grounding the ball… If we go by this precedent, it should have been looked at.

 

[WestsSupporter]

My view is that so long as you don't touch the tackler or impede him it is fine.

 

[sricko]

I think that sort of play is too much like rugby union. Once your player has their momentum stopped the ref should b calling held. Your team mates shouldnt be able to come in and help you out. I think the same with the getting out of ur own ingoal area and going over the sideline… Refs need to be calling held earlier!
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[happy_tiger]

I think that sort of play is too much like rugby union. Once your player has their momentum stopped the ref should b calling held. Your team mates shouldnt be able to come in and help you out. I think the same with the getting out of ur own ingoal area and going over the sideline… Refs need to be calling held earlier!
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Disagree Sricko with the stopping a players momentum . Held needs to be called earlier you are right there but only in non dominate tackles . Should be more rewards for tackling around the legs . It is one thing our game has got wrong . Some of the tackles I remember best are the cover defending tackles around the legs . Scott Sattler on Todd Byrne . Nowadays if Byrne had not of gone over the sideline Sattler would of been pinged for holding the man down

 

[BrissieTiger67]

i dont see what the roast guys were talking about, you can't impeded a defender. The thaiday try was correctly dissallowed. Its fine if you push your own players as much as you want but you can't touch a defender unless you have the ball.

i realise that we have seen alot of tries where another player comes in to assist but i havent had a problem with the ones i have seen. imo.

keep doing what ur doing refs good year so far imo

 

[Yossarian]

I was happy to see it called no try. I don't like players coming in to push team-mates over the line. Fair enough to support them being pushed back but it's not union. How far do you take it? Could you bring back the flying wedge or some variation? They should have disallowed the try they gave the BOTD decision for.

 

[Twodogs]

Good replies. So you all agree - Gus and MG are wrong?

 

[stryker]

No I dont agree…he wasnt held.