4 to 7 players facing the axe

@LaT said:
@tigerbenji said:
People say let Lawrence go, still has 3yrs left on his contract. Let Moltzen go, Just signed for 3 yrs. Let Marshall go, 2 yrs left on his contract. Let Blair go still has 2 yrs left after this year, Who do we replace them with & how much of their contracts do we pay?.

Reality doesn't really enter into the discussion when it comes to most of this forum.

i think it should be this
Reality doesn't really enter into the discussion when it comes to wests tigers management.
the above scenario is what we already do.
they even took it to a new level by signing players and then the next week releasing them.or letting a player look else where,come to an agreement with a rival,blow up when they announce they have signed him,and then turn around and get him to break his agreement.

:wtf is reality
 
In my opinion I can't see the Tigers getting rid of Blair or Marshall it would simply cost the club too much money to do that. I think the players to go maybe Tiquiri,Utai,Lawrence,Galloway,Bell, 😛ray:
 
Paying out on people for not being realistic?

Why is it not realistic?

SBW had a 5 year deal with bulldogs and didnt even last 2.

This thread is titled - Players facing the axe but have you guys thought that maybe some of these players want out and it is a mutual decision.

The reality is that anything is possible.
 
@tig_prmz said:
also, apart from blair signing- letting go of gibbs must be one of the worst decision by the club.

As far as I know, Gibbs wasn't let go because of his talents. Not sure what he did or what happened but he was let go off and the Daily Telegraph says he us still on the payroll.
 
800k, one off payment and I am sure I can find a way to make them all disapear thus making their contracts null and void
 
@tigsta said:
Paying out on people for not being realistic?

Why is it not realistic?

SBW had a 5 year deal with bulldogs and didnt even last 2.

This thread is titled - Players facing the axe but have you guys thought that maybe some of these players want out and it is a mutual decision.

The reality is that anything is possible.

It does seem a little unrealistic to expect that we can just "let go" these players. Some other team will snap them up for bugger all and they'll still be under our cap. I can't see any of the players with healthy contracts forgoing good money.
 
@Allan Towle said:
@tig_prmz said:
also, apart from blair signing- letting go of gibbs must be one of the worst decision by the club.

As far as I know, Gibbs wasn't let go because of his talents. Not sure what he did or what happened but he was let go off and the Daily Telegraph says he us still on the payroll.

from what i heard he got a lil hot headed with sheens. there was a rumor a tigers player almost came to blows with sheens. later that year fifita and gibbs were gone.

a few ppl i used to work used to speak to a couple of the wests boys and reckon its true. i myself dont really believe that but you never know. cant have players smashing coaches although the vision of gibbs wacking sheens would be one for the highlight reels. lol
 
@izotope said:
@LaT said:
@tigerbenji said:
People say let Lawrence go, still has 3yrs left on his contract. Let Moltzen go, Just signed for 3 yrs. Let Marshall go, 2 yrs left on his contract. Let Blair go still has 2 yrs left after this year, Who do we replace them with & how much of their contracts do we pay?.

Reality doesn't really enter into the discussion when it comes to most of this forum.

are you sure?
Why would souths not want a direct swap with blair for GI im confused? :crazy

lol i wish.
 
@fixxhalo said:
@Allan Towle said:
@tig_prmz said:
also, apart from blair signing- letting go of gibbs must be one of the worst decision by the club.

As far as I know, Gibbs wasn't let go because of his talents. Not sure what he did or what happened but he was let go off and the Daily Telegraph says he us still on the payroll.

from what i heard he got a lil hot headed with sheens. there was a rumor a tigers player almost came to blows with sheens. later that year fifita and gibbs were gone.

a few ppl i used to work used to speak to a couple of the wests boys and reckon its true. i myself dont really believe that but you never know. cant have players smashing coaches although the vision of gibbs wacking sheens would be one for the highlight reels. lol

That would certainly see a player from the club.
Fafita would be nice to have but clearly the Sharks have an environment that works better for me.
 
@Allan Towle said:
@tig_prmz said:
also, apart from blair signing- letting go of gibbs must be one of the worst decision by the club.

As far as I know, Gibbs wasn't let go because of his talents. Not sure what he did or what happened but he was let go off and the Daily Telegraph says he us still on the payroll.

Yep. If what I know is true - which it is given the source - the club made the right decision. If only such decisions had been made consistently over the years, we would not be in the position we are.

For those still raising Gibbs, note that he has come out and said that the club was right to let him go.

Even if that wasnt the reason, Gibbs has played so few games for the Sharks, I find it hard to question the decision to let him go.
 
@southerntiger said:
@Allan Towle said:
@tig_prmz said:
also, apart from blair signing- letting go of gibbs must be one of the worst decision by the club.

As far as I know, Gibbs wasn't let go because of his talents. Not sure what he did or what happened but he was let go off and the Daily Telegraph says he us still on the payroll.

Yep. If what I know is true - which it is given the source - the club made the right decision. If only such decisions had been made consistently over the years, we would not be in the position we are.

For those still raising Gibbs, note that he has come out and said that the club was right to let him go.

Even if that wasnt the reason, Gibbs has played so few games for the Sharks, I find it hard to question the decision to let him go.

Well maybe. I get the idea that Bryce is very reluctant to criticise the club and doesn't want to have a bad relationship with the Wests Tigers (whether its because of the players or his heart is still here I don't know).

I have read Gibbs' comments about him being moved on. He also said it wasn't a hanging offence or something like that. I get the impression that if the club wanted to retain him the incident would not have been enough to force them to cut him. It seems more like a pretext to make a change in their roster.

From an on-field POV I don't think it was a massive loss despite his defensive abilities. I do think though it has been a major loss off the field. The club seemed to lose its mojo when he left and Blair came in. I don't necessarily fault the decision - it made sense at the time in terms of moving our pack to the next level - but its gone pear-shaped.

What looks good on paper often doesn't pan out well in practice.
 
Mate I base my comments on what I know, not on what Gibbs has said, although that supports what I know.

The final incident, as I understand it, was not a hanging offence in itself. It was more to do with a failure to remedy certain behaviour and, as I understand it, the Tigers saw a need for a culture change within their playing ranks.

Gibbs' reaction when told he was to be let go didnt help his cause.
 
so will this 4 players be moved on before June 30 deadline, or do we have to wait until the end of this season.
 
@southerntiger said:
Mate I base my comments on what I know, not on what Gibbs has said, although that supports what I know.

The final incident, as I understand it, was not a hanging offence in itself. It was more to do with a failure to remedy certain behaviour and, as I understand it, the Tigers saw a need for a culture change within their playing ranks.

Gibbs' reaction when told he was to be let go didnt help his cause.

Well I don't know what you know or don't know… All I'm saying is that the alleged incident or incidents seem to get raised as a bit of an excuse to justify the decision. He survived the racecourse incident. I understand what you're saying re the culture at the WT and as I said it made sense at the time but it seems to have been at the expence of the spirit at the club. There seems to be precious little team ethos at the moment...
 
@Yossarian said:
@southerntiger said:
Mate I base my comments on what I know, not on what Gibbs has said, although that supports what I know.

The final incident, as I understand it, was not a hanging offence in itself. It was more to do with a failure to remedy certain behaviour and, as I understand it, the Tigers saw a need for a culture change within their playing ranks.

Gibbs' reaction when told he was to be let go didnt help his cause.

Well I don't know what you know or don't know… All I'm saying is that the alleged incident or incidents seem to get raised as a bit of an excuse to justify the decision. He survived the racecourse incident. I understand what you're saying re the culture at the WT and as I said it made sense at the time but it seems to have been at the expence of the spirit at the club. There seems to be precious little team ethos at the moment...

Yoss, wasnt having a go. My sentence was a bit badly worded, just explaining I wasnt simply relying on Gibbs' own admissions.
 
@southerntiger said:
@Yossarian said:
@southerntiger said:
Mate I base my comments on what I know, not on what Gibbs has said, although that supports what I know.

The final incident, as I understand it, was not a hanging offence in itself. It was more to do with a failure to remedy certain behaviour and, as I understand it, the Tigers saw a need for a culture change within their playing ranks.

Gibbs' reaction when told he was to be let go didnt help his cause.

Well I don't know what you know or don't know… All I'm saying is that the alleged incident or incidents seem to get raised as a bit of an excuse to justify the decision. He survived the racecourse incident. I understand what you're saying re the culture at the WT and as I said it made sense at the time but it seems to have been at the expence of the spirit at the club. There seems to be precious little team ethos at the moment...

Yoss, wasnt having a go. My sentence was a bit badly worded, just explaining I wasnt simply relying on Gibbs' own admissions.

No worries mate. Understood
 
@tigerbenji said:
People say let Lawrence go, still has 3yrs left on his contract. Let Moltzen go, Just signed for 3 yrs. Let Marshall go, 2 yrs left on his contract. Let Blair go still has 2 yrs left after this year, Who do we replace them with & how much of their contracts do we pay?.

We can't let them go. We just have to accept it. If someone offers to buy them out then we can let them go but otherwise we are stuck with them.

As fans we need to suck it up. The coaching staff need to choose the best players that they can and then sook about it to the board or the CEO if they don't have the cattle to perform.
 
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