5 Year Plan

[TigerTownSFS]

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/queenslands-shock-call-to-relocate-sydney-nrl-club-to-brisbane/news-story/c8c66466f185e2644a2b6dbb5cf0c3c1

Interesting suggestion. I’m guessing press will start point at West’s Tigers given we are the nomads.

Also one of the expansion bids is East Brisbane Tigers so…..

 

[WT2K]

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/queenslands-shock-call-to-relocate-sydney-nrl-club-to-brisbane/news-story/c8c66466f185e2644a2b6dbb5cf0c3c1

Interesting suggestion. I’m guessing press will start point at West’s Tigers given we are the nomads.

Also one of the expansion bids is East Brisbane Tigers so…..

was the Sharks mentioned by qrl

 

[TigerTownSFS]

Queensland’s shock call to ‘relocate’ Sydney NRL club to Brisbane attracts anger

Queensland calls it a “strategic alliance” rather than “relocation”, but there’s no mistaking it involves moving an established Sydney NRL club north and it hasn’t gone down well.
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Queensland Rugby League chairman Bruce Hatcher has infuriated Cronulla after doubling down on his call for the Sharks to be a potential NRL club that could be relocated to Brisbane instead of establishing a brand new franchise in 2023.

Sharks chief executive Dino Mezzatesta labelled it “disgusting” to pin the target on his club that has now surpassed Parramatta with the second most juniors behind only Penrith, although he did concede the idea had merit because “there is probably one too many Sydney clubs”.

The long-time Maroons boss was adamant “I am not trying to be controversial”.


But Hatcher used this year’s State of Origin debacle to again highlight why the depth of playing talent is not ready to support 17 teams at this point.

This comes as the Australian Rugby League Commissioners were on Monday forced to abandon formal presentations by the three expansion bid groups — the Firehawks, Jets and Dolphins — due to the developing Covid situation.

Hatcher preferred to use the phrase “strategic alliance” rather than “relocation” when quizzed on his thoughts.

But there was certainly no mistaking exactly what he was suggesting — moving an established Sydney club north of the border to play out of Suncorp Stadium.

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QRL chairman Bruce Hatcher thinks Cronulla should be relocated to Brisbane. Picture: QRL/Jorja Brinums
QRL chairman Bruce Hatcher thinks Cronulla should be relocated to Brisbane. Picture: QRL/Jorja Brinums
While it’s not the first time he’s argued against expansion (the Sharks pointed out he did the same thing last September), Hatcher had some fresh ammunition in the wake of Sunday night’s Origin shame that secured NSW’s third series victory in four years.



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Queensland has been absolutely lapped in the first two games to the tune of 76-6.

Not that the lopsided scoreboard has surprised too many fans given a complete difference in the class and experience of the teams, with the Maroons recent era of dominance now feeling like a distant memory.

Hatcher said while he was preparing to read the 197-odd page GEMBA report that looked into the viability of NRL expansion, he was pretty sure what the next step needed to be.

“To me, how can we (Queensland) be competitive?” he questioned.

“In our halcyon days we had 10-odd players from the Broncos to pick in the Origin side.

“We have one this year (Xavier Coates).

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“You don’t have to look too far to see that we have to address issues.”

But Hatcher is also adamant it is a must to have a game played at Suncorp every week, which is what the TV networks also want.

He is also concerned an extra NRL club would potentially come at the expense of future grassroots funding, further stunting player development.

“I will tell you precisely what I think should happen,” Hatcher said.

“I would take a Sydney club and do a strategic alliance with one of those three bidders.

“I would relocate the side up here and at the end of three years I would assess the financial viability of how that has worked, and if it doesn’t work I would allow the Sydney based club to go back to its roots if it really wanted to do that.

“But I think straddling two markets is absolutely vital.

“Most vital is that we have an NRL quality game in Brisbane every weekend.”

The QRL chairman says the Sharks should be relocated to Brisbane. Picture: NRL Imagery
The QRL chairman says the Sharks should be relocated to Brisbane. Picture: NRL Imagery
He said he was not against expansion but now was not the right time.

“I think we need to use the three years with projects like we have (the QRL) to develop more talent,” Hatcher continued.

“I think our sub elite competition (the Intrust Super Cup), we have to identify more players out of there that we can get to the NRL level quicker.”

Hatcher was reluctant to name which club he believed would be best suited for the move but when pushed on it, he laughed: “Do you want me to get my head lopped off further?

“I think I will bring Cronulla up here.


“Look, honestly, it is none of my business (which team is relocated).

“I am just saying it is a business model that will work and they straddle two markets and they get to play games in Sydney and they play games up here.

“You have got to have a game at Suncorp every weekend.

“I just think it is the interim step that needs to be considered.”

But to suggest the Sharks were not impressed is a massive understatement.

“This is the second time this guy has done this and the first time I wrote to him in absolute disgust and he rang me and apologised,” Mezzatesta said.

The controversial suggestion will infuriate Sharks fans.
The controversial suggestion will infuriate Sharks fans.
“It is absolutely disgusting. Seriously, what is wrong with this bloke?”

Although he did concede having nine Sydney teams was an issue.

“He has got a good point, there is probably one too many Sydney clubs, or maybe two too many Sydney clubs,” Mezzatesta added.

“He has got a great point.

“But what gives him the right to select which club it should be?

“Has he got information we don’t know about?

“We are one of the strongest clubs financially at the moment going around.

“Not only that, everyone keeps thinking Cronulla is this little shire town.

“We have just surpassed Parramatta for participation in junior rugby league and we are only second to the Panthers.

“And you want to relocate us? We are a true pathways club. We have our own academy. Not many clubs can boast this.

“We have the largest catchment as far as Oztag and touch go, and they just throw away these comments.

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“It is just disgusting.

“Do some homework before you do anything, Bruce.”

 

[gallagher]

Does oztag and touch get included in junior numbers?

 

[cochise]

Does oztag and touch get included in junior numbers?

Oztag wouldn't but touch probably does.

 

[gallagher]

Does oztag and touch get included in junior numbers?

Oztag wouldn't but touch probably does.

I was wondering how they outgrew Parra.

 

[BZN]

There is no leader in the front office, only “titles” that are bestowed on people. Doesn’t matter if you have a 6 month plan or a 30 year plan, somebody has to lead the way, much like on the field. Until that happens this place will continue to be the laughing stock of the NRL and every fan that doesn’t support WT.


So everyone at the club just has a title and a salary but they don't do anything ? I assume they have plans but because no is leading them no one does anything. Is that correct ?

**It all sounds like a great little comedy show or something.**

After what i saw on Saturday night, i wouldn't say it sounds like anything, more that it is.

Interesting. I assume that if you were CEO or captain then we'd finally have leadership and we'd win the comp.

I can't wait until that happens. It's going to be a good day.

Well with comments like this made in 2015:

Pascoe is keen to improve the club's relationship with the community, but admits there is a strong possibility the club will move to secure its financial viability by establishing one home base in 2017 and beyond.

"I'll obviously go through the process of doing the full review of our agreements," Pascoe said.

"I'll be keen to go meet all those councils and get an understanding of where our members actually reside.

"Whether we play games at Campbelltown or Leichhardt or not, the main emphasis will be to maintain or increase our engagement with our fans out there and really invest in the communities out there.

"I don't think there has been a community strategy in place for the last couple of years and that's something I'm keen to implement.

**"But one thing I will say unequivocally is that there needs to be one defined home to complement the one defined brand of the Wests Tigers."**


Six years later and still in exactly the same position. I probably wouldn't have much to live up to going by that. Maybe i could get myself suspended for 6 months for cheating the cap and put the club in a worse predicament of 320k salary cap penalty per annum for a couple of years.


Awesome,,,,,,


So he achieve financial stability, record membership numbers, the CoE, sets up new pathways including the appointment of Sheens, Kimmorly and Hartigan.....

but you dig up a quote from 6 years ago and we are supposed to hang him on that?

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[BZN]

Another 5 yr plan ...I really do not know how you all can swallow all this rubbish ..there is an inherent issue WITHIN this club ..Coaches have come and gone as with players but the mediocrity remains regardless of the personnel changes at football level , what is the real issue then ..maybe there should be a plan to look at this level of the organisation !
**Maybe a plan for One Home ground might be nice instead of 6 home grounds might this mind set be the inherent problem .**

Exactly my thoughts. It's not the actual ground itself, it's the fact that after 21 years, there hasn't been any leadership to solve the problem. It has always been in the too hard basket, much like our footy team when it comes to fronting up on game day.

What if, its not in the "too hard basket". What if the current arrangement actually benefits the club?

There is no leader in the front office, only "titles" that are bestowed on people. Doesn't matter if you have a 6 month plan or a 30 year plan, somebody has to lead the way, much like on the field. Until that happens this place will continue to be the laughing stock of the NRL and every fan that doesn't support WT.

Based on?

[/QUOTE]

Pity there isn't a lot more positive posters on here.
The negative Nellie's need to have a look at all the positive changes that have taken place over the past little while instead of looking for ways to criticize Our Club.

 

[BZN]

There is no leader in the front office, only “titles” that are bestowed on people. Doesn’t matter if you have a 6 month plan or a 30 year plan, somebody has to lead the way, much like on the field. Until that happens this place will continue to be the laughing stock of the NRL and every fan that doesn’t support WT.


So everyone at the club just has a title and a salary but they don't do anything ? I assume they have plans but because no is leading them no one does anything. Is that correct ?

**It all sounds like a great little comedy show or something.**

After what i saw on Saturday night, i wouldn't say it sounds like anything, more that it is.

Interesting. I assume that if you were CEO or captain then we'd finally have leadership and we'd win the comp.

I can't wait until that happens. It's going to be a good day.

Well with comments like this made in 2015:

Pascoe is keen to improve the club's relationship with the community, but admits there is a strong possibility the club will move to secure its financial viability by establishing one home base in 2017 and beyond.

"I'll obviously go through the process of doing the full review of our agreements," Pascoe said.

"I'll be keen to go meet all those councils and get an understanding of where our members actually reside.

"Whether we play games at Campbelltown or Leichhardt or not, the main emphasis will be to maintain or increase our engagement with our fans out there and really invest in the communities out there.

"I don't think there has been a community strategy in place for the last couple of years and that's something I'm keen to implement.

**"But one thing I will say unequivocally is that there needs to be one defined home to complement the one defined brand of the Wests Tigers."**


Six years later and still in exactly the same position. I probably wouldn't have much to live up to going by that. Maybe i could get myself suspended for 6 months for cheating the cap and put the club in a worse predicament of 320k salary cap penalty per annum for a couple of years.


Awesome,,,,,,


So he achieve financial stability, record membership numbers, the CoE, sets up new pathways including the appointment of Sheens, Kimmorly and Hartigan.....

but you dig up a quote from 6 years ago and we are supposed to hang him on that?

Guess we can't hang him on the results of those seasons either .........#protectedspecies


If they sacked the CEO three years ago, and in the mean time the new guy had a nice hair cut, appointed Madge, turned around our finances, achieved record membership, created the CoE, appointed Sheens, Hartigan & kimmorley, there would be a statue of him on Parramatta Road.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[Demps]

There is no leader in the front office, only “titles” that are bestowed on people. Doesn’t matter if you have a 6 month plan or a 30 year plan, somebody has to lead the way, much like on the field. Until that happens this place will continue to be the laughing stock of the NRL and every fan that doesn’t support WT.


So everyone at the club just has a title and a salary but they don't do anything ? I assume they have plans but because no is leading them no one does anything. Is that correct ?

**It all sounds like a great little comedy show or something.**

After what i saw on Saturday night, i wouldn't say it sounds like anything, more that it is.

Interesting. I assume that if you were CEO or captain then we'd finally have leadership and we'd win the comp.

I can't wait until that happens. It's going to be a good day.

Well with comments like this made in 2015:

Pascoe is keen to improve the club's relationship with the community, but admits there is a strong possibility the club will move to secure its financial viability by establishing one home base in 2017 and beyond.

"I'll obviously go through the process of doing the full review of our agreements," Pascoe said.

"I'll be keen to go meet all those councils and get an understanding of where our members actually reside.

"Whether we play games at Campbelltown or Leichhardt or not, the main emphasis will be to maintain or increase our engagement with our fans out there and really invest in the communities out there.

"I don't think there has been a community strategy in place for the last couple of years and that's something I'm keen to implement.

**"But one thing I will say unequivocally is that there needs to be one defined home to complement the one defined brand of the Wests Tigers."**


Six years later and still in exactly the same position. I probably wouldn't have much to live up to going by that. Maybe i could get myself suspended for 6 months for cheating the cap and put the club in a worse predicament of 320k salary cap penalty per annum for a couple of years.


Awesome,,,,,,


So he achieve financial stability, record membership numbers, the CoE, sets up new pathways including the appointment of Sheens, Kimmorly and Hartigan.....

but you dig up a quote from 6 years ago and we are supposed to hang him on that?

Guess we can't hang him on the results of those seasons either .........#protectedspecies


If they sacked the CEO three years ago, and in the mean time the new guy had a nice hair cut, appointed Madge, turned around our finances, achieved record membership, created the CoE, appointed Sheens, Hartigan & kimmorley, there would be a statue of him on Parramatta Road.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

?

Calm down.

 

[Geo]

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/queenslands-shock-call-to-relocate-sydney-nrl-club-to-brisbane/news-story/c8c66466f185e2644a2b6dbb5cf0c3c1

Interesting suggestion. I’m guessing press will start point at West’s Tigers given we are the nomads.

Also one of the expansion bids is East Brisbane Tigers so…..

We'll take Firehawks then..

 

[BZN]

There is no leader in the front office, only “titles” that are bestowed on people. Doesn’t matter if you have a 6 month plan or a 30 year plan, somebody has to lead the way, much like on the field. Until that happens this place will continue to be the laughing stock of the NRL and every fan that doesn’t support WT.


So everyone at the club just has a title and a salary but they don't do anything ? I assume they have plans but because no is leading them no one does anything. Is that correct ?

**It all sounds like a great little comedy show or something.**

After what i saw on Saturday night, i wouldn't say it sounds like anything, more that it is.

Interesting. I assume that if you were CEO or captain then we'd finally have leadership and we'd win the comp.

I can't wait until that happens. It's going to be a good day.

Well with comments like this made in 2015:

Pascoe is keen to improve the club's relationship with the community, but admits there is a strong possibility the club will move to secure its financial viability by establishing one home base in 2017 and beyond.

"I'll obviously go through the process of doing the full review of our agreements," Pascoe said.

"I'll be keen to go meet all those councils and get an understanding of where our members actually reside.

"Whether we play games at Campbelltown or Leichhardt or not, the main emphasis will be to maintain or increase our engagement with our fans out there and really invest in the communities out there.

"I don't think there has been a community strategy in place for the last couple of years and that's something I'm keen to implement.

**"But one thing I will say unequivocally is that there needs to be one defined home to complement the one defined brand of the Wests Tigers."**


Six years later and still in exactly the same position. I probably wouldn't have much to live up to going by that. Maybe i could get myself suspended for 6 months for cheating the cap and put the club in a worse predicament of 320k salary cap penalty per annum for a couple of years.


Awesome,,,,,,


So he achieve financial stability, record membership numbers, the CoE, sets up new pathways including the appointment of Sheens, Kimmorly and Hartigan.....

but you dig up a quote from 6 years ago and we are supposed to hang him on that?

Guess we can't hang him on the results of those seasons either .........#protectedspecies


If they sacked the CEO three years ago, and in the mean time the new guy had a nice hair cut, appointed Madge, turned around our finances, achieved record membership, created the CoE, appointed Sheens, Hartigan & kimmorley, there would be a statue of him on Parramatta Road.

Yeah ...how are those pet memberships going .....


Any members actually happy?

[/QUOTE]

We've reached the bottom, so it can only be UP from here.
And being realistic, I wouldn't be surprised if we didnt win to many games in what's left of this year, but I can handle that as I see it only being UP from here.
As we all know...life is to short to be miserable.
I said in another post an hour or so ago, I am nearly skint, but that's life...just get on with life and accept it as it is.

 

[BZN]

Queensland’s shock call to ‘relocate’ Sydney NRL club to Brisbane attracts anger

Queensland calls it a “strategic alliance” rather than “relocation”, but there’s no mistaking it involves moving an established Sydney NRL club north and it hasn’t gone down well.
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Queensland Rugby League chairman Bruce Hatcher has infuriated Cronulla after doubling down on his call for the Sharks to be a potential NRL club that could be relocated to Brisbane instead of establishing a brand new franchise in 2023.

Sharks chief executive Dino Mezzatesta labelled it “disgusting” to pin the target on his club that has now surpassed Parramatta with the second most juniors behind only Penrith, although he did concede the idea had merit because “there is probably one too many Sydney clubs”.

The long-time Maroons boss was adamant “I am not trying to be controversial”.


But Hatcher used this year’s State of Origin debacle to again highlight why the depth of playing talent is not ready to support 17 teams at this point.

This comes as the Australian Rugby League Commissioners were on Monday forced to abandon formal presentations by the three expansion bid groups — the Firehawks, Jets and Dolphins — due to the developing Covid situation.

Hatcher preferred to use the phrase “strategic alliance” rather than “relocation” when quizzed on his thoughts.

But there was certainly no mistaking exactly what he was suggesting — moving an established Sydney club north of the border to play out of Suncorp Stadium.

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QRL chairman Bruce Hatcher thinks Cronulla should be relocated to Brisbane. Picture: QRL/Jorja Brinums
QRL chairman Bruce Hatcher thinks Cronulla should be relocated to Brisbane. Picture: QRL/Jorja Brinums
While it’s not the first time he’s argued against expansion (the Sharks pointed out he did the same thing last September), Hatcher had some fresh ammunition in the wake of Sunday night’s Origin shame that secured NSW’s third series victory in four years.



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Queensland has been absolutely lapped in the first two games to the tune of 76-6.

Not that the lopsided scoreboard has surprised too many fans given a complete difference in the class and experience of the teams, with the Maroons recent era of dominance now feeling like a distant memory.

Hatcher said while he was preparing to read the 197-odd page GEMBA report that looked into the viability of NRL expansion, he was pretty sure what the next step needed to be.

“To me, how can we (Queensland) be competitive?” he questioned.

“In our halcyon days we had 10-odd players from the Broncos to pick in the Origin side.

“We have one this year (Xavier Coates).

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“You don’t have to look too far to see that we have to address issues.”

But Hatcher is also adamant it is a must to have a game played at Suncorp every week, which is what the TV networks also want.

He is also concerned an extra NRL club would potentially come at the expense of future grassroots funding, further stunting player development.

“I will tell you precisely what I think should happen,” Hatcher said.

“I would take a Sydney club and do a strategic alliance with one of those three bidders.

“I would relocate the side up here and at the end of three years I would assess the financial viability of how that has worked, and if it doesn’t work I would allow the Sydney based club to go back to its roots if it really wanted to do that.

“But I think straddling two markets is absolutely vital.

“Most vital is that we have an NRL quality game in Brisbane every weekend.”

The QRL chairman says the Sharks should be relocated to Brisbane. Picture: NRL Imagery
The QRL chairman says the Sharks should be relocated to Brisbane. Picture: NRL Imagery
He said he was not against expansion but now was not the right time.

“I think we need to use the three years with projects like we have (the QRL) to develop more talent,” Hatcher continued.

“I think our sub elite competition (the Intrust Super Cup), we have to identify more players out of there that we can get to the NRL level quicker.”

Hatcher was reluctant to name which club he believed would be best suited for the move but when pushed on it, he laughed: “Do you want me to get my head lopped off further?

“I think I will bring Cronulla up here.


“Look, honestly, it is none of my business (which team is relocated).

“I am just saying it is a business model that will work and they straddle two markets and they get to play games in Sydney and they play games up here.

“You have got to have a game at Suncorp every weekend.

“I just think it is the interim step that needs to be considered.”

But to suggest the Sharks were not impressed is a massive understatement.

“This is the second time this guy has done this and the first time I wrote to him in absolute disgust and he rang me and apologised,” Mezzatesta said.

The controversial suggestion will infuriate Sharks fans.
The controversial suggestion will infuriate Sharks fans.
“It is absolutely disgusting. Seriously, what is wrong with this bloke?”

Although he did concede having nine Sydney teams was an issue.

“He has got a good point, there is probably one too many Sydney clubs, or maybe two too many Sydney clubs,” Mezzatesta added.

“He has got a great point.

“But what gives him the right to select which club it should be?

“Has he got information we don’t know about?

“We are one of the strongest clubs financially at the moment going around.

“Not only that, everyone keeps thinking Cronulla is this little shire town.

“We have just surpassed Parramatta for participation in junior rugby league and we are only second to the Panthers.

“And you want to relocate us? We are a true pathways club. We have our own academy. Not many clubs can boast this.

“We have the largest catchment as far as Oztag and touch go, and they just throw away these comments.

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“It is just disgusting.

“Do some homework before you do anything, Bruce.”

This sort of talk about relocation just shows how important being financially viable is...and Pascoe [with a minor hick up] has placed Us nicely financially.

 

[Needaname]

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/queenslands-shock-call-to-relocate-sydney-nrl-club-to-brisbane/news-story/c8c66466f185e2644a2b6dbb5cf0c3c1

Interesting suggestion. I’m guessing press will start point at West’s Tigers given we are the nomads.

Also one of the expansion bids is East Brisbane Tigers so…..

I’d say us and the Dragons are most likely to be suggested.
Vlandys wants tribalism. Best way to do it is to remove the two clubs that encompass the greatest territory of Sydney. Bulldogs could always take on our COE.
Biggest bonus 1 home ground and an already established junior base.
East Wests Tigers?

 

[BAGNF05]

There is no leader in the front office, only “titles” that are bestowed on people. Doesn’t matter if you have a 6 month plan or a 30 year plan, somebody has to lead the way, much like on the field. Until that happens this place will continue to be the laughing stock of the NRL and every fan that doesn’t support WT.


So everyone at the club just has a title and a salary but they don't do anything ? I assume they have plans but because no is leading them no one does anything. Is that correct ?

**It all sounds like a great little comedy show or something.**

After what i saw on Saturday night, i wouldn't say it sounds like anything, more that it is.

Interesting. I assume that if you were CEO or captain then we'd finally have leadership and we'd win the comp.

I can't wait until that happens. It's going to be a good day.

Well with comments like this made in 2015:

Pascoe is keen to improve the club's relationship with the community, but admits there is a strong possibility the club will move to secure its financial viability by establishing one home base in 2017 and beyond.

"I'll obviously go through the process of doing the full review of our agreements," Pascoe said.

"I'll be keen to go meet all those councils and get an understanding of where our members actually reside.

"Whether we play games at Campbelltown or Leichhardt or not, the main emphasis will be to maintain or increase our engagement with our fans out there and really invest in the communities out there.

"I don't think there has been a community strategy in place for the last couple of years and that's something I'm keen to implement.

**"But one thing I will say unequivocally is that there needs to be one defined home to complement the one defined brand of the Wests Tigers."**


Six years later and still in exactly the same position. I probably wouldn't have much to live up to going by that. Maybe i could get myself suspended for 6 months for cheating the cap and put the club in a worse predicament of 320k salary cap penalty per annum for a couple of years.


Awesome,,,,,,


So he achieve financial stability, record membership numbers, the CoE, sets up new pathways including the appointment of Sheens, Kimmorly and Hartigan.....

but you dig up a quote from 6 years ago and we are supposed to hang him on that?

Guess we can't hang him on the results of those seasons either .........#protectedspecies


If they sacked the CEO three years ago, and in the mean time the new guy had a nice hair cut, appointed Madge, turned around our finances, achieved record membership, created the CoE, appointed Sheens, Hartigan & kimmorley, there would be a statue of him on Parramatta Road.

Yeah ...how are those pet memberships going .....


Any members actually happy?

We've reached the bottom, so it can only be UP from here.
And being realistic, I wouldn't be surprised if we didnt win to many games in what's left of this year, but I can handle that as I see it only being UP from here.
As we all know...life is to short to be miserable.
I said in another post an hour or so ago, I am nearly skint, but that's life...just get on with life and accept it as it is.

Life will clearly go on for me without a good footy team to support. It’s like 1% of my happiness. In saying that as a paying member I feel I have every right to express dissatisfaction on a public forum. I feel like more members are in my position than yours mate.

If Pascoe was interviewed in 2015 and stated, the club won’t play finals for the next 6 years under my watch, would we have hired him? Forget the graphs and bank balance he is failing miserably.

 

[hank37w]

So if the plan started18 months ago, what was everyone doing before then? I've been told we have had great management for the last 6 years. What were they doing?

I don't know if you can blame the management of the club though. They punted on Cleary which is understandable and Cleary is the wrong person to lead a club like ours. If you already have the talent I reckon Cleary could be a good buy.

We can't turn this around quickly.

I look at the 76'ers in the NBA. They've built up a good squad but Ben Simmons is an overpaid dud and they will have to adjust. You got to make the best decisions you can at the time and adjust. There is no way every decision will pay off.

You hope that over time though if we continually look to improve we can become a better team and hopefully stay a better team for a number of years.

Take the Tampa Bay Bucaneers as an example. Struggling for years, fundamentally sound at a base level but weak in key positions. In one off season sign a winning quarterback ( halfback, Hastings ), a great tight end ( lock, TPJ ) a sensational running back ( centre, Gildart ) and a top flight WR ( wing, Maumolo) . Next step Superbowl ( premiership ) See how close we are?

Did you just compare Hastings to the greatest NFL player of all time?

Definite rookie error.

 

[the_third]

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/queenslands-shock-call-to-relocate-sydney-nrl-club-to-brisbane/news-story/c8c66466f185e2644a2b6dbb5cf0c3c1

Interesting suggestion. I’m guessing press will start point at West’s Tigers given we are the nomads.

Also one of the expansion bids is East Brisbane Tigers so…..

We'll take Firehawks then..

if we had all Sydney games at Cambo and Leichhardt and the rest up there sign me up. 26 round of home games works

 

[steve-o]

Do the Sharks really have the 2nd biggest junior base of the Sydney based clubs? We need an audit of those numbers as I think some nefarious counting might be going on… like South Sydney including pets in their membership numbers.

 

[jadtiger]

Do the Sharks really have the 2nd biggest junior base of the Sydney based clubs? We need an audit of those numbers as I think some nefarious counting might be going on… like South Sydney including pets in their membership numbers.

The "Liar from the Shire" is their number one supporter so i am sure there is a large amount of creative acounting involved.

 

[twentyforty]

Hatchers got it wrong imo, if he thinks there’s not enough talent for 2 teams in Brisbane. An extra team will create more opportunities and grow the talent, it’s an historical fact. At one time, Broncos, Cowboys and Titans didn’t exist and Wally was captain coach of Wynum Manly.