About time many of you got a life.

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^^^ says it all ^^^

As I suspected, you think youre more a supporter than others here.

Bravo

I love the "I dont bag the team, coach, CEO etc because I'm a true supporter"…..what a load of crap.

As long as players try I'm ok. But Russell Packer ia a quality front rower playing like a scared schoolboy on big money. He should be called out on that. Only mugs like tigers17 are ok with that.

Didn't you say on Tuesday that we would get beat by 50 with the team Ivan selected.
As per usual you're well short of the mark.
42 in fact.
 
As disappointing as these close matches are, the Tigers are moving in the right direction. We have definitely improved since last season. Our defence has been consistently solid. We are struggling on offence and still trying to put 80 minutes together.

Some of the other posters here are right - we are a few decent players short of having a consistent top 8 side. We need a little more X-factor. Whether it is N Cleary, Taupau, Mbye, Rona or whoever else - the coach knows this and is trying to recruit that way.

I don't think we can expect more than what has already been achieved in 2018\. At the end of the day we are in a rebuilding program. What I know is 2019 will be more successful than 2018 and 2020 will be even better.

If they continue to improve as a team, its a win. We are 1-2 seasons off being a serious contender….
 
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^^^ says it all ^^^

As I suspected, you think youre more a supporter than others here.

Bravo

I love the "I dont bag the team, coach, CEO etc because I'm a true supporter"…..what a load of crap.

As long as players try I'm ok. But Russell Packer ia a quality front rower playing like a scared schoolboy on big money. He should be called out on that. Only mugs like tigers17 are ok with that.

Didn't you say on Tuesday that we would get beat by 50 with the team Ivan selected.
As per usual you're well short of the mark.
42 in fact.

As long as your happy with another loss and underperforming players on big money.

I dont care about the loss. I care about guys like Packer taking us for a free ride. I was concerned how easily he left the dragons after they gave him a lifeline. Now, with a 4 year deal with the tigers, he is showing what I was worried about. A true man would have rewarded the dragons and stayed, instead he left for a payday and easy ride. But as l long as your happy with him.
 
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Some people like to vent and point out what they see as negatives. They have every right to do that as much as you have every right to keep a sunny disposition. Just learn to roll with it as everyone is different and are going to respond differently to situations. The only thing you can control is you.

Bro I don't have a sunny disposition.
I was taught sometime back, there is no gain without some pain.

Too many years of pain and this season is shaping up to be similar. When’s the gain? Next season? In 5 years? Never? Being positive is great. Being ignorant of blatant faults and flaws is how West’s are where they are.

Today’s game is a big cross against cleary. Lolo has done nothing to support he would of played and different to what he showed us today but was still selected. If this was potter or JT this place would be on fire but somehow CLEARY has earned the right to Avoid criticism cause he did something at another club years ago? Stupid stupid logic.

Not me mate, I think Tui is a bludger who shirks the tough stuff, should be punted ASAP, but I will cut Cleary some slack as we don't have a lot of options, but we have enough options to punt Tui though
 
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My devotion to the West Tigers is as strong as any contributor on this forum.

I follow a policy of not Bagging the Coach Ivan Cleary. His record speaks for itself, he has done exactly the same job as required by the Tigers at the Warriors and Penrith.
If his many detractors on this forum should actually listen and digest to what he has said time and time again, "The rebuilding of this club is in its INFANCY.
Nobody can argue he has turned our defence around, he has turned us into a side that competes until the final whistle EVERYWEEK.

I don't bag the CEO, Justin Pascoe who inherited a club in a diabolical state. Under his leadership record membership, record sponsorship. Front office in the best shape its been for well over a decade.

I don't bag the players who play in one of the hardest physical sports on the planet, and at this time of the season many are carrying niggling injuries week in week out. To be able to play and sustain an NRL career takes a lot of ability, toughness and a lot of guts, and some backbone, something that's sadly lacking in a great many posters on this forum.

Some of the criticisms levelled at both Ivan and the team are just INFANTILE. (Adjective-characteristics of or befitting an infant, childish).

Can you please explain the record that Ivan has that speaks for itself?
11 seasons coaching for 5 finals appearances
1 grand final appearance for zero wins
284 games coached 134 wins, 147 losses & 3 draws (47.2% wins).

He is not the messiah.

Who is the Messiah? I like to know.
 
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As disappointing as these close matches are, the Tigers are moving in the right direction. We have definitely improved since last season. Our defence has been consistently solid. We are struggling on offence and still trying to put 80 minutes together.

Some of the other posters here are right - we are a few decent players short of having a consistent top 8 side. We need a little more X-factor. Whether it is N Cleary, Taupau, Mbye, Rona or whoever else - the coach knows this and is trying to recruit that way.

I don't think we can expect more than what has already been achieved in 2018\. At the end of the day we are in a rebuilding program. What I know is 2019 will be more successful than 2018 and 2020 will be even better.

If they continue to improve as a team, its a win. We are 1-2 seasons off being a serious contender….

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I haven't seen most games but try and listen on the radio so don't necessarily have a robust opinion on most issues. But what I really like about this year is the fact that I can check the score and I'm getting less fearful of a flogging
 
Hey Tigers17

If you don't like what some are writing on this forum.

Don't visit it, no one is forcing you to be here.
 
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My devotion to the West Tigers is as strong as any contributor on this forum.

I follow a policy of not Bagging the Coach Ivan Cleary. His record speaks for itself, he has done exactly the same job as required by the Tigers at the Warriors and Penrith.
If his many detractors on this forum should actually listen and digest to what he has said time and time again, "The rebuilding of this club is in its INFANCY.
Nobody can argue he has turned our defence around, he has turned us into a side that competes until the final whistle EVERYWEEK.

I don't bag the CEO, Justin Pascoe who inherited a club in a diabolical state. Under his leadership record membership, record sponsorship. Front office in the best shape its been for well over a decade.

I don't bag the players who play in one of the hardest physical sports on the planet, and at this time of the season many are carrying niggling injuries week in week out. To be able to play and sustain an NRL career takes a lot of ability, toughness and a lot of guts, and some backbone, something that's sadly lacking in a great many posters on this forum.

Some of the criticisms levelled at both Ivan and the team are just INFANTILE. (Adjective-characteristics of or befitting an infant, childish).

Can you please explain the record that Ivan has that speaks for itself?
11 seasons coaching for 5 finals appearances
1 grand final appearance for zero wins
284 games coached 134 wins, 147 losses & 3 draws (47.2% wins).

He is not the messiah.

That's what they said about Jesus.
 
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This is going better than first thought..

Even the scarecrow got us to 9th without a salary cap !

Ivan’s clutch is slipping ….its a steep hill I’m afraid and we’re about to hit the glory bound rounds .

No not slipping - it's an automatic.
 
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My devotion to the West Tigers is as strong as any contributor on this forum.

I follow a policy of not Bagging the Coach Ivan Cleary. His record speaks for itself, he has done exactly the same job as required by the Tigers at the Warriors and Penrith.
If his many detractors on this forum should actually listen and digest to what he has said time and time again, "The rebuilding of this club is in its INFANCY.
Nobody can argue he has turned our defence around, he has turned us into a side that competes until the final whistle EVERYWEEK.

I don't bag the CEO, Justin Pascoe who inherited a club in a diabolical state. Under his leadership record membership, record sponsorship. Front office in the best shape its been for well over a decade.

I don't bag the players who play in one of the hardest physical sports on the planet, and at this time of the season many are carrying niggling injuries week in week out. To be able to play and sustain an NRL career takes a lot of ability, toughness and a lot of guts, and some backbone, something that's sadly lacking in a great many posters on this forum.

Some of the criticisms levelled at both Ivan and the team are just INFANTILE. (Adjective-characteristics of or befitting an infant, childish).

Can you please explain the record that Ivan has that speaks for itself?
11 seasons coaching for 5 finals appearances
1 grand final appearance for zero wins
284 games coached 134 wins, 147 losses & 3 draws (47.2% wins).

He is not the messiah.

If you can't see the impressive content there, then you should chuck it in.

These stats outline teams fortunes whilst in rebuilding stages with this coach.

What's not to like?
 
Not reading original post cos the thread title is ridiculous.

Stay off the forum if you can't discuss with the big boys.
 
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My devotion to the West Tigers is as strong as any contributor on this forum.

I follow a policy of not Bagging the Coach Ivan Cleary. His record speaks for itself, he has done exactly the same job as required by the Tigers at the Warriors and Penrith.
If his many detractors on this forum should actually listen and digest to what he has said time and time again, "The rebuilding of this club is in its INFANCY.
Nobody can argue he has turned our defence around, he has turned us into a side that competes until the final whistle EVERYWEEK.

I don't bag the CEO, Justin Pascoe who inherited a club in a diabolical state. Under his leadership record membership, record sponsorship. Front office in the best shape its been for well over a decade.

I don't bag the players who play in one of the hardest physical sports on the planet, and at this time of the season many are carrying niggling injuries week in week out. To be able to play and sustain an NRL career takes a lot of ability, toughness and a lot of guts, and some backbone, something that's sadly lacking in a great many posters on this forum.

Some of the criticisms levelled at both Ivan and the team are just INFANTILE. (Adjective-characteristics of or befitting an infant, childish).

Can you please explain the record that Ivan has that speaks for itself?
11 seasons coaching for 5 finals appearances
1 grand final appearance for zero wins
284 games coached 134 wins, 147 losses & 3 draws (47.2% wins).

He is not the messiah.

If you can't see the impressive content there, then you should chuck it in.

These stats outline teams fortunes whilst in rebuilding stages with this coach.

What's not to like?

4 Seasons at Penrith
15th, 10th, 4th, 11th
12th, 11th, 2nd, 12th before he go there.
6th & 7th after he left.

6 Seasons at the warriors
10th, 4th, 8th, 14th, 5th, 6th
8th, 1st, 6th, 14th before he got there
14th, 11th, 9th after he left

He had some pretty good players at the warriors: Wiki, Tate, Price, Maloney, Mannering, Vatuvei, Rapira. I am not saying he is a terrible coach, but he is not Bellamy or Bennett. He has achieved results on par with the talent he has to work with. He does not have great talent here.

He overhauled the Panthers roster, but the results were not great. He brought a lot of young talent through, but I am not sure that we have that young talent here.
 
I dont think the comments are ridiculous. I can cop losing, particularly when the players have a go (And they had a go today).

But I can't cop really braindead selections that are having a huge negative influence on our game. We had a fullback creating a heap in attack four weeks ago.

Had we had a different number 1 today and last week, we potentially win both those games the last two weeks, and yes us apparent "no nothings" on the forum could of predicted this before it happened. We could of won the last two weeks and thats without the fullback doing anything great, thats just with a fullback who can DO the basic things right (EG - Last week - attempt to catch a bomb on last play which cost us 2 valuable points…...we could of been kicking for FG at the end!.....then this week, be fast enough to be in position for any one of there 3 tries).
 
I tend to agree with the original poster. The is so much bile on our forum. The constant ‘solution’ is drop this player or that player

Like many have said we are a few key positions short.

I also agree with Ivan selecting Tui. We need to take the pain to be 100% sure he is not going to turn out great.
If you all remember back to Teddy’s first year you will remember the huge threads asking for him to be dropped. That said I am now pretty much at the end of my rope for Tui. The effort is just not there. Teddy sucked at first but the effort was there.
 
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So nobody can have an opinion that’s different to yours. Great post Champ

Different Opinion, couldn't care less.
What irks me is the constant whinging.
Learn to take the good with the bad.

Some people react differently to you. That’s part of life. I don’t think anybody disappointed in our team “need to get a life”
 
What a difference a kick can make

If Brooks kick lands in the hands of one of our players and we score then Gallen doesn't catch the ball and pass to Homes who gets a run away try
That's a 10 to 12 point turn around
We lost by 8
A better kick or a bounce of the ball and we win
We are always fighting for 80 minutes
The rewards will come
One thing is for sure
We have earned the respect of all teams without a doubt
Our defence is good
We just need more in attack
It will come
 
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