Alex McKinnon

[tig_prmz]

The NRL said today it would defer a hearing into the incident which resulted in an injury to Knights forward Alex McKinnon out of respect to the player and his family.

NRL Head of Football, Mr Todd Greenberg, said the focus should be solely on Alex's treatment and welfare at this time.

The NRL Match Review Committee today decided to refer a dangerous throw charge against Melbourne Storm player Jordan McLean to the NRL Judiciary because of the serious injury arising from the tackle.

Mr Greenberg said no date has been set for the hearing.

“Our immediate priority is to throw our support behind Alex and his family and to hope for a full recovery,” Mr Greenberg said.

“A date will be determined for Jordan's hearing after we consult with the Melbourne and Newcastle clubs.

“Jordan will be stood down from this week's match in Perth and until the matter is heard in line with the NRL's rules. However, the Storm have the right under the rules to seek leave from the NRL Judiciary Chairman for Jordan to play.

“It is undoubtedly a distressing time for Jordan as well but the NRL has to apply the rules and determine whether a breach has occurred.

“The Match Review Committee believes it is in the best interests of all for the hearing to be held in the Judiciary forum where all the information can be presented openly and transparently.

“But, out of respect for Alex and his family, that hearing should not be held at this time.”

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Gotta say I feel sorry for Jordan as well. Must be fighting his own demons and since Alex is still in Melbourne pay him a visit or two.

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[GNR4LIFE]

You're an absolute coward hiding behind your little guest username. Why don't you be a big brave boy and post under your username.

And solves what a user name has my personal details does it mr gnr4life is that your first or last. Ohh is your father slash and mother Cher.
Or do you want to dump me on my head and break my head and say it was an accident and it's no ones fault. Better yet blame it on the aliens that live on your planet. Pot head

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Sad, sad little man.

Guess you got slammed. Now every one knows it. Good luck.

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Lol if you say so hero.

Its one thing to say the tackle was intentional, its another to say they intended to break his neck. If you believe that, well to use an analogy my nameless new friend would use, you are high.

Tell me this if someone punches a guy and kills him,It's an accident ok if he didn't intend to kill him then maybe. BUT HE DID . Does he get charged with assault or murder?

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Completely different scenario. In that instance the person has intent to inflict harm on another. No player last night intended to harm anyone.

 

[Pokies]

My mate at work today explained it in this way on why he believes a long suspension is coming:

If you drive your car 10km over the speed limit and a cop catches you, you will be fined as you broke the law. If you drive 10km over the speed limit at the exact same place and kill a child who runs out in front of you then the penalty is much different. Now of course no one intentionally goes out to run over pedestrians but it happens, that's why we call it an accident even if the person was breaking the law whilst causing the accident.Everyday people are held responsible for these accidents.
Everybody knows the storm player didn't intentionally go out to break mckinnons neck but once he put his hands between the legs and lifted him he was breaking the law of the game and should be held accountable for the damage he did.

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[southerntiger]

I have changed my view. Watched the tackle again.
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Maclean should be banned for life. Disgraceful. Only had one intent. To harm the poor kid.

I am saddened by how many people on this website think the actions are justifiable. Sad day to be a fan of this club.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I have changed my view. Watched the tackle again.
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Maclean should be banned for life. Disgraceful. Only had one intent. To harm the poor kid.

I am saddened by how many people on this website think the actions are justifiable. Sad day to be a fan of this club.

McKinnon ducked his head trying to roll through. Before you jump down my throat accusing of me of blaming him, i don't, it was a split second decision on his part, he was trying to avoid face planting himself, but ducking his head didn't help the situation. Smith and Alexander even said so.

 

[sunshine_coast_tiger]

My mate at work today explained it in this way on why he believes a long suspension is coming:

If you drive your car 10km over the speed limit and a cop catches you, you will be fined as you broke the law. If you drive 10km over the speed limit at the exact same place and kill a child who runs out in front of you then the penalty is much different. Now of course no one intentionally goes out to run over pedestrians but it happens, that's why we call it an accident even if the person was breaking the law whilst causing the accident.Everyday people are held responsible for these accidents.
Everybody knows the storm player didn't intentionally go out to break mckinnons neck but once he put his hands between the legs and lifted him he was breaking the law of the game and should be held accountable for the damage he did.

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A very good point, the injury suffered in many cases determines the penalty. Happens on many circumstances in every day life.
Do I think it was the worst tackle I have very seen, not by a long shot. Do I think the Storm player was wrong with were his hands were, definitely. The more I watch it the more I think he is to blame,
Firstly I hope that the Newcastle player makes a full recovery.
If the injury didn't occur the Storm player would likely get at most 1-2 weeks. The fact that such a serious injury has occurred I can see him getting substantially longer and I can live with that as that is what happens on life.

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[southerntiger]

I have changed my view. Watched the tackle again.
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Maclean should be banned for life. Disgraceful. Only had one intent. To harm the poor kid.

I am saddened by how many people on this website think the actions are justifiable. Sad day to be a fan of this club.

McKinnon ducked his head trying to roll through. Before you jump down my throat accusing of me of blaming him, i don't, it was a split second decision on his part, he was trying to avoid face planting himself, but ducking his head didn't help the situation. Smith and Alexander even said so.

Bullshit mate. Maclean tried to hurt him and achieved his objective. Maclean placed him in the position. End of story.

Should be outed for life.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I have changed my view. Watched the tackle again.
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Maclean should be banned for life. Disgraceful. Only had one intent. To harm the poor kid.

I am saddened by how many people on this website think the actions are justifiable. Sad day to be a fan of this club.

McKinnon ducked his head trying to roll through. Before you jump down my throat accusing of me of blaming him, i don't, it was a split second decision on his part, he was trying to avoid face planting himself, but ducking his head didn't help the situation. Smith and Alexander even said so.

s*** mate. Maclean tried to hurt him and achieved his objective. Maclean placed him in the position. End of story.

Should be outed for life.

What evidence do you have that he intentionally tried to hurt him? the fact he put his hands between his legs? you're talking a split second action. You're saying in that split second Mclean decided ''you know what i'm gonna break this kids neck'' yeah right. They play one of hardest games in the world, things like this unfortunately are bound to happen sometimes. Its bad enough McLean will most probably live the rest of his life knowing he most probably ended someones career, and maybe affected their quality of life, and if he gets suspended then so be it. But for knuckleheads who want to accuse him of ''achieving his objective'' of breaking another guys neck is absolutely vial and dare i say influenced by their already lingering hatred for the Storm.

 

[stryker]

Outed for life is so over the top it's laughable
Intentional would be getting the ball runner practically vertical and driving him head first into the turf. This tackle was a long way from that.

 

[Black_n_White]

I wouldnt say that they intentionally went out to hurt him, thats a long bow to draw…

But as I said earlier, it wasnt the only time in that game that the Storm used the very same technique, if I remember correctly the Knights took a shot at goal off a prior infringement... it does change the scenario from a freak one off occurance, to at the very least a systematic problem, dare I say a diabolical attempt to slow down the ruck. Being a repeated offence shows complete disregard and duty of care to those you are playing against, think repeated Faoso spear tackles on Inglis, repeated head shots on teddy by the bunnies, repeated lifting of players past the horizontal... its not a scenario that just happens out of sheer bad luck.

Im heartbroken for McKinnon, and hope that he recovers well.

 

[TurnStyle]

as others have said, of utmost importance is the recovery of mckinnon and i wish him all the very best.

i was watching the game last night, and the first time i saw how he tucked his head to his chin i just cringed and thought "wtf are you doing?!". and his panicked face is indelible in my mind as i type… horrible.

tbh, it reminded me of a penalty blair milked against the titans when he flipped himself over and did a little "rolly Poly". sorry, not really a time for levity... but it was almost as if he thought he would turn himself over to exaggerate the tackle?

anyway, not many people other than mclean can know what he was thinking at the time, but he would be an absolute moron if it was that he wanted to piledrive mckinnon. who knows?

what i do believe though, is that regardless of intent, mclean should get a hefty suspension purely because of the outcome of the tackle. im sure he never would have meant for this to happen, but a solid 8-10 weeks on the sideline is nothing compared to 2 years of rehab, and without meaning to be insensitive, would also help him get over it himself. a light sentence and he will forever be faced with the stigma of a drunk driver who hit a kid and only got 2 years.

 

[happy_tiger]

One thing everyone must remember is this all happened in a split second

All Jordan is concerned about is trying to slow down the play the ball

All Alex is concerned about is a fast play the ball

Its all just a terrible accident and I hope Alex recovers well enough to live a normal life

 

[southerntiger]

Outed for life is so over the top it's laughable
Intentional would be getting the ball runner practically vertical and driving him head first into the turf. This tackle was a long way from that.

Yep it is over the top. But I am angry. There was no need to lift. The tackle was complete. He lifted and drove. It was a nasty act.

Until the game comes down hard on these grubby acts, players will continue to be placed in dangerous positions. It is no surprise it was Melbourne.

The whole split second is rubbish. This happened slowly and deliberately. He intended for his head to go into the turf. There was never any other outcome from his actions.

This is no different to the one punch. A punch doesnt ordinarily kill someone but by committing such a reckless act you have to
accept the consequences of your actions.

 

[TurnStyle]

i dont know about that, ST, but if a player were to deliberately try to maim someone there is no place in sport for them. or society for that matter….

 

[system]

I have changed my view. Watched the tackle again.
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Maclean should be banned for life. Disgraceful. Only had one intent. To harm the poor kid.

I am saddened by how many people on this website think the actions are justifiable. Sad day to be a fan of this club.

McKinnon ducked his head trying to roll through. Before you jump down my throat accusing of me of blaming him, i don't, it was a split second decision on his part, he was trying to avoid face planting himself, but ducking his head didn't help the situation. Smith and Alexander even said so.

s*** mate. Maclean tried to hurt him and achieved his objective. Maclean placed him in the position. End of story.

Should be outed for life.

What evidence do you have that he intentionally tried to hurt him? the fact he put his hands between his legs? you're talking a split second action. You're saying in that split second Mclean decided ''you know what i'm gonna break this kids neck'' yeah right. They play one of hardest games in the world, things like this unfortunately are bound to happen sometimes. Its bad enough McLean will most probably live the rest of his life knowing he most probably ended someones career, and maybe affected their quality of life, and if he gets suspended then so be it. But for knuckleheads who want to accuse him of ''achieving his objective'' of breaking another guys neck is absolutely vial and dare i say influenced by their already lingering hatred for the Storm.

Any player putting his hands between the legs and lifts it intentional. You want to hurt ask any player of the game from park to firsts.

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[happy_tiger]

If you look at some tackles in the modern age , what players are attempting to do is trying to hold a player up just off the ground to give the defensive line time to set

You can't get penalized as the tackle isn't complete

I'm not trying to focus off a terrible incident , but could this be the incident which finally rids us of the wrestle ??

 

[everett]

I wish Alex all the best and hope he has a quality life.

I love to see the three man tackle removed from our game. It is making the game boring and also dangerous. Most players now weigh over 100kgs so three men on you at 300kgs, something has to give.

I miss the round the legs tackles which are no longer rewarded.

Loved watching Toovey Mortimer cut people down with his boot leg tackles.

 

[southerntiger]

I dont hate Melbourne but they have had a philosophy of gang tackles and turning players onto their backs. Doctors have been warning for 3 years that these techniques were dangerous. So when I say it is no surprise it was against Melbourne.

This just really makes me sad.

For 15 years the NRL has banned lifting and placing the hands between the legs. How it still happens amazes me. Its all because Bellamy teaches his players to turn the man onto his back to slow down the play the ball.

Players also need to stop whingeing about the NRL. getting rid of certain tackling techniques and simply start listening to the NRL.

 

[tigerlogic]

I dont hate Melbourne but they have had a philosophy of gang tackles and turning players onto their backs. Doctors have been warning for 3 years that these techniques were dangerous. So when I say it is no surprise it was against Melbourne.

This just really makes me sad.

For 15 years the NRL has banned lifting and placing the hands between the legs. How it still happens amazes me. Its all because Bellamy teaches his players to turn the man onto his back to slow down the play the ball.

Players also need to stop whingeing about the NRL. getting rid of certain tackling techniques and simply start listening to the NRL.

All coaches teach players to tackle in numbers and to get the ball carrier on his back!

This is a freak accident, not melbournes fault!

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[Tiger_Watto]

I dont hate Melbourne but they have had a philosophy of gang tackles and turning players onto their backs. Doctors have been warning for 3 years that these techniques were dangerous. So when I say it is no surprise it was against Melbourne.

This just really makes me sad.

For 15 years the NRL has banned lifting and placing the hands between the legs. How it still happens amazes me. Its all because Bellamy teaches his players to turn the man onto his back to slow down the play the ball.

**Players also need to stop whingeing about the NRL. getting rid of certain tackling techniques and simply start listening to the NRL**.

Unfortunately, the motivation for both parties are far apart…

The players want to play a game/sport that they have always played.

The NRL/ARLC make changes to rules to protect them from litigation/scrutiny.