ANY solutions to this mess ?

[rex2ce]

What's your stake in this bobo? If I didn't know better I would suggest you are directly affiliated with the club, or you are close to someone who is.

i have no stake whatso ever.
i am generally shocked by this move as the communication and reasoning put forward by the club just does not stand up.

regardless of the name JT, its the overall decision by this club that is baffling.

how does a club say it is prepared to pay the best part of 900k for a play to move on in the same sentence as "salary cap pressure"

how does the club address the lack of confidence amongst the "young / brightest futures in the nrl" squad towards their coach and his failed structures.

surely their are some very smart fans out their who can see through the usual media rhetoric and throw something up that is worth thinking about ?

How do you now reinvigorate this young team and make them believe the club is one that stands by its emblem

1\. Farah plays 2016 and retires or plays UK ESL in 2017
2\. Taylor is sacked immediately and paid out from Farah's 2017 salary.
3\. Toovey is brought in immediately.

I 100% agree with P &Cs here,we have only sacked one coach in our history( sheens),Potters contract expired and was not renewed , so sacking Taylor is no big deal , he was chosen by the board who have nil football knowledge and advised by who knows. Whether you like him or not Farah is West Tigers and should be able to leave with dignity, see above.
Toovey would be a huge improvement and is a great motivator.
My big concern is that management are going to throw the chequebook at our halves which will put us in the same position in the future when they don't fit someone's plans

 

[cqtiger]

"Surely someone has something positive to offer other than - lets continue to kill the moral of this young side and if by round 7 next year we are no better situation, the coach will go ???"

I don't usually log onto a footy forum to solve problems.
Come to think of it, some on here would say I cause a few.

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[bobo125]

1\. Farah plays 2016 and retires or plays UK ESL in 2017
2\. Taylor is sacked immediately and paid out from Farah's 2017 salary.
3\. Toovey is brought in immediately.

I 100% agree with P &Cs here,we have only sacked one coach in our history( sheens),Potters contract expired and was not renewed , so sacking Taylor is no big deal , he was chosen by the board who have nil football knowledge and advised by who knows. Whether you like him or not Farah is West Tigers and should be able to leave with dignity, see above.
Toovey would be a huge improvement and is a great motivator.
My big concern is that management are going to throw the chequebook at our halves which will put us in the same position in the future when they don't fit someone's plans

i doubt Tooves would even consider going to the tigers to be honest.
hes seen first hand what a dysfunctional board room can do.

As for the halves, again to be honest, they will already have people advising them to tread with care.
regardless of the wage, at the end of the day players want to be part of or contributing to a winning / competitive culture.
that just cannot happen if they have no respect for the coach and the vise versa.
i might be wrong, but a young footballers dream is certainly NOT to be paid a huge wage yet play in a team that continues to go backwards.

 

[rex2ce]

So you are agreeing with me Bobo?

 

[magpiecol]

What's your stake in this bobo? If I didn't know better I would suggest you are directly affiliated with the club, or you are close to someone who is.

i have no stake whatso ever.
i am generally shocked by this move as the communication and reasoning put forward by the club just does not stand up.

regardless of the name JT, its the overall decision by this club that is baffling.

how does a club say it is prepared to pay the best part of 900k for a play to move on in the same sentence as "salary cap pressure"

how does the club address the lack of confidence amongst the "young / brightest futures in the nrl" squad towards their coach and his failed structures.

surely their are some very smart fans out their who can see through the usual media rhetoric and throw something up that is worth thinking about ?

How do you now reinvigorate this young team and make them believe the club is one that stands by its emblem

1\. Farah plays 2016 and retires or plays UK ESL in 2017
2\. Taylor is sacked immediately and paid out from Farah's 2017 salary.
3\. Toovey is brought in immediately.

I 100% agree with P &Cs here,we have only sacked one coach in our history( sheens),Potters contract expired and was not renewed , so sacking Taylor is no big deal , he was chosen by the board who have nil football knowledge and advised by who knows. Whether you like him or not Farah is West Tigers and should be able to leave with dignity, see above.
Toovey would be a huge improvement and is a great motivator.
My big concern is that management are going to throw the chequebook at our halves which will put us in the same position in the future when they don't fit someone's plans

Please define " leave with dignity"

Many people on this forum are kicking the crap out of the current board. They also have a big whinge about lack of accountability.

The salary cap fiasco was the work of the previous administration. The current board are attempting to right the ship in regards to our salary cap and playing roster. They are making hard decisions with which some of us may not agree. However, that is called "being accountable"

If you want to sandbag someone then the previous administration are the ones that should be coping your wrath.

Let's see how things are in 12 months.

 

[bobo125]

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Please define " leave with dignity"

Many people on this forum are kicking the crap out of the current board. They also have a big whinge about lack of accountability.

The salary cap fiasco was the work of the previous administration. The current board are attempting to right the ship in regards to our salary cap and playing roster. They are making hard decisions with which some of us may not agree. However, that is called "being accountable"

If you want to sandbag someone then the previous administration are the ones that should be coping your wrath.

Let's see how things are in 12 months.

can i just ask a simple question….
is attempting to fix the cap issues and then implementing a strategy that will force the club to pay upwards ofr $750K a year for 2 years of that cap to someone who is not part of the roster a fix ?

i can tell you now thats not accountability.
thats actually stupidity.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

What's your stake in this bobo? If I didn't know better I would suggest you are directly affiliated with the club, or you are close to someone who is.

Not having a dig at you or anyone Willow, but what's it matter who he /she is, the vast majority here are anonymous.
He's /she's got an opinion like everyone else and the right to post it
A lot of the posts here are so far wrong, that it's ridiculous, so if its wrong or right what's it matter?
All of us have been wrong at times, some just more than others
I've noticed other new posters here over the last few days, it's logical as
A lot of people who wouldn't have bothered to post, probably feel strongly about this stuff up that they have decided to have their say this time

GC,you are absolutely correct in what you say,I have been at the end of one of your posts a few times and yes we are mostly anonymous,albeit I have my photo with others from the forum get together posted on here and dont care one bit…
My only arguement is why did "BoBo" join on weds morning after this latest drama with Robbie and vent his absolute hatred toward Taylor when he clearly stated that the playing group had lost confidence in Taylor after round 7...shouldnt he have joined then and voiced his somewhat angry opinion of Taylor then...he clearly despises Taylor..myself Im willing to let Taylor get on with his job and I will judge him mid next season...

I don't know his reasons TT, maybe this latest thing is just the thing that was needed to push him into posting.
He may not have felt strongly enough in the past , to take that step.
Theres about 6 of us that moved to the GC in the early 80s over a few months. We were all mates and Wests supporters and later they became WTs supporters and still are. So far.
I've never seen them so peed off with the club , as they have been this year, (and we've been through some pretty crook years over that time) both with Taylor and the club in general. Very much so for the nonsense and excuses that have pedalled for most of the year.
I'd say at the moment that some will give up the club and go and support the Titans from now on( not that that will affect WTs as we live here and don't go to games in Sydney much,). but it's just another indication of how some have really been angered over the actions of the club and Coachand their treatment of Farah and also Lawrence,

 

[newtiger]

Sit down fasten your seat belt it's going to a bumpy ride!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Guest]

As far as solutions go, the ultimate solution appears to be quite simple, the Tigers are getting rid of Farah. I don't necessarily think it has gone down the way they would have preferred as far as media is concerned, but Taylor has made the hard decision to cut Farah with the goal of uniting the team for next season and doing things his way.

There are many rumours in all of this being circulated, but the one rumour I do believe is that Farah is more or less detached from the playing group and is not adhering to Taylor's vision and gameplan. To me it seems the most simple solution is to take the hard knock now from the public backlash, start pre-season fresh and hopefully by next season Farah has sorted out his playing future.

Of course I could be wrong, but this is how I currently see it.

 

[Abraham]

… not worry about why bob joined on wednesday....

Bob = Robert = Robbie.

Now it all makes sense!

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[innsaneink]

What's your stake in this bobo? If I didn't know better I would suggest you are directly affiliated with the club, or you are close to someone who is.

Not having a dig at you or anyone Willow, but what's it matter who he /she is, the vast majority here are anonymous.
He's /she's got an opinion like everyone else and the right to post it
A lot of the posts here are so far wrong, that it's ridiculous, so if its wrong or right what's it matter?
All of us have been wrong at times, some just more than others
I've noticed other new posters here over the last few days, it's logical as
A lot of people who wouldn't have bothered to post, probably feel strongly about this stuff up that they have decided to have their say this time

GC,you are absolutely correct in what you say,I have been at the end of one of your posts a few times and yes we are mostly anonymous,albeit I have my photo with others from the forum get together posted on here and dont care one bit…
My only arguement is why did "BoBo" join on weds morning after this latest drama with Robbie and vent his absolute hatred toward Taylor when he clearly stated that the playing group had lost confidence in Taylor after round 7...shouldnt he have joined then and voiced his somewhat angry opinion of Taylor then...he clearly despises Taylor..myself Im willing to let Taylor get on with his job and I will judge him mid next season...

I don't know his reasons TT, maybe this latest thing is just the thing that was needed to push him into posting.
He may not have felt strongly enough in the past , to take that step.
Theres about 6 of us that moved to the GC in the early 80s over a few months. We were all mates and Wests supporters and later they became WTs supporters and still are. So far.
I've never seen them so peed off with the club , as they have been this year, (and we've been through some pretty crook years over that time) both with Taylor and the club in general. Very much so for the nonsense and excuses that have pedalled for most of the year.
I'd say at the moment that some will give up the club and go and support the Titans from now on( not that that will affect WTs as we live here and don't go to games in Sydney much,). but it's just another indication of how some have really been angered over the actions of the club and Coachand their treatment of Farah and also Lawrence,

The troll is loving it….bitter little peaheart AND a troll to boot

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

IMO this is another step in the solution to the mess we're in…

 

[LCA]

What mess bobo? Robbie has been told that he does not fit in with the clubs plans going forward and that he should look for another club. Pretty straightforward - happens pretty regularly at all clubs.

There will be a problem; however, if Robbie digs in his heels and the coach and board relent and play him in first grade next year. It would be a signal to the NRL generally that nothing has changed at the Tigers. The coach and board don't have control of the WT destiny and that the senior players still run the show. Now that would be a mess!

That would only be an issue if it was true. Where's your evidence that the senior players ever did or still run the show?

 

[cunno]

The solution has already been set by the Board and JT in that Farah is either gone from the club or gone to state cup (with a recall to SOO). Taylor gets what he has asked for ie a situation where he steers the team in the direction he wants next year. If that fails then JT is gone and we start again.

 

[TigerOfBankstown]

Short term solution

1) Bottle of Scotch for breakfast each day, other than that getting rid of JT would be the starting point. The whole Farah saga is a big fail, though Farah is well past his prime, this was terrible timing and a knee jerk reaction true to Wests Tigers form. Surely they could have hammered out a more respectful solution. This was disgraceful.
2) Bring in a coach who will instil fear in the kids and bring out the best in them, nurture them, educate them, mentor them and play to their strengths.

Long term solution

1) Privatised the joint
2) Get rid of the Balmain/Wests factions
3) Play out of one ground, though not that soulless Homebush
4) Get rid of the current or any previously affiliated board or admin members.

Failing this then they will relocate us.

Ps can't believe the paranoia and venom aimed at Bobo, this forum must be the exclusive boys only Wests Tigers forum club? Are these the same people harping on back in the day regarding sheens and the boys club? Well sheens and the boys club are but almost gone yet 4 years later we've gone backwards in every department. Last in 2015 and no life in the ticker besides, all we have is beliefs and systems which sounds a lot like religion.

Has anyone actually thought how many games we would have won in 2015 if we did not have the unbelievable talent that is Tedesco in our team? Most of the games we won was this season was based on raw talent, nothing to do with mathematical systems or defense.

Get rid of Taylor before he destroys the kids and the club. And take that Kidwell with you, get him s job as a bouncer.

 

[cktiger]

What would be really funny is if robbie turned around and said " because I love the club and the fans I'll make the decision to put my hand up and take a 500,000.00 paycut". Won't happen cause Robbie's contracted and all, but if I loved the club as much as robbie says he does I would do it, knowing full well the contract is back ended and all also knowing that without the club if just be another faceless suit toiling away somewhere in some office where no one had ever heard of me. But by doing that Robbie would seriously cause a massive problem for jt and the board. Firstly by erasing the salary cap issue and secondly by involving the fans even more by proving he is willing to do whatever it takes for the club the bulk of the fans would turn on jt and the board in an instant with the sentiment that if he is willing to sacrifice the money for us even after his success and service how can you do this to him. For me personally I think he should have been let go with benji, I started another topic after the sharks game titled is it just me iv personally felt robbie has never been anything more than a paycheck player. The only thing this guy loves more than the tigers is money and influence he would be willing to rip the club apart if either is in jeopardy. If I was the CEO I'd say fine you love the club then for the next two years we will keep you on in an ambassadorial role to make appearances on behalf of the club but you are surplus to requirements you will receive full contractual payments but will not be playing a game for us either in first grade or reserve grade. That's just what I would do, I know it's harsh but if management give you the tap on the shoulder you go there's nothing to fight for just go if robbie really loves the club as much as he says then he'd take a paycut and place the ball squarely in managements court just to involve the dans even more. Sorry bout the long post but I'm glad he's been given the tap he's been the leader of the mediocrity brigade for to long and doesn't have the winning culture in him.

Not a bad post liltiger,all I would say is I think because Robbie has been there so long he thinks he commands the whole club,unfortunately things are changing….maybe for the better,who knows.....

Do you seriously think the coach or anybody on the board is more passionate about the Tigers than Farah.
Everybody seems to forget he is only on such big money the next two years is because he played the last two years for way unders.

 

[fibrodreaming]

What mess bobo? Robbie has been told that he does not fit in with the clubs plans going forward and that he should look for another club. Pretty straightforward - happens pretty regularly at all clubs.

There will be a problem; however, if Robbie digs in his heels and the coach and board relent and play him in first grade next year. It would be a signal to the NRL generally that nothing has changed at the Tigers. The coach and board don't have control of the WT destiny and that the senior players still run the show. Now that would be a mess!

That would only be an issue if it was true. Where's your evidence that the senior players ever did or still run the show?

My apologies LCA for the delay in replying. I have only now seen your question, hence the delay in responding.

You know of course that I don't have hard evidence because I, like most other supporters, are only observers in the soap opera which has been the WT for the past 5 years.

There were rumors that a 'boys club' within the WT got rid of Sheens and strong rumors that a delegation of players met the board last year with a view of getting rid of Potter.

But, we now have the current brouhaha with Robbie.

I ask you, if JT told a 'Neville nobody' with two years left on his contract, that he was no longer required at the club, would we know about it? Of course, only those dedicated followers of the WT Forum would know. The media; however, couldn't care less.

But we now have a soap opera being played out before our very eyes. Robbie versus the coach with full colour spreads in the major weekend newspapers. I needed a box of Kleenex tissues close by to finish the coverage in the DT.

So, in answer to your question "Where's your evidence that the senior players ever did or still run the show?" I refer you to today's editions for the Sydney Morning Herald and the Daily Telegraph.

They are my exhibits A and B!

 

[magpiecol]

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Please define " leave with dignity"

Many people on this forum are kicking the crap out of the current board. They also have a big whinge about lack of accountability.

The salary cap fiasco was the work of the previous administration. The current board are attempting to right the ship in regards to our salary cap and playing roster. They are making hard decisions with which some of us may not agree. However, that is called "being accountable"

If you want to sandbag someone then the previous administration are the ones that should be coping your wrath.

Let's see how things are in 12 months.

can i just ask a simple question….
is attempting to fix the cap issues and then implementing a strategy that will force the club to pay upwards ofr $750K a year for 2 years of that cap to someone who is not part of the roster a fix ?

i can tell you now thats not accountability.
thats actually stupidity.

No it's not. Do the math.

You would have shed a player, who is not going to be playing first grade next year. So instead of paying him 2 mil over those two years to play reserve grade, you would only be paying him say, 1 million. That my genius friend is a saving of 1 million is it not?

 

[Flippedy]

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And start all over again!

 

[whippet75]

Sack Taylor. Robbie to be captain coach for the next 2 years. Gets paid $300,000 for playing and $600,000 for coaching. Coaches payments aren't included in the cap. Robbie gets his money, and will finally get on with a coach ( himself). No $900,000+ on the cap. And no Taylor , with his loosing structures. Taylor's money goes to assistant coach Toovey

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