Anyone Else Confident ?

@strrretch said:
"gluten free diet" ? Sounds too childish to be true….surely
And if it is untrue, the messenger needs a good kicking

Probably is true, all clubs have dieticians who are employed to make sure the players are given the right diets for the physical demands of football. Every club is trying to find that magical thing that will give them the edge. I just think you have to use a bit of common sense, eat what you like but in moderation
 
Lots of rumours out there about JT & the squad,not many are good,Wayne Pearce ran into similar problems in his coaching stint,lost the dressing room as not everyone wants to spend all day in the Gym drinking Goats Milk.
We urgently need a Jack Gibson type personality to bash this Club into shape and forge some sort of ID & Culture.
 
Might not have to be Sherlock Holmes but a course in creative writing always helps…funny stuff...
 
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Tigermama said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Tigermama said:
Lets hope your right , about JT picking players on form. I'm not convinced. Will wait and see.

Our recruitment "magnificent" ?
I think adequate might be closer to the truth.
We have picked up some useful buys , ( if they are given the chance) and that's no certainty.
I must have missed the magnificent signing that we've pulled off. Lol

As for being confident, I'd be a lot more confident if our round 1 opponent wasn't the type of team that always terrifies me as a WTs supporter.
Big, fast , hard forward pack who actually know the meaning of aggression.
If our forward s get smoked( ( as happens often against teams like this),, it could get horribly ugly . I just hope that Taylor reminds them that controlled aggression is a good thing for a forward to have. And that they won't get in trouble if they bruise the opposite forwards
Il gladly accept any type of win in this one, good , bad, or fluke.

The Warriors are my second favourite team GCT… But I hope we blow them off the park :sign:

My 10 year old Grandson has swapped favourites now to the Warriors, he must have more NRL jumpers than Rebel Sports. He's like a weather vane at the moment. When we get a few wins he'l be back on the WTs bandwagon.
I figure he'll be about 16 by then :laughing:

I sometimes wonder if the next 16 year old to see a good Tigers team still won't be born for another 20 years. And will be from Perth.
 
If the board did sack Taylor after 6 weeks it would show them to be grossly incompetent. Why sign a coach for 3 yrs only to sack him not even halfway through when he didn't even have any room to move in the cap. In saying that though I'd take McGuire in a heartbeat. BUT, why would Madge come here? Why are we going to appeal to any top line coach? They sure as hell won't agree to a long term contract.
 
@Oxygen said:
Bumped into someone today that has a lot to do with the club and I would not say he has a great deal of confidence.
He mentioned Luke Brooks looks like he is seriously considering going to the dogs as he cannot stand playing under Taylor.
Moses will go as well as Taylor has killed off their natural instincts to play what's in front of them.
Taylor is driving the players mad with a gluten free diet.
This will probably Robbies last year with a deal to be sorted out in ESL.
Balmain no chance of paying off the debt , Wests Ashfield to buy another 25 percent with the other 25 percent being sold off to a private investor.
Madge is extremely unhappy at Souths with the Tigers ready to make a big play for him if he decides to leave , Ivan Cleary is the second choice and has already been sounded out.
As for Taylor he has six weeks to turn it around and the contract is in the clubs favour with no payout required should he be sacked after six weeks.

This all sounds feasible but we will just have to wait and see how much of this is true
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
If the board did sack Taylor after 6 weeks it would show them to be grossly incompetent. Why sign a coach for 3 yrs only to sack him not even halfway through when he didn't even have any room to move in the cap. In saying that though I'd take McGuire in a heartbeat. BUT, why would Madge come here? Why are we going to appeal to any top line coach? They sure as hell won't agree to a long term contract.

A lot of money and moses/ brooks re-signed. That would be a good incentive.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
If the board did sack Taylor after 6 weeks it would show them to be grossly incompetent. Why sign a coach for 3 yrs only to sack him not even halfway through when he didn't even have any room to move in the cap. In saying that though I'd take McGuire in a heartbeat. BUT, why would Madge come here? Why are we going to appeal to any top line coach? They sure as hell won't agree to a long term contract.

Yep the board would look like fools but they would view it as a decison of cutting their losses before things get worse, either way it highlights a poor decision made by them.
Madge would be a dream scenario, things would have to turn pretty sour at souths for him to leave but with Rusty running the show its a possibility. Would still think Cleary is the more likely outcome.
 
Moses and Brooks' first preference would be to stay together and play with their mates at the Tigers. I think it is going to take a fair bit for them to leave the tigers (and more then likely each other).

Is it a coincidence that the change in structure comes at the same time that they pushed back their decision to extend ? I think not.

If we start winning games early in 2016, they are certainties to extend IMO.

So much rides on the first 12 weeks of the season, its scary just thinking about it. Could be the biggest 12 weeks in our history.
 
The mates thing is overblown imo. They're professionals. There's a saying in sport, you can make friends, or you can make money. If the circumstances are right to leave, it will take more than mateship to persuade them to stay.
 
@Oxygen said:
Bumped into someone today that has a lot to do with the club and I would not say he has a great deal of confidence.
He mentioned Luke Brooks looks like he is seriously considering going to the dogs as he cannot stand playing under Taylor.
Moses will go as well as Taylor has killed off their natural instincts to play what's in front of them.
Taylor is driving the players mad with a gluten free diet.
This will probably Robbies last year with a deal to be sorted out in ESL.
Balmain no chance of paying off the debt , Wests Ashfield to buy another 25 percent with the other 25 percent being sold off to a private investor.
Madge is extremely unhappy at Souths with the Tigers ready to make a big play for him if he decides to leave , Ivan Cleary is the second choice and has already been sounded out.
As for Taylor he has six weeks to turn it around and the contract is in the clubs favour with no payout required should he be sacked after six weeks.

This sort of talk is just nonsense :crazy to start such a rumour at the beginning of the season is bad.

To begin with if Brooks And Moses are unhappy here and they want to get rid of the coach (in 6 weeks) we are not going to win any matches in that time and the only ones to be upset will be the poor fans who only want to see the club succeed.

However (I have heard) that Brooks and Moses have been given the all clear to play their game, that came from JT in an interview, and I'm sure I heard Moses say that in an interview as well.
So lets be a bit positive - I know that is difficult, but GO TIGERS :sign:
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
The mates thing is overblown imo. They're professionals. There's a saying in sport, you can make friends, or you can make money. If the circumstances are right to leave, it will take more than mateship to persuade them to stay.

Well we've already overcome our first challenge, with teddy choosing to make friends rather then money. Considering Brooks and Moses probably won't be offered the money Teddy was, I can't see why they won't make the same decision given the circumstances are right for them to stay.

By the looks of it and the talk from Brooks and Moses this off season, adjustments have been made (rightly or wrongly) to suit their style of play and give them reason to stay. I'd say they're holding off to see how long this free reign lasts before they commit to the club any further.

It's simple. We win games, the shackles stay loosened, Everyones happy and they re-sign.
 
@tigeress said:
@Oxygen said:
Bumped into someone today that has a lot to do with the club and I would not say he has a great deal of confidence.
He mentioned Luke Brooks looks like he is seriously considering going to the dogs as he cannot stand playing under Taylor.
Moses will go as well as Taylor has killed off their natural instincts to play what's in front of them.
Taylor is driving the players mad with a gluten free diet.
This will probably Robbies last year with a deal to be sorted out in ESL.
Balmain no chance of paying off the debt , Wests Ashfield to buy another 25 percent with the other 25 percent being sold off to a private investor.
Madge is extremely unhappy at Souths with the Tigers ready to make a big play for him if he decides to leave , Ivan Cleary is the second choice and has already been sounded out.
As for Taylor he has six weeks to turn it around and the contract is in the clubs favour with no payout required should he be sacked after six weeks.

This sort of talk is just nonsense :crazy to start such a rumour at the beginning of the season is bad.

To begin with if Brooks And Moses are unhappy here and they want to get rid of the coach (in 6 weeks) we are not going to win any matches in that time and the only ones to be upset will be the poor fans who only want to see the club succeed.

However (I have heard) that Brooks and Moses have been given the all clear to play their game, that came from JT in an interview, and I'm sure I heard Moses say that in an interview as well.
So lets be a bit positive - I know that is difficult, but GO TIGERS :sign:[/quote

Hear, Hear. That latest "inside word" from the Tigers camp is very disturbing. I don't know how many true there is to it ( probably not much or at the very least, grossly exaggerated. If it came from TT, I'd be worried but it didn't. There were many good signs coming out of the first trail game. Hopefully they continue again today.
 
@tigeress said:
@Oxygen said:
Bumped into someone today that has a lot to do with the club and I would not say he has a great deal of confidence.
He mentioned Luke Brooks looks like he is seriously considering going to the dogs as he cannot stand playing under Taylor.
Moses will go as well as Taylor has killed off their natural instincts to play what's in front of them.
Taylor is driving the players mad with a gluten free diet.
This will probably Robbies last year with a deal to be sorted out in ESL.
Balmain no chance of paying off the debt , Wests Ashfield to buy another 25 percent with the other 25 percent being sold off to a private investor.
Madge is extremely unhappy at Souths with the Tigers ready to make a big play for him if he decides to leave , Ivan Cleary is the second choice and has already been sounded out.
As for Taylor he has six weeks to turn it around and the contract is in the clubs favour with no payout required should he be sacked after six weeks.

This sort of talk is just nonsense :crazy to start such a rumour at the beginning of the season is bad.

To begin with if Brooks And Moses are unhappy here and they want to get rid of the coach (in 6 weeks) we are not going to win any matches in that time and the only ones to be upset will be the poor fans who only want to see the club succeed.

However (I have heard) that Brooks and Moses have been given the all clear to play their game, that came from JT in an interview, and I'm sure I heard Moses say that in an interview as well.
So lets be a bit positive - I know that is difficult, but GO TIGERS :sign:

I don't think that they want to get rid of the coach. There isn't a problem with the coach.

The problem "was" with his tactics and stifling structures in 2015\. This off season has seen JT loosen the reigns and as such I think any problems with the coach have been put to bed heading into 2016.

I genuinely think the squad and coach are on the same page now.
 
@Tony33 said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
The mates thing is overblown imo. They're professionals. There's a saying in sport, you can make friends, or you can make money. If the circumstances are right to leave, it will take more than mateship to persuade them to stay.

Well we've already overcome our first challenge, with teddy choosing to make friends rather then money. Considering Brooks and Moses probably won't be offered the money Teddy was, I can't see why they won't make the same decision given the circumstances are right for them to stay

If that were true he'd never have signed with Canberra in the first place and the saga wouldn't have been so long and drawn out. He was under the impression that Mansour, Ennis and Proctor would follow suit and sign with Canberra as well. They didn't, they all signed elsewhere and he was left like a shag on a rock.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@Tony33 said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
The mates thing is overblown imo. They're professionals. There's a saying in sport, you can make friends, or you can make money. If the circumstances are right to leave, it will take more than mateship to persuade them to stay.

Well we've already overcome our first challenge, with teddy choosing to make friends rather then money. Considering Brooks and Moses probably won't be offered the money Teddy was, I can't see why they won't make the same decision given the circumstances are right for them to stay

If that were true he'd never have signed with Canberra in the first place and the saga wouldn't have been so long and drawn out. He was under the impression that Mansour, Ennis and Proctor would follow suit and sign with Canberra as well. They didn't, they all signed elsewhere and he was left like a shag on a rock.

And here i thought he just wanted to play with his mates and his junior club. Should've known you knew better the man himself :crazy

"It's tough to leave the place where you came through with your footy"

"It's about playing with your mates, where you're most happy and where you think your footy will most benefit.''

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/james-tedesco-not-fazed-by-canberra-raiders-confrontation-20140622-zshus.html
 
I am confident that wests-tigers will finish higher on the ladder than least season.
They will have some great games, and of course some shockers.

I do think a lot of opponents will treat them lightly, and wests-tigers will be the surprise team of 2016.
 
@Tony33 said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
@Tony33 said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
The mates thing is overblown imo. They're professionals. There's a saying in sport, you can make friends, or you can make money. If the circumstances are right to leave, it will take more than mateship to persuade them to stay.

Well we've already overcome our first challenge, with teddy choosing to make friends rather then money. Considering Brooks and Moses probably won't be offered the money Teddy was, I can't see why they won't make the same decision given the circumstances are right for them to stay

If that were true he'd never have signed with Canberra in the first place and the saga wouldn't have been so long and drawn out. He was under the impression that Mansour, Ennis and Proctor would follow suit and sign with Canberra as well. They didn't, they all signed elsewhere and he was left like a shag on a rock.

And here i thought he just wanted to play with his mates and his junior club. Should've known you knew better the man himself :crazy

"It's tough to leave the place where you came through with your footy"

"It's about playing with your mates, where you're most happy and where you think your footy will most benefit.''

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/james-tedesco-not-fazed-by-canberra-raiders-confrontation-20140622-zshus.html

So why did he sign with Canberra in the first place for then? Obviously wasn't thinking about his mates when he signed the initial contract was he
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@Tony33 said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
@Tony33 said:
Well we've already overcome our first challenge, with teddy choosing to make friends rather then money. Considering Brooks and Moses probably won't be offered the money Teddy was, I can't see why they won't make the same decision given the circumstances are right for them to stay

If that were true he'd never have signed with Canberra in the first place and the saga wouldn't have been so long and drawn out. He was under the impression that Mansour, Ennis and Proctor would follow suit and sign with Canberra as well. They didn't, they all signed elsewhere and he was left like a shag on a rock.

And here i thought he just wanted to play with his mates and his junior club. Should've known you knew better the man himself :crazy

"It's tough to leave the place where you came through with your footy"

"It's about playing with your mates, where you're most happy and where you think your footy will most benefit.''

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/james-tedesco-not-fazed-by-canberra-raiders-confrontation-20140622-zshus.html

So why did he sign with Canberra in the first place for then? Obviously wasn't thinking about his mates when he signed the initial contract was he

Wowww I can't believe I'm even having this argument.

Why did he back flip for less money then ?

It doesn't matter what he did initially because he recognised that playing with his mates was more important to him then the money and changed his mind accordingly. He recognised he made a mistake and not only back-flipped for less money but risked tarnishing his reputation. So obviously playing with his mates was very important to him.

Mate you don't have to believe me, just read the article above and maybe believe the man himself ? :crazy:
 
@Tony33 said:
[Wowww I can't believe I'm even having this argument.

Why did he back flip for less money then ?

It doesn't matter what he did initially because he recognised that playing with his mates was more important to him then the money and changed his mind accordingly. He recognised he made a mistake and not only back-flipped for less money but risked tarnishing his reputation. So obviously playing with his mates was very important to him.

Mate you don't have to believe me, just read the article above and maybe believe the man himself ? :crazy:

Yes yes, the article, that's the third time you've mentioned it. Would you be expecting him to say he reneged because no one else followed him? How do you think the club and supporters would have reacted if he had said that? Not favorably i wouldn't have thought. Him going on about his mates is pure PR fluff.
 

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