Anyone Like Alex Jones ?

@Yossarian said:
@huggarz said:
@Yossarian said:
You should think about going back to sleep. These guys are just more polished versions of Lyndon La Rouche - they see what they want to see and ignore anything else. But if it floats your boat good luck to you.

What a rediculous comment "they see what they want to see and ignore anything else", I could say the same about you.
Who the hell cares who delivers any information - you always need to do your own thorough research and make a decision as to who benefits and an unbiased decision as to what makes greater sense and why. None of these people have all the answers but they are helping to add peices to the puzzle. If you want to go on being spoonfed by the corporate-controlled mass media then that is your problem.
How much research have you done into the thousands of topics that have anything to do with the NWO? How many books read, movies watched. I'm sure it's zero. Yet you all have all the answers to call it rubbish. You probably have no clue what it is nor ever will.
In the end the people get what they deserve - it's just a shame I have to dragged down there with them.

Well read what you just wrote - why is it that anyone who disagrees you with is ignorant and wrong and doesn't understand the issues? How do you know how much research or how much I've read on any of this?

Why can't someone disagree with your belief system without you resorting to a personal attack? Sounds like you're a fan of this kind of stuff but sorry, when these people seriously suggest 9/11 was part of a US government conspiracy I really start to doubt their credibility.

If reading well researched articles and watching docos that rely on facts not conjecture means "I have no clue" well I guess I'll never understand until the big bad UN knocks on my door and drags me to the stockades. Or is it the Illuminati you're worried about?

Best of luck with your research pal and try debating the issues not attacking the person.

They will drag you out just like the nazis Did in 1938
Or was that just another conspiracy theory, Trust me we are not wack -jobs brother i was just like you 10 months ago with the same comments ,But now its just a new ball game
just open your eyes that little more it will blow your mind..
 
I didn't realise that computer generated movie posters were so deep
 
@chilbury said:
@Yossarian said:
@huggarz said:
What a rediculous comment "they see what they want to see and ignore anything else", I could say the same about you.
Who the hell cares who delivers any information - you always need to do your own thorough research and make a decision as to who benefits and an unbiased decision as to what makes greater sense and why. None of these people have all the answers but they are helping to add peices to the puzzle. If you want to go on being spoonfed by the corporate-controlled mass media then that is your problem.
How much research have you done into the thousands of topics that have anything to do with the NWO? How many books read, movies watched. I'm sure it's zero. Yet you all have all the answers to call it rubbish. You probably have no clue what it is nor ever will.
In the end the people get what they deserve - it's just a shame I have to dragged down there with them.

Well read what you just wrote - why is it that anyone who disagrees you with is ignorant and wrong and doesn't understand the issues? How do you know how much research or how much I've read on any of this?

Why can't someone disagree with your belief system without you resorting to a personal attack? Sounds like you're a fan of this kind of stuff but sorry, when these people seriously suggest 9/11 was part of a US government conspiracy I really start to doubt their credibility.

If reading well researched articles and watching docos that rely on facts not conjecture means "I have no clue" well I guess I'll never understand until the big bad UN knocks on my door and drags me to the stockades. Or is it the Illuminati you're worried about?

Best of luck with your research pal and try debating the issues not attacking the person.

They will drag you out just like the nazis Did in 1938
Or was that just another conspiracy theory, Trust me we are not wack -jobs brother i was just like you 10 months ago with the same comments ,But now its just a new ball game
just open your eyes that little more it will blow your mind..

Nazis didn't drag me out in 1938\. I'm not as old as I look…
 
@alien said:
chilbury what is your stance on gun control?

We should be able to have guns in Australia! In America there are 150 million gun owners 80 million ex Servicemen/women, If the government went crazy and tried to completely take over ,the American Citizens would rise Up ! and take back there country , Its in their Constitution the 2nd amendment " Right to bare Arms" Obamas trying to take that away from them but he wont Win…
Our stupid People of Australia swallowed the lies Howard served up and we lost out Right to bare Arms"
We have no tools left to Fight our Government if they try to become a dictatorship !!
We are a sad Story!!!
 
@Yossarian said:
Well read what you just wrote - why is it that anyone who disagrees you with is ignorant and wrong and doesn't understand the issues? How do you know how much research or how much I've read on any of this?

Why can't someone disagree with your belief system without you resorting to a personal attack? Sounds like you're a fan of this kind of stuff but sorry, when these people seriously suggest 9/11 was part of a US government conspiracy I really start to doubt their credibility.

If reading well researched articles and watching docos that rely on facts not conjecture means "I have no clue" well I guess I'll never understand until the big bad UN knocks on my door and drags me to the stockades. Or is it the Illuminati you're worried about?

Best of luck with your research pal and try debating the issues not attacking the person.

Funny that you mention 9/11\. That was the event that get me asking questions in the first place. To be quite blunt, it is inexcusable to believe that 9/11 was a genuine terrorist attack if you have even spent just a day researching it. The material on this event alone is more abundant and well-researched than any other theory out there. In fact I dare you to think outside the box and give it some attention, you'll come back with many more questions than were answered aswell as many facts that mainstream media outlets did not report to you, in fact I guarantee it.
Yet you probably won't think about it for even a moment, seeing that you will doubt someones credibility whenever the subject is even brought up.
Oh, and don't think that I get off over this stuff. If the events that I think will transpire never do, you won't find me crying that's for sure, it'll be a massive load off my shoulders,(this is my childrens future).
I apologise if my post came across as a personal attack - but it can be very frustrating trying to open people's eyes and get them to look further as people won't see a thing if they don't want to.
 
@huggarz said:
Funny that you mention 9/11\. That was the event that get me asking questions in the first place. To be quite blunt, it is inexcusable to believe that 9/11 was a genuine terrorist attack if you have even spent just a day researching it. The material on this event alone is more abundant and well-researched than any other theory out there. In fact I dare you to think outside the box and give it some attention, you'll come back with many more questions than were answered aswell as many facts that mainstream media outlets did not report to you, in fact I guarantee it.

What do you think happened?
 
@chilbury said:
@alien said:
chilbury what is your stance on gun control?

We should be able to have guns in Australia! In America there are 150 million gun owners 80 million ex Servicemen/women, If the government went crazy and tried to completely take over ,the American Citizens would rise Up ! and take back there country , Its in their Constitution the 2nd amendment " Right to bare Arms" Obamas trying to take that away from them but he wont Win…
Our stupid People of Australia swallowed the lies Howard served up and we lost out Right to bare Arms"
We have no tools left to Fight our Government if they try to become a dictatorship !!
We are a sad Story!!!

You can still own pistols, shotguns, rifles in NSW but you have to fill out a firearms licence form, do a short safety course, and join a target shooting club.
 
@chilbury said:
@alien said:
chilbury what is your stance on gun control?

We should be able to have guns in Australia! In America there are 150 million gun owners 80 million ex Servicemen/women, If the government went crazy and tried to completely take over ,the American Citizens would rise Up ! and take back there country , Its in their Constitution the 2nd amendment " Right to bare Arms" Obamas trying to take that away from them but he wont Win…
Our stupid People of Australia swallowed the lies Howard served up and we lost out Right to bare Arms"
We have no tools left to Fight our Government if they try to become a dictatorship !!
We are a sad Story!!!

Never had a Bill of Rights so never had the Right to bear arms actually.

In actuality a Bill of Rights serves more to limit than to grant rights
 
@smeghead said:
@chilbury said:
@alien said:
chilbury what is your stance on gun control?

We should be able to have guns in Australia! In America there are 150 million gun owners 80 million ex Servicemen/women, If the government went crazy and tried to completely take over ,the American Citizens would rise Up ! and take back there country , Its in their Constitution the 2nd amendment " Right to bare Arms" Obamas trying to take that away from them but he wont Win…
Our stupid People of Australia swallowed the lies Howard served up and we lost out Right to bare Arms"
We have no tools left to Fight our Government if they try to become a dictatorship !!
We are a sad Story!!!

Never had a Bill of Rights so never had the Right to bear arms actually.

In actuality a Bill of Rights serves more to limit than to grant rights

Smeg watch this video on Our Constitution http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8b8v9mHARc
 
No need as I studied the constitution in detail already as part of my degree.

I laughed when that video stated that the constitution was the rule of law which is patently incorrect
 
@smeghead said:
No need as I studied the constitution in detail already as part of my degree.

I laughed when that video stated that the constitution was the rule of law which is patently incorrect

Errr dude it was and still is its just been back doored for the last 30 years
It seems you only studied what they wanted you to study .
I will say you go back and study again. :laughing:
 
The concept of Rule of Law is completely seperate from our constitution.

The rule of law exists in countries without constituions.

The rule of law is a cornerstone of justice, the constitution is a framework that exists under that.

Than again according to Mr Jones I am one of the conspirators :laughing:
 
@smeghead said:
No need as I studied the constitution in detail already as part of my degree.

I laughed when that video stated that the constitution was the rule of law which is patently incorrect

The judicature
This brings us to Chapter III, on the judiciary. Read Sections 71 and 72\. One of the basic principles of our system of government is the independence of the judiciary, i.e. its independence in relation to the Government and in relation to Parliament (subject to 72(ii)). Section 71 ("shall be vested") means that the High Court cannot be abolished by Parliament (though other federal courts can be). Section 72(ii) means that the Government cannot remove a judge except by persuading Parliament that there is proved misbehaviour or incapacity. Section 72(iii) is to make sure that the Government or Parliament cannot punish a judge financially for decisions it does not like. The independence of the judiciary is necessary to ""the rule of law"", i.e. to ensure that the Government itself acts in accordance with the law.
http://www.humanities.mq.edu.au/Ockham/1stRd.html
 
The refference you have cited merely proves my point.

The constitution is a framework under the rule of law. It defines the separation of powers which upholds the rule of law however the rule of law exists without it
 
@smeghead said:
The concept of Rule of Law is completely seperate from our constitution.

The rule of law exists in countries without constituions.

The rule of law is a cornerstone of justice, the constitution is a framework that exists under that.

Than again according to Mr Jones I am one of the conspirators :laughing:

Clause 5 of the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act also reflected the" rule of law" in this aspect of restriction in that everyone is under The Constitution. Anyway moving on lol
 
Yes it does, which again reinforces that the Constitution is a framework under the rule of law and not in itself the rule of law.

Clause 5 is ,in part, the adoption of the Statute of Westminster (In itself one of the oldest frameworks under the rule of law)

It may seem a petty distinction but it really is a major distinction
 
@smeghead said:
Yes it does, which again reinforces that the Constitution is a framework under the rule of law and not in itself the rule of law.

Clause 5 is ,in part, the adoption of the Statute of Westminster (In itself one of the oldest frameworks under the rule of law)

It may seem a petty distinction but it really is a major distinction

Ok what about the rest of the video?
 

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