Are our tactics half our destruction?

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hadds75

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I was just wondering if our game plan has a lot to do with alot of our downfalls.

Everyone rates our forward pack as individuals. I mean Galloway, Fifita, Heighno, Ellis, Dwyer - theres alot of good players there, but why cant a pack containing this list of players make any metres or get any roll on? Does it have to do with the fact every hitup has to come off 2 passes and the opposition defence is racing up? Would we make alot more metres if Fifita just got the ball straight off the dummy half and was just told to "run straight" (simple i know)…... Or the fact every time heighno takes a hitup he runs into the markers? without some of these tactics would our forwards get run over the top of most weeks?

Another serious issue... kicking game. While I dont rate it at all, does the fact we have to go two passes wide before kicking just put added pressure (while giving there back 3 more time to position themselves). Is our kicking game that bad or does this contribute to it?
 
Much of the reason heighno gets hit by markers is because they like to target the area behind play the ball and tire out forwards..
The idea of the two pass then kick is to prevent the opposition winger dropping back early/too far hence creating more space for the kick…
Our kicking game can be ordinary because our go forward at times isn't good enough which IMO comes back to the fact wade rarely catches ball on full, hence he chases it hence our forwards need to run further to get back and make hit ups, this equates to less go forward...
I think the tactics are correct, it just comes down to execution..
Hopefully with wade gone this week we catch a few more balls on the full
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The best we looked this season was when Miller was playing dummy half and Farah was halfback. Our speed improved ten fold, option runners were all raring to go and the decision making improved ten fold. Miller was simply feeding the ball to the options and not overplaying his hand. So imo, Farah needs to give the halves earlier ball and simplify.
 
This is true but the two line breaks farah created in putting Ellis and lui in holes was due to some fine hole running, ie, good execution from both ball player and runner, more of that and we will win games
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I believe we are getting beat cause we are hopeless under pressure, if you have a good kicking game you will constantly have us working out of our 20, cause we jog back, will drop the ball or make 20m the whole set. Followed by the worst kick in the comp.
This is why sheens is whinging about the ruck cause we arnt gettin the quick play the balls and penaltys to get us up the feild like last yr.
 
@tigerlogic said:
Much of the reason heighno gets hit by markers is because they like to target the area behind play the ball and tire out forwards..
The idea of the two pass then kick is to prevent the opposition winger dropping back early/too far hence creating more space for the kick…
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I understand both the logics but regarding the kick it just doesnt work. The wingers always drop back anyway and they end up just being in great position and we end up kicking it straigh tot them with no pressure.

And running at the markers just doesnt work cause even if the marker just gets you , or you run over him, you still make less metres than you would in a regular hitup.
 
Don't get me wrong I get frustrated with it too, I wish we had a better kicking game, I was just justifying y they do it incase ppl were unsure
I gues because they have had success in the past (prior) '11 they are sticking with it cos they know it works..
If there ruck speed improved it would be much more effective..
But regardless, we need our kickers need to start putting the ball in the right areas…
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@happy tiger said:
Our kicking game is at the root of all of our problems Fix that and we will go a long way to fixing our problems
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Our kicking game has been terrible for some years now. Maybe since Prince left, we have had an ordinary kicking game. Don't we have a kicking coach?
 
Hopefully with wade gone this week we catch a few more balls on the full
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do you think the ace FB Moltzen will catch everything o the full ? I hope so..but I doubt it on past performances.
 
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