As supporters

[Tiger_heart]

I am reminded of the story of the 3little pigs (no pun intended about our forwards..). We huff and puff but it does not blow the house down. On the other hand, for those that follow the round ball game, in the EPL, fans power through social media was enough to prevent a new coach being appointed. Makes me think in the end what we say is no more than venting frustrations at a club that is all too keen to get our money, yet gets away with zero accountability, at both the management and player level. A story that has now become a standard joke in the NRL. In fact, i wonder how much the media will feast on this latest embarrassment. The comments made from Tamou about "underlying issues" will give them plenty to speculate on. Frankly, the other comments, to me, smack of a team that is in denial. Is there a solution? I don't know, I am not being paid to make these sort of calls. But as a supporter, I have a right to understand what is going on, at any level, and for this club to come clean on what the issues are. Keeping us in the dark will only add to speculations, weakening of the club, and possibly down a spiral from which the only way out is to dismantle the joint and start somewhere else. The cliches we've been fed to date have now become routine comments, lacking any real belief, hope and commitment to turn things around. We, the fans, deserve answers. Now.

 

[steve-o]

The last thing the club should be doing is making decisions based on the court of public opinion / pressure from News Ltd. The board needs to block out the noise, avoid rash decisions, and take the best course of action for the club.

 

[steve-o]

If the Board always listened to the fans there would be knee jerk reactions left, right and centre. The fans do not always know what is best for the club. The fans should be taken into consideration, but we’d be in an even bigger hole if every decision was made by the fan base.

 

[krissy]

A huge part of our problem is the board and their ability to block out the noise.
Personally I have zero faith in the board to make the right decisions for the club and I am pretty sure I am not alone in that view.

 

[gallagher]

The last thing the club should be doing is making decisions based on the court of public opinion / pressure from News Ltd. The board needs to block out the noise, avoid rash decisions, and take the best course of action for the club.

I have a feeling the noise from news ltd saved Madge after the Manly embarrassment.
You have too much faith in that mob.

 

[hobbo1]

The last thing the club should be doing is making decisions based on the court of public opinion / pressure from News Ltd. The board needs to block out the noise, avoid rash decisions, and take the best course of action for the club.

They should take the fans into consideration at all times.

And we as fans, must stick together in these bad times.
It's not our fault the club is so bad.

Seeing @pawsandclaws1 and @Russell fighting breaks my heart. We're all on the same team. All this in fighting just fractures us even more.

The guys at the top are letting us down but we, have to stick solid and hold tight... we will battle this storm and hopefully see some positives down the track.

We aren't the team.
But we are a team.

Wests Tigers Fans.
Best looking fanbase in the comp.
Let's be nice to each other lads!
And JOIN THE DISCORD.

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[steve-o]

The last thing the club should be doing is making decisions based on the court of public opinion / pressure from News Ltd. The board needs to block out the noise, avoid rash decisions, and take the best course of action for the club.

I have a feeling the noise from news ltd saved Madge after the Manly embarrassment.
You have too much faith in that mob.

I don’t understand. What mob? News Ltd? If the club have made a conscious decision to avoid being pressured by the News Ltd outrage machine, then I fully support and applaud that decision.

 

[Snake]

A huge part of our problem is the board and their ability to block out the noise.
Personally I have zero faith in the board to make the right decisions for the club and I am pretty sure I am not alone in that view.

WOW the best post of the day so far ...these are the same people that do not know what a home means !
The same variables have been in place for the decade of failure as coaches and players have been rotated at a constant rate .
You want to know where the problem lies it isn't hard to see where the focus should be !

 

[gallagher]

The last thing the club should be doing is making decisions based on the court of public opinion / pressure from News Ltd. The board needs to block out the noise, avoid rash decisions, and take the best course of action for the club.

I have a feeling the noise from news ltd saved Madge after the Manly embarrassment.
You have too much faith in that mob.

I don’t understand. What mob? News Ltd? If the club have made a conscious decision to avoid being pressured by the News Ltd outrage machine, then I fully support and applaud that decision.

No, the board. What exactly had the board done that gives you confidence?
The didn't sack Madge after the Manly game to avoid the news outrage.

 

[steve-o]

The last thing the club should be doing is making decisions based on the court of public opinion / pressure from News Ltd. The board needs to block out the noise, avoid rash decisions, and take the best course of action for the club.

I have a feeling the noise from news ltd saved Madge after the Manly embarrassment.
You have too much faith in that mob.

I don’t understand. What mob? News Ltd? If the club have made a conscious decision to avoid being pressured by the News Ltd outrage machine, then I fully support and applaud that decision.

No, the board. What exactly had the board done that gives you confidence?
The didn't sack Madge after the Manly game to avoid the news outrage.

Who said I had confidence in the board? All I’ve said is I don’t want the board making decisions based on public opinion / a News Ltd headline. The usual scenario is the sensationalism comes before a head coach is sacked… “Tigers are hopeless, need a new direction, sack the coach” etc. The board gives into the pressure, News reports the drama of a coach getting sacked, covers the search for a new coach, and marvels at their ability to affect board decisions. That is exactly what I do not want - board decisions should be independent of outside noise.

 

[innsaneink]

A huge part of our problem is the board and their ability to block out the noise.
Personally I have zero faith in the board to make the right decisions for the club and I am pretty sure I am not alone in that view.

I'm of the opinion we survive merely because we are a part of the business that's the NRL... we make them millions... We're a cog in a business machine... Board members on the gravy train get their perks regardless of how much the RL community laugh and throw disdain at us

We are a joke

There's serious serious problems at our club but it's swept away after a few minutes discussion... Media aren't interested in losers but they have to touch on us occasionally

Whats the underlying issues Tamous touched on?

 

[Tiger_heart]

To be clear..this isn't about fans *dictating* what the club needs to do. It's about the club acting in a manner that has the interest of the fans at its core.

 

[steve-o]

To be clear..this isn't about fans *dictating* what the club needs to do. It's about the club acting in a manner that has the interest of the fans at its core.

What’s the evidence that they’re not acting in our best interest?

 

[tigerbalm]

A huge part of our problem is the board and their ability to block out the noise.
Personally I have zero faith in the board to make the right decisions for the club and I am pretty sure I am not alone in that view.

I'm of the opinion we survive merely because we are a part of the business that's the NRL... we make them millions... We're a cog in a business machine... Board members on the gravy train get their perks regardless of how much the RL community laugh and throw disdain at us

We are a joke

There's serious serious problems at our club but it's swept away after a few minutes discussion... Media aren't interested in losers but they have to touch on us occasionally

Whats the underlying issues Tamous touched on?

100000000%

I watched the after game shows last night and one thing that stuck with me is one of the talking heads said Wests should be in the business of winning premierships.

This club is not in that business.

 

[Tiger_heart]

To be clear..this isn't about fans *dictating* what the club needs to do. It's about the club acting in a manner that has the interest of the fans at its core.

What’s the evidence that they’re not acting in our best interest?

Well, 3 different home grounds, for a start...

 

[steve-o]

To be clear..this isn't about fans *dictating* what the club needs to do. It's about the club acting in a manner that has the interest of the fans at its core.

What’s the evidence that they’re not acting in our best interest?

Well, 3 different home grounds, for a start...

I don’t think there’s a simple solution though? If the state government built a 30,000 seat stadium at Homebush (or went through with the planned refurbishment of ANZ that would’ve made it more suitable for smaller crowds), then I could see that as a possible solution. But as stadiums are currently arranged, I don’t see an obvious choice for only one home ground.

 

[cochise]

To be clear..this isn't about fans *dictating* what the club needs to do. It's about the club acting in a manner that has the interest of the fans at its core.

What’s the evidence that they’re not acting in our best interest?

Well, 3 different home grounds, for a start...

I don’t think there’s a simple solution though? If the state government built a 30,000 seat stadium at Homebush (or went through with the planned refurbishment of ANZ that would’ve made it more suitable for smaller crowds), then I could see that as a possible solution. But as stadiums are currently arranged, I don’t see an obvious choice for only one home ground.

That is the biggest issue for 1 home ground

 

[dazza65]

No confidence what so ever in the board…..should all be booted, most, not all, of them presided over the abomination of the last 10 years

Typical “who you know” rubbish board made up of lawyers, real estate agents and insurance shonks - add a used car salesman and we would really have the ideal mix…..not

I myself, as a AICD board trained and experienced director can see/know two things:

The board is responsible for the overall governance, management and strategic direction of the organisation and for delivering accountable corporate performance in accordance with the organisation’s goals and objectives.

I would argue that they have met the financial performance objectives but failed miserably in the one major objective- fielding a competitive football team. At its core that’s what we are, financial performance is a means to an end not the goal.

And a really accurate saying that has proven to be true many many times “a fish rots from the head down. When an organisation fails, it is the leadership that is the root cause” and I don’t mean middle management like Coaches and support staff.

Accountability starts at the top and the answer is not a continual shuffling of coaching deck chairs on the Titanic.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I'm numb to it now. The last 10 years have broken my spirit in terms of getting upset at poor performance. It's par for the course now.

I will keep watching and supporting in the hope we are competitive again soon, because any future glory will be so much sweeter after such lean years.

 

[rihannafan1]

The last thing the club should be doing is making decisions based on the court of public opinion / pressure from News Ltd. The board needs to block out the noise, avoid rash decisions, and take the best course of action for the club.

They should take the fans into consideration at all times.

And we as fans, must stick together in these bad times.
It's not our fault the club is so bad.

Seeing @pawsandclaws1 and @Russell fighting breaks my heart. We're all on the same team. All this in fighting just fractures us even more.

The guys at the top are letting us down but we, have to stick solid and hold tight... we will battle this storm and hopefully see some positives down the track.

We aren't the team.
But we are a team.

Wests Tigers Fans.
Best looking fanbase in the comp.
Let's be nice to each other lads!
And JOIN THE DISCORD.

lol let's all stay together AND DO IT SOMEWHERE DIFFERENT THAN THE PLACE WE ALL MET