Benji Marshall

You guys are pathetic are you even watching the game or just getting updates on twitter? 26 missed tackles in the first half. Our defense was no where how do u expect him to do anything when we are coming off out goal line most the game.

Our defense is pathetic and not FG standard. put johns or lockyear in this team results would be the same. Pathetic defense. I'm not just talking missed tackles. They Arent putting in plain and simple.
 
@paulgeorge said:
I would like to get $600,000 a season and do nothing for my pay check. We will at the bottom of the ladder next season.

You are a peanut he is ranked second in try assists and linebreak assists this year. If he is doing nothing show me the guys doing something
 
@smoking gun said:
You guys are pathetic are you even watching the game or just getting updates on twitter? 26 missed tackles in the first half. Our defense was no where how do u expect him to do anything when we are coming off out goal line most the game.

Our defense is pathetic and not FG standard. put johns or lockyear in this team results would be the same. Pathetic defense. I'm not just talking missed tackles. They Arent putting in plain and simple.

so where is the problem for our pathetic performances ,who picks our roster , who selects our team.we have players who are not up to first grade standard,our was ok for 15 minutes or so usually when we make our first interchange.
i love it how a poster can call fellow fans PATHETIC and a PEANUT and thats cool but when we have an opinion on why the team is going bad it gets deleted .Benji may have good attacking stats , but like i said in another post , show me his defence stats.
 
1/4 - problem is simple. It's defense. Our structures are poor. And I'll say this.. Our "experienced" side on defense was the one where most the breaks and indents were made. Ayshford was pathetic Blair and iosefa were pathetic. It's no coincidence that our defense and fitness in games has dropped this year with folkes departure.

Dragons for as pathetic as they are still are the 4th best defense in the league, something we were last year… No coincidence the common link yeah??

We are ineffective in tackles. Lots of arm tacklers in our team. Our line gets pushed back for the majority of games. We are the WORST team in the Nrl for meters conceded this year
 
@1/4 chicken said:
@hellman said:
He was better than Robbie was.

now that wouldnt be hard seeing our coach has moved the origin hooker to a position he has never played well in .
Still scratching my head on that masterstroke by Sheens , and see what 6 weeks with another coach has done to Robbie . its not rocket science rugby league, play your players in their best positions .

I agree that Robbie should have stayed at hooker. I thought Benji last week was terrible but this week I thought he put in and I can't crucify him for that.

He ran the ball and gave it a shot. His defence was okay as well. Not a great performance but not terrible.

I don't think that either Robbie or Benji were the problem out there today.
 
@1/4 chicken said:
@smoking gun said:
You guys are pathetic are you even watching the game or just getting updates on twitter? 26 missed tackles in the first half. Our defense was no where how do u expect him to do anything when we are coming off out goal line most the game.

Our defense is pathetic and not FG standard. put johns or lockyear in this team results would be the same. Pathetic defense. I'm not just talking missed tackles. They Arent putting in plain and simple.

so where is the problem for our pathetic performances ,who picks our roster , who selects our team.we have players who are not up to first grade standard,our was ok for 15 minutes or so usually when we make our first interchange.
i love it how a poster can call fellow fans PATHETIC and a PEANUT and thats cool but when we have an opinion on why the team is going bad it gets deleted .Benji may have good attacking stats , but like i said in another post , show me his defence stats.

very true 1/4 chicken.
smoking gun 26 missed tackles in the first half,would of love to know how many mr superstar contributed to that..
early in the first half,we are attacking the try line,benji goes for a miricle kick in behind the defenders,ON THE 3RD TACKLE :crazy .doesnt come off,misses the ensuing tackle ,souths go 60 meters ,and score of the next tackle,oh yeah who missed the tackle,benji and blair
thats enough for me….........
 
@smoking gun said:
1/4 - problem is simple. It's defense. Our structures are poor. And I'll say this.. Our "experienced" side on defense was the one where most the breaks and indents were made. Ayshford was pathetic Blair and iosefa were pathetic. It's no coincidence that our defense and fitness in games has dropped this year with folkes departure.

Dragons for as pathetic as they are still are the 4th best defense in the league, something we were last year… No coincidence the common link yeah??

We are ineffective in tackles. Lots of arm tacklers in our team. Our line gets pushed back for the majority of games. We are the WORST team in the Nrl for meters conceded this year

It's not just defence, it is also attack, we offer nothing in attack and arm grabs in defence, noone will put their body on the line. Fully agree with you about Blair and Iosefa, hopeless.
 
Today performance was more embarrassing then when we got 50 put on us back to back in 04\. Atleast we had excuses back then. This team is gutless.
 
Today performance was more embarrassing then when we got 50 put on us back to back in 04\. Atleast we had excuses back then. This team is gutless.
 
@Muffstar said:
It's not just defence, it is also attack, we offer nothing in attack

I think that this is most of the problem. We don't threaten the opposition so they get to relax. Then when we have to defend they are raring to go and we have nothing.
 
@hellman said:
@1/4 chicken said:
@hellman said:
He was better than Robbie was.

now that wouldnt be hard seeing our coach has moved the origin hooker to a position he has never played well in .
Still scratching my head on that masterstroke by Sheens , and see what 6 weeks with another coach has done to Robbie . its not rocket science rugby league, play your players in their best positions .

I agree that Robbie should have stayed at hooker. I thought Benji last week was terrible but this week I thought he put in and I can't crucify him for that.

He ran the ball and gave it a shot. His defence was okay as well. Not a great performance but not terrible.

I don't think that either Robbie or Benji were the problem out there today.

If you think Benjis game was anything but terrible then you are seriously delusional and you need to see a doctor asap.
 
@smoking gun said:
1/4 - problem is simple. It's defense. Our structures are poor. And I'll say this.. Our "experienced" side on defense was the one where most the breaks and indents were made. Ayshford was pathetic Blair and iosefa were pathetic. It's no coincidence that our defense and fitness in games has dropped this year with folkes departure.

Dragons for as pathetic as they are still are the 4th best defense in the league, something we were last year… No coincidence the common link yeah??

We are ineffective in tackles. Lots of arm tacklers in our team. Our line gets pushed back for the majority of games. We are the WORST team in the Nrl for meters conceded this year

i agree with the common link.but alot of ppl reckon he didnt have much to do with our defence those last 2 years,bull crap. :crazy :crazy :crazy :crazy
i got to defend ayshford today,maybe his attack was poor coz of the work he did in defence,like i said in another post it would of be at least 50 points put on us if he wasnt out there,made so many try saving tackles
 
"he ran the ball and gave it a shot" - sideways doesnt count… if he runs backwards over our own dead ball line are you still pleased he is running? It has the same result!

Benji needs a footballer inside of him. At the moment, what benji wants benji gets and it is killing him and us! If we were coached by Wayne Bennett, Benji would get hooked after the number of brain farts he has...

Its all there on the tape. We are down by 30, 1 minute to go and the guy kicks on the first tackle... He has no discipline and benji needs a coach with enough balls to belt it into him!
 
Yep, Tigers are woeful at the moment and one of the main reasons Marshall is being exposed as a dud is basically playing out of position and lack of strike players like Lote and Lawrence who have half an idea of how Marshall will improvise. How many times do you see also, Marshall waving his forwards to go inside/drift outside….there's also no understanding from the forwards of what they are expected to do, so when they do get it, they are flat footed and easy targets. Fulton is only back rower who understands what lines to run when Marshall has it...
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usual benji 1 week good 3 weeks bad….he needs to wake up and start playing consistent footy...hes getting paid enough.For the money he is getting he is well below what should be expected of him.

Lawrence has done nothing all year so he wouldnt have made a difference
 
Steve Folkes that what we are missing Steve Folkes

As for Benji thought he tried hard all day was looking for runners and no one ran onto the ball- He ran the ball more the he has but its not his fault if no one runs off him or runs forward- Those saying Benji was the problem today can just accept right here right now that they no very little about football

He was the only one looking dangerous

In defence he wasnt great but he is a half he wont ever be perfect in defence - our forwards were dissapointing lead by Ellis, Blair, Fulton all struggling in defence

Iosefa was horrible in defence which was dissapointing because he has looked good in attack

As above I though Ayshford was on of our better players today - probably only Woods, Utai and mayby Beau were better

Our bench was woeful - Moors, Cashmere arent up to this level (which isa why we have signed Pettybourne and Thompson I guess)
 
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