OFFICIAL Blake Austin [Discussion]

[happy_tiger]

The thing I fear in this is if we deny Austin a release and he misses out on doubling, or tripling his income elsewhere, how happy is he going to be at the Tigers next season? He could well spit the dummy and play the season out in State Cup which benefits no one.

Personally I'd give him the release.

If he wants to have a dummy spit he can spend the season as 19th man for RMC

This is what we need to do , stop pussyfooting around these blokes and show them whose boss

I can't see Austin like that , he seems to be made of sterner stuff

 

[Tigers4ever]

Any more news on Blake?…..hope we keep the Champ!!!

 

[dazza65]

Another way to look at it and maybe I would do this…... If I was on second tier and played a blinder of a season.....even if I wanted to stay, I would ask my manager to start the conversation, put the feelers out, get some nibbles and see if I could get the WT's to upgrade and extend my contract ..... Just saying.

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[balmain boy]

The NRL is set to investigate St George Illawarra's claims that a rival club approached Brett Morris despite the winger being contracted to the Dragons for 2015.
The Dragons released a statement earlier this week accusing another club of enticing Morris to break his contract after Fairfax Media revealed the Test flyer had sought a release from the final year of his deal to join twin brother Josh at the Bulldogs next season.
Part of St George Illawarra's statement read that the Dragons: "are aware that another club has offered Brett Morris more money than his contract sum at the Dragons for the 2015 season". The Dragons also said there were "no rules that prevent player managers from talking to other clubs about contracted players".
While rival clubs are allowed to negotiate with Morris for the 2016 season, they are not able to entice him to break his contract a year early.
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An NRL spokesman said they had "noted" the Dragons statement. "We are making inquiries with the Dragons to determine whether the matter needs to be taken any further," a NRL spokesman said.
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And this is why the Raiders can't have offered Austin anything for the 2015 season. It's against the rules. The Dogs can't have spoken to Morris about 2015, only 2016, likewise with Austin and Canberra. If they have the manager and club can get severely punished. So either it's all BS and just Austin's manager talking out his arse to try get him a better deal (most likely scenario) or people are going to get fined and suspended.

I mean how hard is it to imply to a journalist that Canberra are offering someone a lot of money to join them? Any journo would believe that and spill it out in countless articles.

 

[supercoach]

You live in fairy world if you think managers, players and clubs actually play by the rules!!!!! Their is horse trading going on all the time, if you waited till it was legal "duck season" you would more than likely miss the boat. A lot of it is just a casual feeler to see if a player is interested, but it is happening all the time.

 

[cqtiger]

The NRL is set to investigate St George Illawarra's claims that a rival club approached Brett Morris despite the winger being contracted to the Dragons for 2015.
The Dragons released a statement earlier this week accusing another club of enticing Morris to break his contract after Fairfax Media revealed the Test flyer had sought a release from the final year of his deal to join twin brother Josh at the Bulldogs next season.
Part of St George Illawarra's statement read that the Dragons: "are aware that another club has offered Brett Morris more money than his contract sum at the Dragons for the 2015 season". The Dragons also said there were "no rules that prevent player managers from talking to other clubs about contracted players".
While rival clubs are allowed to negotiate with Morris for the 2016 season, they are not able to entice him to break his contract a year early.
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An NRL spokesman said they had "noted" the Dragons statement. "We are making inquiries with the Dragons to determine whether the matter needs to be taken any further," a NRL spokesman said.
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Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/st-george-illawarra-dragons/st-george-illawarra-dragons-winger-brett-morris-mooted-canterbury-bulldogs-deal-under-investigation-20140918-10inbc.html#ixzz3DjWS8c00

And this is why the Raiders can't have offered Austin anything for the 2015 season. It's against the rules. The Dogs can't have spoken to Morris about 2015, only 2016, likewise with Austin and Canberra. If they have the manager and club can get severely punished. So either it's all BS and just Austin's manager talking out his arse to try get him a better deal (most likely scenario) or people are going to get fined and suspended.

I mean how hard is it to imply to a journalist that Canberra are offering someone a lot of money to join them? Any journo would believe that and spill it out in countless articles.

I can see the bulldogs and Dessie sitting down and talking about signing the other Morris twin.
Bulldogs: if we get caught we will get fined for breaking salary cap rules.
Des: we are offering him $500k a season for 3 years and you worry about a $20k fine?

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[tig_prmz]

the release will be granted on compassionate grounds. they shared the womb together so they have to share the jumper as well.

lol clubs like dogs have no ethics or moral codes. they get what they want.

 

[jirskyr]

The thing I fear in this is if we deny Austin a release and he misses out on doubling, or tripling his income elsewhere, how happy is he going to be at the Tigers next season? He could well spit the dummy and play the season out in State Cup which benefits no one.

Personally I'd give him the release.

My thoughts too, but it's not even about Austin being a dummy spitter, he doesn't seem like that kind of guy.

It's more the point that if you enforce a contract and the person doesn't want to be there, you will never get 100% out of them, even if they don't totally tank the year. It's human nature that you don't tend to thrive in an environment you don't want.

 

[balmain boy]

The thing I fear in this is if we deny Austin a release and he misses out on doubling, or tripling his income elsewhere, how happy is he going to be at the Tigers next season? He could well spit the dummy and play the season out in State Cup which benefits no one.

Personally I'd give him the release.

My thoughts too, but it's not even about Austin being a dummy spitter, he doesn't seem like that kind of guy.

It's more the point that if you enforce a contract and the person doesn't want to be there, you will never get 100% out of them, even if they don't totally tank the year. It's human nature that you don't tend to thrive in an environment you don't want.

Not if you make it clear they're wanted. Look at Hoffman this season as an example. Publicly said he wanted to move, Broncos said no, had a great season. Milford and Matai are just 2 other lesser examples from this season i can think of too. It happens all the time, real clubs don't just let their stars go unless it's very serious and compassionate grounds, or if they literally have no use for them in the coming season.

He has to wait til he has a coach to ask a release from before he can do anything anyway…!

 

[851]

The club are waiting for the new coach to be appointed,it will be his call on whether Blake gets a release to join team Sticky or not.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Even if he does stay, he probably won't stay beyond 2015 if he has the same kind of roaming role he had this yr. He probably feels entitled to lock down a position, and after the yr he's had you can't blame him.

 

[supercoach]

Even if he does stay, he probably won't stay beyond 2015 if he has the same kind of roaming role he had this yr. He probably feels entitled to lock down a position, and after the yr he's had you can't blame him.

Agreed, but we badly need him for at least one more year as insurance for Brooks Mosses and Teddy. I would give him a upgraded contract, mainly to keep him happy, even if it is for a year and by 2016 we should be in a better position either to extend his deal or let him walk, dependent on our needs.

Although I know how he must feel, being offered a very good long term deal at the Raiders would be hard to knock back and anything can happen in 12months. So I can see why he wants a release

 

[Sabre]

FWIW, Blake Austin posted this on his Instagram account today.


 

[Tigers4ever]

Really hope we keep Blake…..any more news?

 

[Irvine]

I don't feel like going to work anymore.
I wonder if I can break my contract for more money elsewhere.

Any suggestions ? (no toilet humour)

 

[Cosimo_Zaretti]

Agreed, but we badly need him for at least one more year as insurance for Brooks Mosses and Teddy. I would give him a upgraded contract, mainly to keep him happy, even if it is for a year and by 2016 we should be in a better position either to extend his deal or let him walk, dependent on our needs.

But who wants to be kept on as "insurance"? Austin's had a good season and played hard in every position but prop, but on paper he doesn't make the starting 17.. Why would he stick around to play NSW cup in between utility appearances in the NRL side?

 

[TrueTiger]

@Irvine,I don't think Blake will go anywhere unless he asks the new coach for a release,but understands he has a year to go on his contract,I think he will dig in and fulfil the one year left if he is refused.He is in my opinion professional enough to know the rules regarding releases ..let's hope he stays or if he goes good luck to him ….. :smiley: :smiley: :sign:

 

[methods]

From what I have been reading which goes along with what Austin has said, that he wants to be the 6.

I think it has just come to the point where Austin may not be as prepared as he once was to be shifted around. That and the club ear marking the 6 for Moses, is incompatible.re

I wouldn't want Austin to stay under those circumstances as he deserves a position and it wouldn't feel right to me to force him to keep getting stuffed around for another season to hold a position for an unknown NRL comp quantity.

So I am happy for the club to let him go.

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[cktiger]

Agreed, but we badly need him for at least one more year as insurance for Brooks Mosses and Teddy. I would give him a upgraded contract, mainly to keep him happy, even if it is for a year and by 2016 we should be in a better position either to extend his deal or let him walk, dependent on our needs.

But who wants to be kept on as "insurance"? Austin's had a good season and played hard in every position but prop, but on paper he doesn't make the starting 17.. **Why would he stick around to play NSW cup in between utility appearances in the NRL side?**

Because he signed a contract to do so.

 

[balmain boy]

I wonder if the salary cap will come into this. He's currently on a 2nd tier NSW Cup contract, which is probably why we blew out our 2nd tier cap so quickly this season. Given that he's probably on $50-75k + incentives (for which he would have got a lot last season).

The same pattern will repeat next year and really you shouldn't have someone from the 2nd tier playing 20 odd games in a season. No idea how his contract would be setup but ideally it would be in WT's interests to give him a higher base, fewer incentives and have him in the top 25.

But we still shoudn't be letting him go, unless it comes down to him or TMM in which case Martin wins.