Brown - Injured or dropped???

[hybrid_tiger]

i hope he was simply dropped.
i would grade him c- during his stint here so far

i can't see how i could grade him any higher.

C- why?? because he dropped 1 bomb 😕
He was solid without being a standout.Between Brown & Ryan they gave us good field positioning running out of dummy half.He did what was asked of him.
What else do people want??

so far he has had 2 bombs come his way.parra and cowboys
he fielded neither.
he also missed 2 in the trials.
did he catch any in the trials,because if he didn't then that is 4 bombs and he has come up with nothing.

i'm sure this is why he wasn't named.
notice as soon as brown dropped that bomb fitzy was moved onto the wing in defense.
his dummy half runs have been average.against the eels was his best run and that was because ryan got a quick ptb.

c- in my books
are you grading him higher than a c

I agree with all that, but the problem is that Fitzhenry is no better, in fact he's worse.

Brown was always going to be a poor buy, he couldn't even make regular first grade at the Sharks, and they have the worst backline in the competition by far.

Daniela I will reserve judgement on as I have seen very little of him, but he has one thing in his favour over both Brown and Fitzhenry and that is sheer pace.

 

[ron_burgandy]

people expect all 21 year olds to be like inglis, and thats what alot of people forget is how young brown is. hes better then fitzy and daniela and if TNT is going to be out as long as round 16 sheens should just pick a winger to fill that spot, this rotation thing that is being floated is a dumb idea

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

Brown was always going to be a poor buy, **he couldn't even make regular first grade at the Sharks**, and they have the worst backline in the competition by far.

Brown played 19 games for the Sharks in 2009, not in a strong backline but still regular first grade

 

[Mona_Lolesi]

people expect all 21 year olds to be like inglis, and thats what alot of people forget is how young brown is. hes better then fitzy and daniela and if TNT is going to be out as long as round 16 sheens should just pick a winger to fill that spot, this rotation thing that is being floated is a dumb idea

Agreed. I think unfair also given he has made minimal errors and in a winning side whereas in the past Fitzy in a losing side somehow managed to continually maintain his spot.

And on top of that I believe he fell out of favour with Stuart.
The sharks are hardly great judges of talent.
Losing Kingston and De Gois for Corey Hughes instantly springs to mind.

 

[hybrid_tiger]

Brown was always going to be a poor buy, **he couldn't even make regular first grade at the Sharks**, and they have the worst backline in the competition by far.

Brown played 19 games for the Sharks in 2009, not in a strong backline but still regular first grade

Hmm, did he play alot of these games off the bench, because I don't recall seeing him in the Sharks' starting line-up too many times last year?

I stand corrected, but he still wasn't an automatic, first choice selection.

 

[ron_burgandy]

people expect all 21 year olds to be like inglis, and thats what alot of people forget is how young brown is. hes better then fitzy and daniela and if TNT is going to be out as long as round 16 sheens should just pick a winger to fill that spot, this rotation thing that is being floated is a dumb idea

Agreed. I think unfair also given he has made minimal errors and in a winning side whereas in the past Fitzy in a losing side somehow managed to continually maintain his spot.

And on top of that I believe he fell out of favour with Stuart.
The sharks are hardly great judges of talent.
Losing Kingston and De Gois for Corey Hughes instantly springs to mind.

people are talking about his error because it lead to a try, but fitzy made 2 errors and gave away 2 penalties verse the cowboys, they are complaing about browns dropped bomb where fitzy couldnt even catch a pass put on his chest.

 

[ron_burgandy]

oh, and lets not forget fitzy has "experence" and shouldnt make the same mistakes or worse mistakes then a 21 year old

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

Brown was always going to be a poor buy, **he couldn't even make regular first grade at the Sharks**, and they have the worst backline in the competition by far.

Brown played 19 games for the Sharks in 2009, not in a strong backline but still regular first grade

Hmm, did he play alot of these games off the bench, because I don't recall seeing him in the Sharks' starting line-up too many times last year?

I stand corrected, but he still wasn't an automatic, first choice selection.

Started in 13 (8 at centre, 4 at fullback, 1 at wing) and 6 from the bench

 

[Snake]

It has nothing to do with Browns form…there has to be a spot for Fitzhenry every week.This always happened when he was here before ..get used to it.

 

[Centaur]

I honestly think he was solid. Bit a joke that he has been dropped in favour of Fitzy - that is the bottom line.

I could only see him getting better, rather than worse.

 

[Balmain_Tiger]

probably to take some pressure off lazerus if need be…lazerus and fitzhenry rotating if needed.

 

[bonstonker]

people expect all 21 year olds to be like inglis, and thats what alot of people forget is how young brown is. hes better then fitzy and daniela and if TNT is going to be out as long as round 16 sheens should just pick a winger to fill that spot, this rotation thing that is being floated is a dumb idea

Agreed. I think unfair also given he has made minimal errors and in a winning side whereas in the past Fitzy in a losing side somehow managed to continually maintain his spot.

And on top of that I believe he fell out of favour with Stuart.
The sharks are hardly great judges of talent.
Losing Kingston and De Gois for Corey Hughes instantly springs to mind.

people are talking about his error because it lead to a try, but fitzy made 2 errors and gave away 2 penalties verse the cowboys, they are complaing about browns dropped bomb where fitzy couldnt even catch a pass put on his chest.

no,i am complaining about him continually dropping bombs.

i can't believe he hasn't been targeted more.
do coaches and players watch any game film at all?
or do we have very little thought process by halves in the nrl?

 

[Mona_Lolesi]

no,i am complaining about him continually dropping bombs.

i can't believe he hasn't been targeted more.
do coaches and players watch any game film at all?
or do we have very little thought process by halves in the nrl?

I think the term continually is a bit rich, he hasn't quite had a game like Albert Kelly had against the bunnies which in effect could be considered a replacement of his at the sharks.

I would run out of breath recounting the number of bombs one D Fitzhenry has dropped.

 

[Simmo68]

If you watch the dropped bomb against the cowboys very carefully you'll see that he got a nice whack from John Williams the moment before attempted to catch it. I blew up at first because I thought it was a poor drop that led to a try. But I saw the replay on the Sunday footy show the next morning. John Williams was contesting so it wasn't anything illegal but Brown definitely got bumped at the wrong time and couldn't adjust his hands.

I can't remember the other drops that have been mentioned so I can't comment on them. Just think he was a little hard done by with the Cowboys one.

I think Brown overall this season has been unspectacular but still solid. Should be given more time to prove what he's made of.

 

[southerntiger]

Agree completely Simmo. The bump was a good one from Williams, but all legal. Mitch could still have done better but for people to focus on this one dropped bomb is a bit ridiculous when we have Fitzy in the side. Even the great Hodgo dropped a few easy ones in his time. This one was far from easy.

 

[bonstonker]

no,i am complaining about him continually dropping bombs.

i can't believe he hasn't been targeted more.
do coaches and players watch any game film at all?
or do we have very little thought process by halves in the nrl?

I think the term continually is a bit rich, he hasn't quite had a game like Albert Kelly had against the bunnies which in effect could be considered a replacement of his at the sharks.

I would run out of breath recounting the number of bombs one D Fitzhenry has dropped.

well how many failures to field a bomb do we accept.i pointed out 4 bombs that i know he dropped.
for me a winger must be efficient in this area.
it is one of the few mistakes a player can make because in alot of instances you don't get the chance to defend the mistake.
if he had more to his game like more speed ,tackle breaking ability or a finisher like tnt and lote i could off set his drops more,but there is nothing on the positive that outweighs his negatives in my view.

with tnt unable to play,i would like to see someone other than brown given a go on the wing.when i look at the team,i think right wing is our weakest spot with brown.
with fitzy,it is still our weakest spot.
the same with daniela
pritchard i haven't seen,but the hype he gets has me wondering why i never hear his weaknesses.a player so perfect doesn't waste away in state cup.

i should probably give daniela some slack as i haven't seen much of him,but i have a feeling his defense is a problem in his reads and execution.

for some reason i think sheens is going to turn brown into fitzys replacement next year. :laughing:

 

[domster]

Who says Fitzy is retiring next year :slight_smile:

 

[bonstonker]

Agree completely Simmo. The bump was a good one from Williams, but all legal. Mitch could still have done better but for people to focus on this one dropped bomb is a bit ridiculous when we have Fitzy in the side. Even the great Hodgo dropped a few easy ones in his time. This one was far from easy.

southern i simply see a trend.
i pointed out 4 that i know of and hoped someone could provide any memory of fielded bombs by him in the trials.
against the eels he had a contested bomb come his way.the reason it is forgotten is that we still ended up with the ball because of the eels knock on.
you could even argue that he didn't even drop it,which would be correct,but he was outjumped for it and didn't time it well at all.
if he doesn't have a good high point on his jumps then that is a weakness.just like folau has a huge leap and that is a strength.

at least fitzy has caught a bomb this year

 

[southerntiger]

Bon,

As I said earlier I dont recall the Eels miss. Perhaps my opinion will change after seeing it. I generally agree with you that if Brown is to have any value, given his lack of other assets, he must be as safe as houses under the high ball. The one thing I have liked about Brown is his composure with the ball in hand.

I am certaintly not sold on him, but thought the dropped bomb against the Cows was a tough one, given the Williams interference.

 

[tigerdre]

i hope he was simply dropped.
i would grade him c- during his stint here so far

i can't see how i could grade him any higher.

C- why?? because he dropped 1 bomb 😕
He was solid without being a standout.Between Brown & Ryan they gave us good field positioning running out of dummy half.He did what was asked of him.
What else do people want??

so far he has had 2 bombs come his way.parra and cowboys
he fielded neither.
he also missed 2 in the trials.
did he catch any in the trials,because if he didn't then that is 4 bombs and he has come up with nothing.

i'm sure this is why he wasn't named.
notice as soon as brown dropped that bomb fitzy was moved onto the wing in defense.
his dummy half runs have been average.against the eels was his best run and that was because ryan got a quick ptb.

c- in my books
are you grading him higher than a c

Yeah i would have given him a B-
He did his job simple as that.Sure he made errors just like all our players make errors
If he got picked again on the wing I would'nt have any qualms what so ever because i know he is only there as back up