OFFICIAL Bryce Gibbs [Discussion]

We can always buy Fifita back later! It's not like he will always be gone for good. We did the right thing by him and if the junior props don't excel like expected, we can buy him back when he is reaching his peak as a prop.
 
@JJR said:
Shocking to lose a player like Fifita who is young and a great prop. Since when was Adam Blair the new Glen Lazarus? I would've preferred to keep Fifita and find a fullback.
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I think you will find that the sort of money Fifta is getting at the sharks is in the same league as what we are offering Blair minus any third party agreements. So it would have had the same effect on our cap, would imagine which option we took Blair or Fifita their was never going to be any room for a quality fullback.

Anyway Iam sure the club gave it plenty of thought, lets hope it was the right decision as we know they dont always get it right (Ohara comes to mind!!!)
 
maybe if we are cunning, we can send cronulla David Fifita (they are identical)…....and next year we will still have Andrew (who seems to be David). Are you confused.....because I am.

No but seriously, David Fifita has been playing a lot more prop for Wests in NSW cup whereas in the past has been a second rower. Is there any chance that Sheensy is maybe trying to mould him into a clone of his brother?
 
@PYMBLEPETE said:
@krayola said:
want to clear something up

people seem **very confused** over the nature of Fifita's departure

it is different to Bryce - Gibbs was released him from his contract. The Tigers had **total control** over that.

We actually took up Fifita's option! We wanted to keep him! However, he did not want to stay. **He left.**
Cronulla offered much better money and he took it. And I don't think we were offering chump change either.
He would still have been paid quite well at the Tiges from what everyone has reported.

This was Fifita's decision and not the club's. It is far from a horrible decision on our behalf, and the fact that we actually took up his option shows we wanted to keep the guy. **He didn't want to stay.**

We only dumped Gibbs to make way for Blair. Not Fifita.
But thankyou, Andrew, for easing our cap concerns just that little more.

Its back to law school for you krayola. By taking up its option on Fifita the club had him contracted to play with us for next year. The fact the Sharks were offering him a lot more cash is irrelevant. The club has had control over both departures.
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Not sure which law school you went to PP, but at most they teach the full range of contractual options. We do not know what form of option this contract had. Many forms will give an out to fifita in this case. Simply put you are wrong that it is black & white in that respect.

Getting away from the legalities, I am not sure how comfortable I would be if the club could and did stick to it's digs and cost fifita a couple of hundred G's.
 
@Alf Duguid said:
Conveniently the official news was released on the same day as SOO II and has now been lost in the euphoria of a NSW victory. Well played Wayne Cousins
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humphreys pleaded with cronulla to not announce the signings until Wednesday. the deals were 'officially' done on Monday.

very, very smart indeed on our behalf.
 
Embarrassing and amateurish they have officially gone yet we have nothing

The correct way would be to announce Blair first, then the departures.
Mickey mouse stuff from Humpty….not just this deal but the whole god damned mess.
We have half a squad leaving and apparently one player replacing them....mans a genius!
 
@innsaneink said:
Embarrassing and amateurish they have officially gone yet we have nothing

The correct way would be to announce Blair first, then the departures.
Mickey mouse stuff from Humpty….not just this deal but the whole god damned mess.
We have half a squad leaving and apparently one player replacing them....mans a genius!
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if you were our CEO ink, and you had the players you wanted, we'd be cheating the salary cap.

what were your thoughts when we upgraded Lawrence, Ayshford, Woods etc ?
 
@Tigerdale said:
@innsaneink said:
Embarrassing and amateurish they have officially gone yet we have nothing

The correct way would be to announce Blair first, then the departures.
Mickey mouse stuff from Humpty….not just this deal but the whole god damned mess.
We have half a squad leaving and apparently one player replacing them....mans a genius!

if you were our CEO ink, and you had the players you wanted, we'd be cheating the salary cap.

what were your thoughts when we upgraded **Lawrence, Ayshford, Woods** etc ?
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The same when we extended Gibbs & took the option on Fifita….5 players. meh
We signed only Utai last year, no one this year and the squad is been ripped apart
 
@innsaneink said:
Embarrassing and amateurish they have officially gone yet we have nothing

The correct way would be to announce Blair first, then the departures.
Mickey mouse stuff from Humpty….not just this deal but the whole god damned mess.
We have half a squad leaving and apparently one player replacing them....mans a genius!
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I'm inclined to agree Ink. I don't have the business credentials that Humphreys does and I'm not on the inside so I don't know what the method behind the madness is either (there may well be perfect justification for it for all we know,) but from the outside looking in it does look like a right royal mess.

I hope it's all cleaned up ASAP so we can move on, all this uncertainty amongst the upper echelons of the club gives the playing group an excuse to perform poorly.
 
@that_guy said:
maybe if we are cunning, we can send cronulla David Fifita (they are identical)…....and next year we will still have Andrew (who seems to be David). Are you confused.....because I am.

No but seriously, David Fifita has been playing a lot more prop for Wests in NSW cup whereas in the past has been a second rower. Is there any chance that Sheensy is maybe trying to mould him into a clone of his brother?
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Given that David is not on a top tier contract, it is highly likely he will join Andrew at the Sharks next season.
 
@willow said:
@that_guy said:
maybe if we are cunning, we can send cronulla David Fifita (they are identical)…....and next year we will still have Andrew (who seems to be David). Are you confused.....because I am.

No but seriously, David Fifita has been playing a lot more prop for Wests in NSW cup whereas in the past has been a second rower. Is there any chance that Sheensy is maybe trying to mould him into a clone of his brother?

Given that David is not on a top tier contract, it is highly likely he will join Andrew at the Sharks next season.
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Haha I was suggesting that the tigers try the old switcheroo, by swapping Andrew and David. Therefore sharkies get Dave….and we keep Andrew. Identical twins (its got to work)
 
@krayola said:
want to clear something up

people seem **very confused** over the nature of Fifita's departure

it is different to Bryce - Gibbs was released him from his contract. The Tigers had **total control** over that.

We actually took up Fifita's option! We wanted to keep him! However, he did not want to stay. **He left.**
Cronulla offered much better money and he took it. And I don't think we were offering chump change either.
He would still have been paid quite well at the Tiges from what everyone has reported.

This was Fifita's decision and not the club's. It is far from a horrible decision on our behalf, and the fact that we actually took up his option shows we wanted to keep the guy. **He didn't want to stay.**

We only dumped Gibbs to make way for Blair. Not Fifita.
But thankyou, Andrew, for easing our cap concerns just that little more.
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total crap! what is your source please!
 
@Tigerdale said:
@innsaneink said:
Embarrassing and amateurish they have officially gone yet we have nothing

The correct way would be to announce Blair first, then the departures.
Mickey mouse stuff from Humpty….not just this deal but the whole god damned mess.
We have half a squad leaving and apparently one player replacing them....mans a genius!

if you were our CEO ink, and you had the players you wanted, we'd be cheating the salary cap.

what were your thoughts when we upgraded Lawrence, Ayshford, Woods etc ?
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That would only be a valid arguement if people were saying they wanted Blair as well. For me and I think the majority of posters here, particularly in light of the reported amount going to Blair I would much prefer to have kept the players we had and forgotten about Blair. We were one point and a bad refereeing decision away from a grand final we most likely would have won. With an improving young squad why all this?
 
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