Campbelltown

[Tiger_Steve]

I wonder out of 19k members how many are ticketed and how many at CSS, LO and ANZ individually.

Yep I’d love to see the breakdown. Apparently if you buy the 3 games for $x - that’s a membership. Not sure I agree

 

[gallagher]

I wonder out of 19k members how many are ticketed and how many at CSS, LO and ANZ individually.

Yep I’d love to see the breakdown. Apparently if you buy the 3 games for $x - that’s a membership. Not sure I agree

You could buy one game memberships last year or the year before that.

 

[Harvey]

I think the person that posted a 10,000+ crowd was a bit reckless with the truth. I reckon about 7,000 and 2,000 of those were raiders supporters, I reckon about 5,000 of those were wests tigers supporters, and I wonder how many of those come from other areas of Sydney like me. "Growth is in Campbelltown'' line, is the biggest myth perpetrated on us since religion.

I go to all the games there and I don't know how they found 10 000 people. Campbelltown Stadium would have a capacity of 35-40000 based on the empty spaces there yesterday. 6000 at best yesterday.

Capacity is approx 20k

 

[Harvey]

What I find most surprising, that from whole ground least populated were reserved members sectors on both sides. :question:

Thats true. The people who were ticketed members in the stand around where I sit haven't renewed this year. And they have had those seats since the renovations there some years ago. The top of the grandstand had as many empty seat as occupied ones. Plenty of Raiders fans sitting up there too. The Eastern grandstand had two bays in the middle that were about 20% filled.

They are also the $50 gold seats. Why pay that for the eastern stand , when general admission tickets let you sit 10m away for half the price

 

[Russell]

I think the answer could be in the south-west, but it's not at Campbelltown. Perhaps a new, single home ground for the Tigers at Liverpool or somewhere in that area that is not quite as far from the inner-west as Campbo. It's a huge market in the south-west and abandoning it would be crazy. Despite all the great features of CSS, it just doesn't seem like "home". Maybe a new stand-alone venue is needed? Funding for it….? No idea. Concept though.....?

There was talk a few years ago about a stadium at Liverpool - mostly about Canterbury and Tigers sharing - it never came to anything and the government obviously decided to put the dough into WSS.

That probably was the death knell.

 

[LCA]

I think the answer could be in the south-west, but it's not at Campbelltown. Perhaps a new, single home ground for the Tigers at Liverpool or somewhere in that area that is not quite as far from the inner-west as Campbo. It's a huge market in the south-west and abandoning it would be crazy. Despite all the great features of CSS, it just doesn't seem like "home". Maybe a new stand-alone venue is needed? Funding for it….? No idea. Concept though.....?

There was talk a few years ago about a stadium at Liverpool - mostly about Canterbury and Tigers sharing - it never came to anything and the government obviously decided to put the dough into WSS.

That probably was the death knell.

Yes, as a Liverpool local, I remember that proposal and the names of a few of the "identities" that proposed it. Suffice to say, they were in it for themselves, as their track record would indicate, and not always playing by the rules.

In this instance I am talking about a genuine future-focused proposal to capture the south-west Sydney area for the Wests Tigers, not some decidedly dodgy proposal by Fat Al and Latho.

 

[Bengaliwolf]

To those who are saying that a crowd of 10,000 is poor when your team is coming in to the game 2-6 and playing worse each week, the weather is freezing cold, and when the team only invests 3 games in the season at the ground, what do you expect? That game wouldn't have been packed out at Leichhardt either and at ANZ the atmosphere would be awful.

The biggest crowd for the round was 16,000 and the average was 11,000\. I don't think you can base the "ditch Campbelltown" mantra on this week's game.

True - I base my opinion on every experience I’ve had at this ground: a history of poor crowds and an atmosphere to rival ANZ. Leichhardt or bust! (Or Parra I suppose)

Harsh comment to say the atmosphere rivals ANZ. But the topic of atmosphere is highly subjective. What is it about Leichhardt's atmosphere that makes you think it's better than anywhere else?

On the crowd figures, how many people need to turn up to Campbelltown games for this forum to be happy? Over the last 18 years crowds have averaged 12,312 at Campbelltown and 13,087 at Leichhardt.

Hardly a big enough difference to say Campbelltown has poor crowds compared to Leichhardt. What's the magic number?

 

[gallagher]

To those who are saying that a crowd of 10,000 is poor when your team is coming in to the game 2-6 and playing worse each week, the weather is freezing cold, and when the team only invests 3 games in the season at the ground, what do you expect? That game wouldn't have been packed out at Leichhardt either and at ANZ the atmosphere would be awful.

The biggest crowd for the round was 16,000 and the average was 11,000\. I don't think you can base the "ditch Campbelltown" mantra on this week's game.

True - I base my opinion on every experience I’ve had at this ground: a history of poor crowds and an atmosphere to rival ANZ. Leichhardt or bust! (Or Parra I suppose)

Harsh comment to say the atmosphere rivals ANZ. But the topic of atmosphere is highly subjective. What is it about Leichhardt's atmosphere that makes you think it's better than anywhere else?

On the crowd figures, how many people need to turn up to Campbelltown games for this forum to be happy? Over the last 18 years crowds have averaged 12,312 at Campbelltown and 13,087 at Leichhardt.

Hardly a big enough difference to say Campbelltown has poor crowds compared to Leichhardt. What's the magic number?

Your right. The media, started by Gus, keep on sprouting this BS about how great LO is and its magical powers.
But the reality is that it's pulls poor crowds and doesn't deliver great win %.
Both grounds are financial shackles around the clubs neck.

 

[swag_tiger]

The sooner the club plays where the real supporter base is the better .., bring on WSS .

I agree now ..I reckon we put 50 on the Raiders there..

plus it's freezing here..

WSS?

 

[diedpretty]

Finally people are questioning the myth of Leichhardt Oval. When will people get it that we will not be playing our home games at LO or CSS. Either embrace WSS or get off the bus.

 

[gallagher]

Finally people are questioning the myth of Leichhardt Oval. When will people get it that we will not be playing our home games at LO or CSS. Either embrace WSS or get off the bus.

Like the COE, I'll believe it when i see it.

 

[cktiger]

Finally people are questioning the myth of Leichhardt Oval. When will people get it that we will not be playing our home games at LO or CSS. Either embrace WSS or get off the bus.

Leichhardt oval is no myth.
It depends if you understand the context of why people go on about the place.
Nobody's saying we are unbeatable there … but most supporters love it because it has character.
Doubt you'll find too many players from ours, or any team, who don't like playing there either.
I hope your not embracing WSS too much ... there isn't any bus from the Tigers that's been commissioned to go there yet.

 

[gallagher]

Finally people are questioning the myth of Leichhardt Oval. When will people get it that we will not be playing our home games at LO or CSS. Either embrace WSS or get off the bus.

Leichhardt oval is no myth.
It depends if you understand the context of why people go on about the place.
Nobody's saying we are unbeatable there … but most supporters love it because it has character.
Doubt you'll find too many players from ours, or any team, who don't like playing there either.
I hope your not embracing WSS too much ... there isn't any bus from the Tigers that's been commissioned to go there yet.

I wonder why opposition players like playing there? Lol

 

[Tweed_Tiger]

Finally people are questioning the myth of Leichhardt Oval. When will people get it that we will not be playing our home games at LO or CSS. Either embrace WSS or get off the bus.

Leichhardt oval is no myth.
It depends if you understand the context of why people go on about the place.
Nobody's saying we are unbeatable there … but most supporters love it because it has character.
Doubt you'll find too many players from ours, or any team, who don't like playing there either.
I hope your not embracing WSS too much ... there isn't any bus from the Tigers that's been commissioned to go there yet.

I don't think Thurston is a fan of LO

 

[innsaneink]

I agree LO has character & history, a lot is personal and for each individual… Ive been going there for nearly 50 years

My last game there however was last round last years win over the warriors...we won the game but there was zero atmosphere from the 10k crowd

Grounds dont produce atmosphere...people and games do

 

[Knuckles]

I remember being at Lidcombe Oval with about 3,000 other hardy souls and we had a great atmosphere …... when the game was close that is ...

 

[Snake]

Finally people are questioning the myth of Leichhardt Oval. When will people get it that we will not be playing our home games at LO or CSS. Either embrace WSS or get off the bus.

Everyone knows my opinion on this , if there was one ground that has to stay for a minimum of games it would be LO as this ground is a Traditional league venue and is part of the heritage of the game! Campbelltown has no tradition and does not fall into the traditional supporter base that the club has …it has no real support there.
My preference from next season is a 10 WSS and 2 with LO ON Sunday afternoons, but I suppose this new idea of taking a game to the country will have to be slotted in . I see no reason why if the bulk of the games are played out of WSS and the extra money the club would benefit from in increased ticketed memberships from basically one home ground there would be a need to take away a game from the supporters.
It is all up,to the board now as this decision will need to be made soon as the new stadium will be online within 12 Months.

 

[TCL]

Finally people are questioning the myth of Leichhardt Oval. When will people get it that we will not be playing our home games at LO or CSS. Either embrace WSS or get off the bus.

Leichhardt oval is no myth.
It depends if you understand the context of why people go on about the place.
Nobody's saying we are unbeatable there … but most supporters love it because it has character.
Doubt you'll find too many players from ours, or any team, who don't like playing there either.
I hope your not embracing WSS too much ... there isn't any bus from the Tigers that's been commissioned to go there yet.

It's the footballing myth of my dreams!

Watched footy in most stadiums and nothing comes close the LO experience for a regular round. Campbelltown is good but the stars need to align to get a crowd, we need to be winning games, play the right opposition, right day, time and weather.

Parra stadium or sorry wss is closer to me but if it's parra centric then it won't work for me.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

To those who are saying that a crowd of 10,000 is poor when your team is coming in to the game 2-6 and playing worse each week, the weather is freezing cold, and when the team only invests 3 games in the season at the ground, what do you expect? That game wouldn't have been packed out at Leichhardt either and at ANZ the atmosphere would be awful.

The biggest crowd for the round was 16,000 and the average was 11,000\. I don't think you can base the "ditch Campbelltown" mantra on this week's game.

True - I base my opinion on every experience I’ve had at this ground: a history of poor crowds and an atmosphere to rival ANZ. Leichhardt or bust! (Or Parra I suppose)

Harsh comment to say the atmosphere rivals ANZ. But the topic of atmosphere is highly subjective. What is it about Leichhardt's atmosphere that makes you think it's better than anywhere else?

On the crowd figures, how many people need to turn up to Campbelltown games for this forum to be happy? Over the last 18 years crowds have averaged 12,312 at Campbelltown and 13,087 at Leichhardt.

Hardly a big enough difference to say Campbelltown has poor crowds compared to Leichhardt. What's the magic number?

You’re right it is subjective. It just seems that the crowd are more involved in the game at Leichhardt. I can’t remember which player said it but it was said that our first game at Leichhardt this year seemed like the first home game - it was round 10\. Everyone lifts at Leichhardt- fans and players.

Yeah I know it’s not economical and will never be our home ground full time but I reckon if you asked the players what their favourite is - Leichhardt would romp it home

 

[Russell]

Have said if WSS is locked in for Parra Eels with stands named after their players and with the Leagues club next door - it is a no from me. Don't care how good it will be and it is only up the road from me. Would rather ANZ with no atmosphere.

If we had to keep one of our traditional grounds for a couple of games I would rather it be LO than CSS. However with the Magic weekend proposed for next year at Suncorp (depending on which weekend) we could lose another home game as well as the Tamworth game and is the NZ game on again next year? That could be three we lose.

If the Canada Bay / Concord Oval deal and the NRL money are fair dinkum for the C of E is a revamp of Concord Oval a possibility - closer to the traditional areas and not to far away from the Wests / Tigers Leagues Club at Ashfield?

Just a suggestion for comment - know it will cost dough.