innsaneink
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Wrong
We;ll announce some signings in the next Two or three weeks
CEO - Shane Richardson
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We;ll announce some signings in the next Two or three weeks
Tony Taco
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I like how he chose class over sledging the little choad. Well done Richo, cut the dead wood.
Looks tired haha, rough few weeks TBF.
hank37w
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I actually thought he looked pretty good, figured that he must thrive on having shit going down all around him, in which case he has definitely signed up at the right club. 🤣
Tiger_Fanatic3
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Decisions never really go your way’: Tigers boss calls out ref bias against lower ladder teams
Wests Tigers CEO Shane Richardson has made the stunning claim that referees have an inherent bias against the NRL’s struggling teams.
Marshall’s stance was echoed by Richardson on the Tigers’ Behind The Roar podcast
I thought there were some pretty ordinary refereeing decisions (in the Panthers game) that certainly had an effect on us,” Richardson said on the Tigers’ Behind The Roar podcast.
“I’ve learned over the years, though, that refereeing decisions never really go your way when you’re battling up the ladder.
For some reason referees — and they’re humans — they feel that the better teams are going to make better mistakes, less mistakes, when really that’s not the case. But it is what it is.”
“You’ve got to become one of the better teams to get some more of the rub of the green.”
For the record the Broncos (6.2 per game) are the most penalised team in the league closely followed by the Raiders and Storm (6.0), who both sit the top four.
The Tigers, who concede on average 5.8 penalties per game, rank tied fourth with four other teams.
Marshall took issue with two key penalties against captain Jarome Luai that turned the game in the Panthers’ favour after it was 10-10 in the second half.
“The game is so hard and demanding and I actually feel sorry for our players because they didn’t actually get to decide tonight,” Marshall said.
I thought two calls, the first one on Jarome, on last, making a tackle. I thought it was outrageous. That decision took them to 12-10.
“And the second one, he got done for an escort, which I thought was bad too. And then they scored off the back of that set. Just let them decide. Let them play.
The game is actually hard enough. So I’m proud of our boys and proud of the effort. And we’ll keep fighting and turning up like that the way we did tonight and keep improving.”
Marshall was pressed on whether it was the wrong call or protection on kickers gone too far.
“It was a wrong call,” Marshall said.
Despite the Tigers being in 13th position, Richardson was happy with the club’s progress.
“I’m very, very comfortable, not with 5-8 (their record), neither would you be as fans and members, but the reality is that, as a team, we’re improving all the time,” Richardson said.
‘Decisions never really go your way’: Tigers boss calls out ref bias against lower ladder teams
‘Decisions never really go your way’: Tigers boss calls out ref bias against lower ladder teams
www.foxsports.com.au
innsaneink
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Jesus hes only gotta fart and Fox are all over it
Tom Shines
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Old photo above …
Actually thought Richo has dropped some weight watching him speak today
Actually thought Richo has dropped some weight watching him speak today
Buttface
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He is correct.Decisions never really go your way’: Tigers boss calls out ref bias against lower ladder teams
Wests Tigers CEO Shane Richardson has made the stunning claim that referees have an inherent bias against the NRL’s struggling teams.
Marshall’s stance was echoed by Richardson on the Tigers’ Behind The Roar podcast
I thought there were some pretty ordinary refereeing decisions (in the Panthers game) that certainly had an effect on us,” Richardson said on the Tigers’ Behind The Roar podcast.
“I’ve learned over the years, though, that refereeing decisions never really go your way when you’re battling up the ladder.
For some reason referees — and they’re humans — they feel that the better teams are going to make better mistakes, less mistakes, when really that’s not the case. But it is what it is.”
“You’ve got to become one of the better teams to get some more of the rub of the green.”
For the record the Broncos (6.2 per game) are the most penalised team in the league closely followed by the Raiders and Storm (6.0), who both sit the top four.
The Tigers, who concede on average 5.8 penalties per game, rank tied fourth with four other teams.
Marshall took issue with two key penalties against captain Jarome Luai that turned the game in the Panthers’ favour after it was 10-10 in the second half.
“The game is so hard and demanding and I actually feel sorry for our players because they didn’t actually get to decide tonight,” Marshall said.
I thought two calls, the first one on Jarome, on last, making a tackle. I thought it was outrageous. That decision took them to 12-10.
“And the second one, he got done for an escort, which I thought was bad too. And then they scored off the back of that set. Just let them decide. Let them play.
The game is actually hard enough. So I’m proud of our boys and proud of the effort. And we’ll keep fighting and turning up like that the way we did tonight and keep improving.”
Marshall was pressed on whether it was the wrong call or protection on kickers gone too far.
“It was a wrong call,” Marshall said.
Despite the Tigers being in 13th position, Richardson was happy with the club’s progress.
“I’m very, very comfortable, not with 5-8 (their record), neither would you be as fans and members, but the reality is that, as a team, we’re improving all the time,” Richardson said.
‘Decisions never really go your way’: Tigers boss calls out ref bias against lower ladder teams
‘Decisions never really go your way’: Tigers boss calls out ref bias against lower ladder teams
I have said many times the refs have a subconscious bias against the lower ranked, or poorer clubs. It’s human. There have been a few studies on it, I read two, (about 20yrs ago), one on NFL refs, and one on European soccer refs, and they were both very similar in their findings.
People can babble on about average penalties per game all they like but there are some penalties that change a game, and it is those penalties that matter that get covered up by averaging stats. Same as the 6-again, it allows a ref to influence and control a game without the microscope that a penalty can be. There’s also the subconscious making up for an error that has already changed a game.
As a team that’s trying to climb the ladder, and not just the seasonal ladder but the ladder of long term success that builds an unconscious bias in humans, refs and fan’s alike, you need to know and accept that this bias Is going to happen. Do your best to push the envelope without getting caught, knowing that you have a bigger chance of getting pinged, and then defend. Bcoz it’s defence that will turn the tide and change the refs perception, but it’s a club as a whole that needs to be better. More professional, financial, good management, rep honours, membership and crowd numbers all go into changing the unconscious bias. I think we are in the path, it’s just early days.
BAGNF05
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Touché mate. Well said.
Buttface
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I have a few refs in the fam, some made it to the top, I have watched it play out In front of me. I found the topic interesting as refs are generally very unbiased and follow the rules. They don’t do it on purpose, it’s human. But it’s not just the play in front of them at that moment that makes them bias it’s a whole club perception that gets built up over time. Same way if I said that two teams played and one team dropped the ball more often than their opponents which teams were playing? I bet you can guess which side of that equation most people would put the Tigpies on. It’s human. But we need to own it bcoz it has been our ineptness both on and off the field that has contributed to this result. We can change it too, but it’s a long term goal that we need to achieve or as more and more out of Sydney teams join, the more pressure there will be to cull one of the Sydney teams, and guess who I reckon most people would vote for.
Buttface
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But after saying all that, I do reckon we the Tigers have been robbed more than the average poorly run, underachieving club. I would love a Deep Dive (@Jolls), on all the times the Tigers have been robbed two points, and I’m not talking about ya run o the mill shafting, but how many times has the NRL had to come out on Tuesday and make up some BS or literally apologise (rare) for robbing us. It would also need to include the under the ruggers, like when Hayne (I think) stepped on the fkn line and no one says shit.
But even if someone did do a comprehensive shafting report the piss weak corrupt NRL wouldn’t do squat.
Wonder who the players knocking on Richo's door for extensions are?
Api, Tallyn, AD and Star are my guess.
Surely Naden's been told he's free to leave.
Can't carry that baggage another year.
Api, Tallyn, AD and Star are my guess.
Surely Naden's been told he's free to leave.
Can't carry that baggage another year.
Rock Hopper Steve
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Feel sorry for poor old Jolls that task could take 6 months of research and drive him round the bend, don't do it to the man.
BAGNF05
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Yeah. I don’t think there’s any deliberate ploy by referees to target us. But the negativity both of our own doing and of the bad press we get all year every year, it would get in their heads for sure.
And there’s an agenda for some of the other Sydney clubs (who have buddies in the media) to keep us at the bottom in my opinion, no doubt.
How hilarious that it took less than one NRL game for the inconsistency in the Luai decision (and Annusley’s defense of it) to become crystal clear. The joys of being a Tiger.
I’m glad it’s being aired, now maybe something will change on the field for us. The refs actually might think twice before blowing the whistle on us. Keeping silent on the issue hasn’t helped at all, it just gave the refs licence to keeping doing it.
That is actually a good thing. If it happened weeks later or in the semis everyone would’ve forgotten about it. Now Annesley and his refs have nowhere to hide.
What frustrates me , is they use the cumulative penalties as a stat to counter prove his argument, knowing full well that’s not what he’s talking about . He’s talking about the howler , the short whistle , the escort where you’re sent to the bin ( last night Foran blatantly held back a player who was screaming through for a try a scoring position-penalty) , the 3 infringements and you’re off made up rule .
We have copped more howlers in the last 5 years then every team has combined in the nrl era . Thats what he’s talking about . Penalty for lying in the ruck 60m out from the tryline is hardly the same thing .