Cini

[YesHeCheeKam]

So I am starting to get the feeling its not going to work out for Cini here:

- He is now 21 (Definitely old enough)
- The last 6 weeks we pulled a centre out of the wilderness, and then in the meantime have been playing a stop gap centre (Chee Kam) who offers nothing in attack whatsoever. Both over him

You would have to think that if Maguire had him in his plans in the slightest, he would have used him in this period. I am not saying Maguire is wrong, but you would have to think if Madge saw Cini as a player of the future that we would of seen him over the last few weeks/this week

 

[Geo]

Very much doubt he will be in the top 30 next year..KOE contract at best..

 

[Guest]

Very much doubt he will be in the top 30 next year..KOE contract at best..

Agree. I suspect the club is doing what it can to retain Logen Dillon and he'll be ahead of Cini next year.

 

[Demps]

Very much doubt he will be in the top 30 next year..KOE contract at best..

Agree. I suspect the club is doing what it can to retain Logen Dillon and he'll be ahead of Cini next year.

Not a bad plan though tbh.
Dillon positives outweigh Cini's.

 

[Harvey]

Former Aus schoolboy wasn't he?

People keep saying that identifying an recruiting top young talent will be our way of becoming successful.

Does not work well if the young talent doesn't develop, you lose them to other clubs or cannot keep them.

I am becoming increasingly convinced our leadership is either deluded, dumb or completely out of their depth.

We are a club lost at the moment.

 

[weststigerman]

Former Aus schoolboy wasn't he?

People keep saying that identifying an recruiting top young talent will be our way of becoming successful.

Does not work well if the young talent doesn't develop, you lose them to other clubs or cannot keep them.

I am becoming increasingly convinced our leadership is either deluded, dumb or completely out of their depth.

We are a club lost at the moment.

While I don't disagree with your points about the club being lost, not every Australian schoolboy makes it in the NRL. We've had plenty of them that haven't made it, off the top of my head: Jacob Miller, Matt Groat, Brenden Santi etc.

Not everyone will make it but we need to hang on to the right ones.

 

[CarltonDry]

Very much doubt he will be in the top 30 next year..KOE contract at best..

Agree. I suspect the club is doing what it can to retain Logen Dillon and he'll be ahead of Cini next year.

Bahahaha ?‍♂️

 

[Aceshigh]

Cini don’t look up to first grade standard for mine , but then again a lot of them that are being picked on a regular basis are in the same boat

 

[jrtiger]

he had a sensational debut, but the game afterwards brought him back down to earth. been very worried about his ability as a first grader long term. Dillon has far more upside, hopefully we can retain him.

 

[Moh]

I'd really like to see more of Cini in first grade, his debut was too good to ignore it just because of one poor game. Plenty of great players have had poor games.

 

[jirskyr]

Former Aus schoolboy wasn't he?

People keep saying that identifying an recruiting top young talent will be our way of becoming successful.

Does not work well if the young talent doesn't develop, you lose them to other clubs or cannot keep them.

I am becoming increasingly convinced our leadership is either deluded, dumb or completely out of their depth.

We are a club lost at the moment.

While I don't disagree with your points about the club being lost, not every Australian schoolboy makes it in the NRL. We've had plenty of them that haven't made it, off the top of my head: Jacob Miller, Matt Groat, Brenden Santi etc.

Not everyone will make it but we need to hang on to the right ones.

I don't think it's a failing - all clubs have a stab at the annual schoolboys roster and many of the kids don't become established first graders. It's hard to know which kids will kick on.

Take a random year, say 2016 with 5 years opportunity to develop - some of them have made it, some are borderline, some disappeared.

>1 Nick Cotric (Erindale College – ACT)
2 Mawene Hiroti (Matraville Sports High – NSWCHS)
3 Zac Lomax (Figtree High – NSWCHS)
4 Tui Afualo (Westfields Sports High – NSWCHS)
5 Campbell Graham (Marcellin College, Randwick – NSWCCC)
6 Lachlan Lam (Marcellin College, Randwick – NSWCCC)
7 Sean O’Sullivan (Patrician Brothers’ College, Blacktown – NSWCCCC)
8 Pasami Saulo (Hunter Sports High – NSWCHS)
9 Blayke Brailey (Aquinas Catholic College, Menai – NSWCCC)
10 Thomas Mikaele (Keebra Park State High – Queensland)
11 Brodie Jones (All Saints College, Maitland – NSWCCC)
12 Josh Curran (Patrician Brothers’ College, Blacktown – NSWCCC)
13 Sean Keppie (Westfields Sports High – NSWCHS)
14 Dean Blore (The Hills Sports High – NSWCHS)
15 Reece Robson (Endeavour Sports High – NSWCHS)
16 Payne Haas (Keebra Park State High – Queensland)
17 Michael Tupou (Patrician Brothers’ College, Blacktown – NSWCCC)

2013 schoolboys - most of this group did not establish themselves:

>1 Dallin Watene-Zelezniak Patrician Brothers College Blacktown
2 NSWCHS Sione Mata’utia Hunter Sports High School
3 NSWCHS * Euan Aitken Illawarra Sports High School
4 QLD Marion Seve Keebra Park State High School
5 NSWCHS Nathan Davis James Busby High School
6 QLD Jayden Nikorima Wavell State High School
7 NSWCHS Jackson Hastings Illawarra Sports High School
8 NSWCHS Vincent Leuluai Sarah Redfern High School
9 QLD Jenan Wedderburn-Parrish Australian Industry Trade College
10 QLD George Fai Marsden State High School
11 NSWCHS Royce Hunt Bass High School
12 NSWCCC Tyrell Fuimaono Patrician Brothers College Blacktown
13 NSWCCC Cheyne Whitelaw Marcellin College Randwick
14 NSWCIS Joey Lussick Newington College
15 NSWCHS Thomas Freebairn Illawarra Sports High School
16 NSWCHS Willis Meehan Matraville Sports High School
17 QLD Lamar Manuel-Liolevave Keebra Park State High School

2010 schoolboys - quite pertinent for Wests Tigers; again many of these kids didn't make it
>Lachlan Burr - Picnic Point High School, NSW
Paul Carter - Homebush Boys High School, NSW
Michael Chee-Kam - Erindale College, ACT
Cameron Cullen - Palm Beach Currumbin State High School, QLD
Matthew Eisenhuth - St Paul’s Catholic College, Greystanes, NSW
Anthony Gadd - Wavell State High School, QLD
Jacob Gagan - Westfields Sports High School, NSW
Christopher Grevsmuhl - Ignatius Park College, Townsville, QLD
Matthew Groat - St Gregory’s College, Campbelltown, NSW
Sam Irwin - Palm Beach Currumbin State High School, QLD
Trent Jennings - Westfields Sports High School, NSW
David Klemmer - Westfields Sports High School, NSW
Gerard McCallum - The Hills Sports High School, NSW
Tautau Moga - St Peter Claver College, Ipswich, QLD
David Nofoaluma - John Therry Catholic College, Rosemeadow, NSW
Luke Pickerd - St Patrick’s College, Sutherland, NSW
Chad Redman - Hunter Sports High School , NSW
Iain Riccardi - Wavell State High School, QLD
Harry Siejka - Patrician Brothers College, Blacktown, NSW
James Tedesco - St Gregory’s College, Campbelltown, NSW
Vaipuna Tia Kilifi - St Dominic’s College, Kingswood, NSW
Francis Veukiso - Kirwan State High School, QLD
Henare Wells - Keebra Park State High School, QLD
Jack Wighton - Erindale College, ACT

In this topic I always repeat my story from my high school - we had a few good rugby league sides; 5 years ahead of me was Solo Haumono and we all knew he'd go on to play first grade, no doubt. But obviously he didn't really establish himself with a good career, despite the talent.

The year group behind him included this red-hot kid called David Tyler, who ended up I think at Bulldogs, but just never kicked on. Another guy in that group was Shane Rigon, and he wasn't earmarked as a special player, but he ground out a decent career of 200-odd first grade games for Roosters and Souths, plus a year for Bradford.

 

[tig_prmz]

21 is young

 

[earl]

I hope they keep Cini even if he plays a lot of reserve grade.