Clearys subs

[851]

WOW!
The knives are out.

Failures today, and probably all year except Thompson, MWZ, Sue, Brooks, Thompson, McQueen and I could go on, Farah and Mbye were good, as was Reynolds and Rowdy, the rest :deadhorse:

 

[jirskyr]

Cleary can not get away with out some criticism,look at how well the no name Titans coach is doing, he is the one that has signed 2 dud props on big money … There is a lot of talk but not much action ATM.

The Titans have current Origin players. Also a future Origin halfback. They have more talent then us in my opinion.

And they only have 6 wins.

Yeah I agree with Eddie

Ryan James
Jarrod Wallace
Jai Arrow
Kevin Proctor
Nathan Peats
Ash Taylor

All quality footballers, all arguably better than any single player we have in the equivalent position, and most in reasonable form.

Titans' main issue is the lack of depth in their roster and some strike out wide. They certainly ARE NOT a team of no-names, unless you don't follow football closely. Their first-choice pack is one of the better ones in the comp.

 

[Geo]

Umm the Star of the Team is the TEAM..geez..

 

[Telltails]

Not his fault doesn't have the cattle..

He went to the wrong sales yard

X2

Widdop, Dugan, Moylan were all off last year. Sink should of been thrown at them.

They didnt want to play at our club.

 

[Tweed_Tiger]

so much salt today its hilarious

 

[WestsBenTigers]

Anybody who thinks Cleary should be sacked is delusional. In the first few rounds we looked really good and our defence was outstanding. Our defence has definitely fallen off in recent times but how can this be cleary's fault. Our defence has been poor for many seasons and with 1 off season he turned our defence into one of the best in the comp. He has shown he has what it takes so the onus has to fall onto the players.

We are just making too many errors and giving possession to the opposition - something out of cleary's control. When we held onto the ball yesterday we looked really good our attack looked capable of scoring points. But we just lacked execution.

In our last 2 games we have not scored a second half point. This comes off the lack of possession and our heads just dropping. At the start of the season we were playing with intensity for 80 minutes but this aspect of our game has disappeared. It is now up to Ivan AND the players to make sure that this second half trend reverses starting with our next match against the dragons.

Ivan still needs to do his part in making sure the players can turn this poor form around but to think he needs to be sacked is ridiculous.

Hopefully we can use this bye to refresh an replenish our energy so we can play for 80 minutes.

There is still a lot of dead-wood that needs to be cleared out and we need to look to sign quality players. It looks like we have front-loaded a few contracts so we should have extra money to spend on quality players in the upcoming seasons.

 

[NT_Tiger]

Maybe Robbie will get him punted.

Wouldn’t mind Farah as coach !

Stop it. Stay strong.

Cant ….I’m done !

Bye then, nice knowing you. I hear the Capons are looking for supporters.

 

[NT_Tiger]

so much salt today its hilarious

Good avatar. I Like it.

 

[Tweed_Tiger]

so much salt today its hilarious

Good avatar. I Like it.

Thanks :stuck_out_tongue:

 

[jirskyr]

Cleary is a complete fraud. He's been found out now.

The biggest thing that annoys me about current players in the modern era. With all the science, the training techniques, the facilities, the physio. They train all week, full-time professionals getting paid $300k+ they have to perform for 2 x 40 minutes halves every week, 40mins of play and then you get to sit down for 15 mins and yet, some players can only play 20mins and they are gassed. It's pathetic. An 80 minute game. 80 minutes a week, less than an hour and a half of work a week and most front line forwards struggle to play 40mins a game. Terrible conditioning.

You've certainly come out firing since you signed up to the forum.

Though I put it to you - if "most front line forwards struggle to play 40 mins a game", direct quote from yourself, then doesn't it tell you that playing more than 40 mins a game is difficult?

Fair enough if there were lots of forwards at other clubs cashing in 70+ minute games, then you can point fingers. But if most of them need a sub for half a match, then it tell you that… most of them NEED a sub during a match.

Money, training, duration of the work week - there are limits on human endurance, you can't just say "they do less than 2 hours work per week" and point fingers.

 

[Tweed_Tiger]

Did McQueen get injured or hooked? Didn't notice him

 

[Clifferd]

Did McQueen get injured or hooked? Didn't notice him

Honestly didn’t even notice him once

 

[Muffstar]

Did McQueen get injured or hooked? Didn't notice him

Honestly didn’t even notice him once

He had as much impact as a fart in the wind.

 

[Geo]

Chris had a haircut..that's why..

 

[Demps]

Anybody who thinks Cleary should be sacked is delusional. In the first few rounds we looked really good and our defence was outstanding. Our defence has definitely fallen off in recent times but how can this be cleary's fault. Our defence has been poor for many seasons and with 1 off season he turned our defence into one of the best in the comp. He has shown he has what it takes so the onus has to fall onto the players.

We are just making too many errors and giving possession to the opposition - something out of cleary's control. When we held onto the ball yesterday we looked really good our attack looked capable of scoring points. But we just lacked execution.

In our last 2 games we have not scored a second half point. This comes off the lack of possession and our heads just dropping. At the start of the season we were playing with intensity for 80 minutes but this aspect of our game has disappeared. It is now up to Ivan AND the players to make sure that this second half trend reverses starting with our next match against the dragons.

Ivan still needs to do his part in making sure the players can turn this poor form around but to think he needs to be sacked is ridiculous.

Hopefully we can use this bye to refresh an replenish our energy so we can play for 80 minutes.

There is still a lot of dead-wood that needs to be cleared out and we need to look to sign quality players. It looks like we have front-loaded a few contracts so we should have extra money to spend on quality players in the upcoming seasons.

Not sure anyone is calling for him to be sacked…

However he needs to start having some stern words to certain people and making some serious calls on the team list.

 

[mtd]

I reckon a few people are being a bit harsh on him.

How do we have that start to the season then flop? I don't think it's clearys fault.. But I don't know whos it is

 

[old_boy]

Cleary is a complete fraud. He's been found out now.

The biggest thing that annoys me about current players in the modern era. With all the science, the training techniques, the facilities, the physio. They train all week, full-time professionals getting paid $300k+ they have to perform for 2 x 40 minutes halves every week, 40mins of play and then you get to sit down for 15 mins and yet, some players can only play 20mins and they are gassed. It's pathetic. An 80 minute game. 80 minutes a week, less than an hour and a half of work a week and most front line forwards struggle to play 40mins a game. Terrible conditioning.

You've certainly come out firing since you signed up to the forum.

Though I put it to you - if "most front line forwards struggle to play 40 mins a game", direct quote from yourself, then doesn't it tell you that playing more than 40 mins a game is difficult?

Fair enough if there were lots of forwards at other clubs cashing in 70+ minute games, then you can point fingers. But if most of them need a sub for half a match, then it tell you that… most of them NEED a sub during a match.

Money, training, duration of the work week - there are limits on human endurance, you can't just say "they do less than 2 hours work per week" and point fingers.

The game has breed them to be lazy i guess. They are only playing to the widely accepted game plan across all teams. Play 20mins have 40 off and play the last 20 mins seems to the the way props are coached to play. Even so looking at the stats on nrl.com Packer and Benny Mat plays 15-20mins less a game than forwards like Graham, Klemmer, Woods, Vaughan, Fifta etc who regularly feature high 50 minute to 60min+ games. So i guess my post shouldve have been more directed at the ineptness of our 2 pillow props. The value is not there in these 2 and they both struggle to play 40 mins in total. Itll be interesting what happens to these types of players in the reduction of the interchange.

At the time i wrote the above I was p'ed off just after the game where yet again Packer was useless and even when he was on the field was hardly seen. Playing less minutes youd think he would just be a lot more dynamic.

"You've certainly come out firing since you signed up to the forum."

I've been on this forum since 2004, ive seen every incarnation of this site. I was one of the original people to use this forum back in the day along with guys like Sincas, Prince EWS, smeg, Kul etc. I havent been actively posting the last few years, just lurking. Opened a new username.