Coaching feats since Taylor has been here

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Here are a few of the many impressive coaching feats over the past two years that other clubs coaches have managed to do, while our coach has taken our talent filled roster nowhere.

Ricky Stuart - Took a club going nowhere, added rejects like Rapana, Leilua, Austin (lol) and a bunch of English nobodies (Hodgson) and turned them into a tough side that can match it with anybody. Specifically turned long term nobodies Rapana and Leilua into the most dangerous edge in the NRL

Paul McGregor - Dragons were locks for the spoon. Well they just took down the defending premiers!

Shane Flanagan - Speaking of which, weren't the Sharks going to fold a couple of seasons ago? What was that about half the side banned for being drug cheats including the coach? Never mind, premiers within a season of that. In the process took precocious talents like Jack Bird, Wade Graham, Val Holmes and mixed them with good senior players and turned them into bonafide NRL stars.

Neil Henry - Took a Gold Coast Titans side with Anthony Don playing wing to the finals last year. On paper worse roster than ours but he got them playing footy for each other.

Jason Taylor - Took a side with a supposed future Australian halves pairing, best fullback in the game and future NSW captain to within a game of the finals but unfortunately got belted. Then got belted again by the same team. Hasn't improved the defence at all, but yeah ok we went from 15th to 9th from his first to second year. One wonders how much improvement we may have had with a coach who the players respect.
 
Forgot Brad Arthur, he has done wonders with Parra. They will be playing finals footy this year.
 
It goes beyond Taylor. I remember back before Madge got to Souths i used to laugh and say anyone that would go to Souths would kill their career, that they were cursed. The more time has gone on, the more it looks like that's now us. We're facing 6 straight seasons of missing the 8\. Unheard of in a 16 team competition. The saddest thing is this team has no heart, no guts. They fold at the first sign of trouble. Imagine if they played with the amount of heart the Titans play with. That's all i ask for from here. Not asking for wins, just some fight and some pride in the damn jersey you prima donna's.
 
Yep - my view is he lost the players respect during the RF fiasco at the end of last year Contrary to what those who blamed Farah for all that was wrong at the club, I dont think the players for a minute supported his sacking to reserve grade. I dont think it sat well with the Rugby League community in general, and I dont think it sat well with the players in light of the feeble excuse that was given for dropping him, and the lesser players that were used to replace him.
Love RF or hate him denying him any possibity to play his 250th for the club was a petty power play that was a poor look for the club and spoke volumes about the coach.I cant recall a player of Farahs calibre who has given that length of service to one club ever being treated so poorly leading up to a milestone game
Farah has moved on, the club is still crying over salary cap problems, our defence is just as poor as it has always been and the attack that was so stifled….. 8 points to us- 82 :to our opposition in the last two weeks speaks for itself
Yes its a weaker roster than many clubs - but I see no improvement in this squad after two years under JT. Just see a coach who has no answers who spent too much energy on a vendetta than coaching what was in front of him..
 
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Yep - my view is he lost the players respect during the RF fiasco at the end of last year Contrary to what those who blamed Farah for all that was wrong at the club, I dont think the players for a minute supported his sacking to reserve grade. I dont think it sat well with the Rugby League community in general, and I dont think it sat well with the players in light of the feeble excuse that was given for dropping him, and the lesser players that were used to replace him.
Love RF or hate him denying him any possibity to play his 250th for the club was a petty power play that was a poor look for the club and spoke volumes about the coach.I cant recall a player of Farahs calibre who has given that length of service to one club ever being treated so poorly leading up to a milestone game
Farah has moved on, the club is still crying over salary cap problems, our defence is just as poor as it has always been and the attack that was so stifled….. 8 points to us- 82 :to our opposition in the last two weeks speaks for itself
Yes its a weaker roster than many clubs - but I see no improvement in this squad after two years under JT. Just see a coach who has no answers who spent too much energy on a vendetta than coaching what was in front of him..
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I think most of the board thought exactly the same at the time. We were so unified in Farah coming off the bench and the team getting an excellent result. We should have been in those finals. My FG mate is still spitting chips over it and reckons Souths are really getting value out of him no matter which position they have him playing.

Those buses on route 372 and 384 should have their front ends checked after what's being thrown under them.
 
Anyone that wants to continue to make excuses about Taylor being the most uninspiring Coach in the league, should get a copy of the Titans game this week,
The Team has been decimated by injuries since the season began, yet the attitude thatthey showed was amazing. Congratulations to the team For touching it out when hitbwith more injuries, And congratulations to the Coach for getting them up for the game .
They fought through. We capitulated as we normally do
 
I reckon Taylor has a couple of games to turn it around.

If we're 1-4 after five rounds and we continue to get shellacked, he's as good as gone.
 
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I reckon Taylor has a couple of games to turn it around.

If we're 1-4 after five rounds and we continue to get shellacked, he's as good as gone.
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He has had his chance, sacked assisstants and defensive coaches in 3 straight offseasons he has been here, well no more chances or excuses it is his turn to go now, not in 2 weeks.
 
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Yep - my view is he lost the players respect during the RF fiasco at the end of last year Contrary to what those who blamed Farah for all that was wrong at the club, I dont think the players for a minute supported his sacking to reserve grade. I dont think it sat well with the Rugby League community in general, and I dont think it sat well with the players in light of the feeble excuse that was given for dropping him, and the lesser players that were used to replace him.
Love RF or hate him denying him any possibity to play his 250th for the club was a petty power play that was a poor look for the club and spoke volumes about the coach.I cant recall a player of Farahs calibre who has given that length of service to one club ever being treated so poorly leading up to a milestone game
Farah has moved on, the club is still crying over salary cap problems, our defence is just as poor as it has always been and the attack that was so stifled….. 8 points to us- 82 :to our opposition in the last two weeks speaks for itself
Yes its a weaker roster than many clubs - but I see no improvement in this squad after two years under JT. Just see a coach who has no answers who spent too much energy on a vendetta than coaching what was in front of him..
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I reckon Taylor has a couple of games to turn it around.

If we're 1-4 after five rounds and we continue to get shellacked, he's as good as gone.

He has had his chance, sacked assisstants and defensive coaches in 3 straight offseasons he has been here, well no more chances or excuses it is his turn to go now, not in 2 weeks.
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100%. He has more than had his chance. It's not working.
 
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I reckon Taylor has a couple of games to turn it around.

If we're 1-4 after five rounds and we continue to get shellacked, he's as good as gone.

He has had his chance, sacked assisstants and defensive coaches in 3 straight offseasons he has been here, well no more chances or excuses it is his turn to go now, not in 2 weeks.

100%. He has more than had his chance. It's not working.
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If it were me I'd march him now, I'm thinking the club will give him a couple of weeks.

I'd be ringing Mr. Cleary and asking him if he's sick of laying on the lounge.
 
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I reckon Taylor has a couple of games to turn it around.

If we're 1-4 after five rounds and we continue to get shellacked, he's as good as gone.

He has had his chance, sacked assisstants and defensive coaches in 3 straight offseasons he has been here, well no more chances or excuses it is his turn to go now, not in 2 weeks.

100%. He has more than had his chance. It's not working.

If it were me I'd march him now, I'm thinking the club will give him a couple of weeks.

I'd be ringing Mr. Cleary and asking him if he's sick of laying on the lounge.
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Yep me too. I think Cleary is the right option.
 
Does Cleary think he is? Its a 2 way street. Not as simple as snapping your fingers. He's got to want to come here. And if we want him, it wouldn't hurt throwing out some real coin. Otherwise they aren't serious and might as well persist with the current coach.
 
Obviously it's dependent on Cleary wanting to be here Gunners. But if we're even to be a chance to snare him we'd want to get in early enough. He might want to secure his future as well.

I can't see how Wests Ashfield will want to continue throwing good money after bad in signing cut price coaches. Get a decent coach in now with an open chequebook looming. They can build now, from scratch. They'll own their side from the get go.

After this year we're free and clear, sans Sirro.

I gave JT benefit of the doubt and while he can't coach the players to catch the ball it's clear that there's something inherently wrong when they clock off at the 30 minute mark. It's almost as though they give up the fight. It's very possible to win a game at 18-6 down, but our blokes bottled it big time.
 
it is not all Taylor fault, however I think he is part of the problem not the solution.

Are we improving under him? I think we are going backwards.

Look at the end of last year and start of this year. We have lost 5 from our last 7 and four of those games by 30 +. Defence and team morale looks average.

I don't know if Clearly could get this roster into the top 8\. However he might be able to set up some structures for the future and rebuild the club with a clean slate. I could not trust JT to do it
 
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I reckon Taylor has a couple of games to turn it around.

If we're 1-4 after five rounds and we continue to get shellacked, he's as good as gone.

He has had his chance, sacked assisstants and defensive coaches in 3 straight offseasons he has been here, well no more chances or excuses it is his turn to go now, not in 2 weeks.

100%. He has more than had his chance. It's not working.

If it were me I'd march him now, I'm thinking the club will give him a couple of weeks.

I'd be ringing Mr. Cleary and asking him if he's sick of laying on the lounge.
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That would be proactive, our club are never proactive, just reactive, we need to start planning for 2018 and beyond and that should not include Taylor. Cleary would be way more likely to attract a decent signing or three than Taylor ever would. He surely has an empty bucket of excuses after yesterday, he had 6 months to prepare them for this season and it has been a absolute disaster, 100 points against in 3 games, over 33 a game.
 
I'm not saying Taylor is the answer and I certainly don't think we have the right blend of players, however we have also run into two likely top 4 teams in a row.

I don't think the club will do anything yet, another couple of weeks and we might have a better idea.
 
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