Corona impact on NRL...?

One positive note is that V'Landys has pushed Toddy to the side and taken control.
Imagine if that idiot Beattie was still in charge?
Also looks like Wayne Pearce won't be losing his job on the board anytime soon after V'Landys talked him up while being interviewed on Fox.
 
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1138055) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1138052) said:
A reduced salary cap will just make the current inequities worse, due to 'brown paper bags' and payments to family members outside of the cap. A club like ours will be able to offer a top player $500k, whereas the Roosters will offer them $200k (like they do now normally) and a $1m on the side.

My other thought, the players now want a bigger piece of the pie, sook sook waa waa bloody whinge, they want some accountability on how the game is run? Well yes good idea, but, and it's a big but, how about they show some accountability themselves? How about agreeing to forfeit some pay when they bring the game into disrepute? It's not often CEOs or Chairmen are busted for drugs or illicit behaviour (except the Sharks, nice one guys).

Transparency? How about the players showing their tax returns so we can see what additional payments outside the salary cap they have received.

Wouldn't a dodgy payment like cash not go through the tax system...so they wouldn't include it in their taxable income..?
 
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1138059) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1138055) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1138052) said:
A reduced salary cap will just make the current inequities worse, due to 'brown paper bags' and payments to family members outside of the cap. A club like ours will be able to offer a top player $500k, whereas the Roosters will offer them $200k (like they do now normally) and a $1m on the side.

My other thought, the players now want a bigger piece of the pie, sook sook waa waa bloody whinge, they want some accountability on how the game is run? Well yes good idea, but, and it's a big but, how about they show some accountability themselves? How about agreeing to forfeit some pay when they bring the game into disrepute? It's not often CEOs or Chairmen are busted for drugs or illicit behaviour (except the Sharks, nice one guys).

Transparency? How about the players showing their tax returns so we can see what additional payments outside the salary cap they have received.

Wouldn't a dodgy payment like cash not go through the tax system...so they wouldn't include it in their taxable income..?

Cash in brown paper bags yes, but businesses are business and any other additional dodgy payments I am sure they would like to come off their bottom line (to reduce their own tax commitment) and so would be recorded and reported to the tax office.
 
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1138060) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1138059) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1138055) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1138052) said:
A reduced salary cap will just make the current inequities worse, due to 'brown paper bags' and payments to family members outside of the cap. A club like ours will be able to offer a top player $500k, whereas the Roosters will offer them $200k (like they do now normally) and a $1m on the side.

My other thought, the players now want a bigger piece of the pie, sook sook waa waa bloody whinge, they want some accountability on how the game is run? Well yes good idea, but, and it's a big but, how about they show some accountability themselves? How about agreeing to forfeit some pay when they bring the game into disrepute? It's not often CEOs or Chairmen are busted for drugs or illicit behaviour (except the Sharks, nice one guys).

Transparency? How about the players showing their tax returns so we can see what additional payments outside the salary cap they have received.

Wouldn't a dodgy payment like cash not go through the tax system...so they wouldn't include it in their taxable income..?

Cash in brown paper bags yes, but businesses are business and any additional dodgy payments I am sure they would like to come off their bottom line (to reduce their own tax commitment) and so would be recorded and reported to the tax office.

But if it's a payment from a business and recorded by the tax office how is it dodgy..Players can earn income from there own intellectual property...
 
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1138055) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1138052) said:
A reduced salary cap will just make the current inequities worse, due to 'brown paper bags' and payments to family members outside of the cap. A club like ours will be able to offer a top player $500k, whereas the Roosters will offer them $200k (like they do now normally) and a $1m on the side.

My other thought, the players now want a bigger piece of the pie, sook sook waa waa bloody whinge, they want some accountability on how the game is run? Well yes good idea, but, and it's a big but, how about they show some accountability themselves? How about agreeing to forfeit some pay when they bring the game into disrepute? It's not often CEOs or Chairmen are busted for drugs or illicit behaviour (except the Sharks, nice one guys).

Transparency? How about the players showing their tax returns so we can see what additional payments outside the salary cap they have received.

Problem is cash payments won’t show up.
 
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1138061) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1138060) said:
@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1138059) said:
@mike said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1138055) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1138052) said:
A reduced salary cap will just make the current inequities worse, due to 'brown paper bags' and payments to family members outside of the cap. A club like ours will be able to offer a top player $500k, whereas the Roosters will offer them $200k (like they do now normally) and a $1m on the side.

My other thought, the players now want a bigger piece of the pie, sook sook waa waa bloody whinge, they want some accountability on how the game is run? Well yes good idea, but, and it's a big but, how about they show some accountability themselves? How about agreeing to forfeit some pay when they bring the game into disrepute? It's not often CEOs or Chairmen are busted for drugs or illicit behaviour (except the Sharks, nice one guys).

Transparency? How about the players showing their tax returns so we can see what additional payments outside the salary cap they have received.

Wouldn't a dodgy payment like cash not go through the tax system...so they wouldn't include it in their taxable income..?

Cash in brown paper bags yes, but businesses are business and any additional dodgy payments I am sure they would like to come off their bottom line (to reduce their own tax commitment) and so would be recorded and reported to the tax office.

But if it's a payment from a business and recorded by the tax office how is it dodgy..Players can earn income from there own intellectual property...

Depends how the payment was organised. Seeing the incomes tax records we allow the questions to be asked. ie has a third party company been set up specifically for the purpose of bypassing salary cap restrictions and paying players. Have companies already associated with a club been making undeclared salary cap payments to players.
 
As a result of the suspension of the 2020 Telstra Premiership season, Wests Tigers have today made the difficult decision to stand down the majority of its football and administrative staff.
https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2020/03/31/wests-tigers-update-on-staff
 
@WT2K said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1138136) said:
As a result of the suspension of the 2020 Telstra Premiership season, Wests Tigers have today made the difficult decision to stand down the majority of its football and administrative staff.
https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2020/03/31/wests-tigers-update-on-staff

correct decision

survivial of the club is vitial
 
@JD-Tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1138052) said:
A reduced salary cap will just make the current inequities worse, due to 'brown paper bags' and payments to family members outside of the cap. A club like ours will be able to offer a top player $500k, whereas the Roosters will offer them $200k (like they do now normally) and a $1m on the side.

My other thought, the players now want a bigger piece of the pie, sook sook waa waa bloody whinge, they want some accountability on how the game is run? Well yes good idea, but, and it's a big but, how about they show some accountability themselves? How about agreeing to forfeit some pay when they bring the game into disrepute? It's not often CEOs or Chairmen are busted for drugs or illicit behaviour (except the Sharks, nice one guys).

Latrells contract goes from $600,000 a season to $360,000 a season
That's a big difference from over $1,000,000 a season he was apparently offered
$360,000 is about right for Latrell based on his two games for south's
 
Some of the people on bigger contracts shouldnt technically be all huff and puff about losing some of there salary imo
 
From the Daily Telegraph..

Penrith are preparing to axe several teams from the seven grade competitions they play in as part of the game’s brutal cost-cutting measures.

The Panthers outlay nearly $4 million a year to run sides in the Canterbury Cup, Jersey Flegg, SG Ball, Harold Matthews Cup, Laurie Daley Cup, Andrew Johns Cup and Tarsha Gale Cup.

However, that is about to stop next season.

The coaches and managers of these teams, along with their development and recruitment staff, rack up substantial costs for a club that has already been crippled by the coronavirus pandemic.

Penrith also have to cover living-away-from-home costs for young recruits, tertiary education allowances, medical expenses and clothing.

The numbers are being crunched and the club’s board will make a final decision later this year on which of the seven sides are to be cut.

“There is no way they can all stay – it would financial suicide if they do,” Panthers Group CEO Brian Fletcher said.

“I can’t possibly see us involved in all that in the future. It’s one area that will definitely change.

“Looking at the finances, there is no way in the world we could justify spending nearly $4 million a year developing those competitions. You have to look at it as if it’s your own business.

“Given the grant will be slashed, how can we afford to spend that sort of money. It doesn’t make sense.”

The NSWRL generously pays around $350,000 a season to clubs who participate in several of these competitions.

Fletcher didn’t want to predict which teams would be axed but said: “How can we afford to spend $4 million when we get a return of $350,000 from the NSWRL? These are the things now being looked at by the board.

“We just have to be ahead of the curve and to make sure we get all this out in front of us.

“This was OK five, six years ago when poker machines were flying but poker machines are now going south everywhere.

“Naturally, we have to balance the books. Expenses are the first thing you look at and this is a huge expense on the business.

“This will be put to the Panthers board when the (licensed) clubs reopen. We have to make a calculated decision. They would all be under the microscope.”

Reduced NRL grants will only add pressure to cut junior teams.

Like all clubs, Penrith are trying to survive without broadcast money and reduced revenue from sponsorship, merchandise and membership.

They own investment land but would be reluctant to sell off assets in the present climate.

“It’s a tough time, it’s tough for everybody,” Fletcher said. “You’ve got players, coaches, staff … it affects so many people. Anyone who says it’s not tough isn’t telling the truth.

“You just worry about the future because we have to come out the other end making sure all these people have got positions in the workforce, that rugby league continues and players’ wages don’t get destroyed.”

Penrith City Council has increased annual rent for Panthers Stadium from $90,000 to $180,000, which the club plans to query.
 
"All they want is a fair share."

Joey Leilua believes the players could leave over these brewing tensions. 😟
https://twitter.com/FOXNRL/status/1245236401966206976?s=19

"If there's no players, there's no game."

Joey Leilua isn't happy with the pay cuts the players are taking compared to NRL executives.
https://twitter.com/FOXNRL/status/1245235345018327040?s=19
 
I’m sick of this mentality. If players want to leave - go!! They are overpaid as it is. Cut the crap out of salaries and get the blokes there for the right reason.
Also
Their petulance over current pay cuts does nothing to build their profile in the community.
 
@WT2K said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1138437) said:
"All they want is a fair share."

Joey Leilua believes the players could leave over these brewing tensions. 😟
https://twitter.com/FOXNRL/status/1245236401966206976?s=19

"If there's no players, there's no game."

Joey Leilua isn't happy with the pay cuts the players are taking compared to NRL executives.
https://twitter.com/FOXNRL/status/1245235345018327040?s=19

Honestly, Tiger or not, this guy is a moron. There will always be players, regardless how many walk away. Half of them don’t know anything else and wouldn’t be able to anyway.
 
Breaking news: player deal expected to be finalised soon. As part of deal, Todd Greenberg has agreed to take same pay deal as the players. Smart call from the CEO.
https://twitter.com/brentread_7/status/1245252483317772289?s=19
 
@WT2K said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1138477) said:
Breaking news: player deal expected to be finalised soon. As part of deal, Todd Greenberg has agreed to take same pay deal as the players. Smart call from the CEO.
https://twitter.com/brentread_7/status/1245252483317772289?s=19

Poor old Todd will take the pay cut then get shown the door come Sept.
 

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