Coronavirus Outbreak

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

I havent been here much because I was TERMINATED from my job because Im not double vaxxed against covid.....no jab no job...so I went to the doc for a medical exemption so I could work and he said no unless I have an adverse reaction to the vax...us.....free choice,my health,my body...

Good news for your co-workers.

Lol another tough guy. How ruthless of you mate

 

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

Is the booster shot mandatory?

For the majority not yet, but I think it’s a safe bet that sometime in the future it will be.

I don't think that is the plan.

@cochise if you catch COVID and beat it, NSW Health give you a 6 month exemption from getting the vaccine in writing. Does that mean then the vaccinated will have to get boosters every 6 months? Is getting COVID and having a natural immunity better than the vaccine and boosters?

The difference is negligible but getting vaccinated is better in reducing risk of death or long term illness… Better to think of a booster as the third dose. When the vaccine was originally released for emergency use we weren’t sure what dosage would be needed as it was too early to tell. Turns out we need 3 and in it is hoped that will be all that is needed for long term immunity. There are other vaccinations that require 3 doses which we receive in childhood (I think hep?). Most require 2. Covid needs 3.

For now. We don’t know if COVID will mutate again and evade the vaccines. Then we start again?

So let's not bother?

@cochise isn’t that what happens though? the virus mutates, the vaccines may become in effective and back to the drawing board. The only defence we have then is our immune system

It works like this but it's not that bad. The flu requires a new vaccine every year. It's basically has an expiry date of a year. The COVID vaccines that are working so well are the same vaccine against Delta as against whatever strain they developed the vaccines under.

My take is that you are also making immunity too simplistic. A better way to think of it is being vaccinated is going to provide you better protection. I don't understand the down side. You have no immunity until you catch it or you are vaccinated. Then you develop immunity. Why not take the vaccine and be safer.

@Earl you make some great points. However, I’m a bit old school and unscientific. There is also a religious aspect to my beliefs. I will always
back my body to fight any virus rather than put something artificial
In it that we don’t know the long term impacts of.

Yeah, who cares about the vulnerable. You must be really old school, we have been using vaccines since 1796.

@cochise i don’t feel this vaccine is safe in the long run mate. Has nothing to do with not caring about the vulnerable. If you knew me
On a personal level, you wouldn’t be so quick to judge me as that type
of person.

I don't think any vaccines have had any negative effects 8 weeks post getting vaccinated. I'm not trying to be slack but there is no rational reason to think the COVID vaccine isn't safe.

As a side point I'll mention who the vulnerable are. My dad is a retired doctor and he told me it was typically people having chemotherapy.

I'll also add I don't think at the vaccine levels we have now that the unvaccinated are a big risk to the rest of society. They've typically free loaded into a much better situation. I think the main risk is too themselves.

I’ll correct you @Earl. The unvaxed have not free loaded, as we all have been subject to the same restrictions of which the unvaxed are now losing there jobs and still restricted in there movements. So to say freeloaded is not right

I havent been here much because I was TERMINATED from my job because Im not double vaxxed against covid.....no jab no job...so I went to the doc for a medical exemption so I could work and he said no unless I have an adverse reaction to the vax....hello doc I have had a history of blood clotting and I prefer to take my chances on something not much worse than a common flu...

I know most will get all huffy about what I said....go do some research and you will find out just what a fear mongering scare this crap was for the sake of big pharma,faucci and gates...
I will even go as far as saying the PCR tests are giving more false positives than neg and nearly all deaths in hospitals are put down to covid ...even old age ,heart attacks and car accidents..

Have a great xmas guys stay safe and bring on 2022 season....

I will leave you with what our Lord Jesus Christ said on the cross before he was lanced...

""Forgive them Father for they know not what they do"


thats for the Govt,you know the people who are supposed to look after us as they work for us...not oppress or divide us.....free choice,my health,my body...

Stay strong mate, sorry to hear. Us apparent (freeloaders) will eventually be allowed back into the community soon. They can’t lock us up forever. ***it’s a disease of the vaxxed at the moment as they are the only ones spreading it around.*** Rumour has it we will all be restricted over Christmas and New Years anyway, including the vaxxed, to prevent a super spreader event,

Sorry to spoil your story with some facts. It is overwhelmingly unvaxxed people suffering at the moment.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/news/Pages/20211108_01.aspx

Is the booster shot mandatory?

For the majority not yet, but I think it’s a safe bet that sometime in the future it will be.

I don't think that is the plan.

@cochise if you catch COVID and beat it, NSW Health give you a 6 month exemption from getting the vaccine in writing. Does that mean then the vaccinated will have to get boosters every 6 months? Is getting COVID and having a natural immunity better than the vaccine and boosters?

The difference is negligible but getting vaccinated is better in reducing risk of death or long term illness… Better to think of a booster as the third dose. When the vaccine was originally released for emergency use we weren’t sure what dosage would be needed as it was too early to tell. Turns out we need 3 and in it is hoped that will be all that is needed for long term immunity. There are other vaccinations that require 3 doses which we receive in childhood (I think hep?). Most require 2. Covid needs 3.

For now. We don’t know if COVID will mutate again and evade the vaccines. Then we start again?

So let's not bother?

@cochise isn’t that what happens though? the virus mutates, the vaccines may become in effective and back to the drawing board. The only defence we have then is our immune system

It works like this but it's not that bad. The flu requires a new vaccine every year. It's basically has an expiry date of a year. The COVID vaccines that are working so well are the same vaccine against Delta as against whatever strain they developed the vaccines under.

My take is that you are also making immunity too simplistic. A better way to think of it is being vaccinated is going to provide you better protection. I don't understand the down side. You have no immunity until you catch it or you are vaccinated. Then you develop immunity. Why not take the vaccine and be safer.

@Earl you make some great points. However, I’m a bit old school and unscientific. There is also a religious aspect to my beliefs. I will always
back my body to fight any virus rather than put something artificial
In it that we don’t know the long term impacts of.

Yeah, who cares about the vulnerable. You must be really old school, we have been using vaccines since 1796.

@cochise i don’t feel this vaccine is safe in the long run mate. Has nothing to do with not caring about the vulnerable. If you knew me
On a personal level, you wouldn’t be so quick to judge me as that type
of person.

I don't think any vaccines have had any negative effects 8 weeks post getting vaccinated. I'm not trying to be slack but there is no rational reason to think the COVID vaccine isn't safe.

As a side point I'll mention who the vulnerable are. My dad is a retired doctor and he told me it was typically people having chemotherapy.

I'll also add I don't think at the vaccine levels we have now that the unvaccinated are a big risk to the rest of society. They've typically free loaded into a much better situation. I think the main risk is too themselves.

I’ll correct you @Earl. The unvaxed have not free loaded, as we all have been subject to the same restrictions of which the unvaxed are now losing there jobs and still restricted in there movements. So to say freeloaded is not right

I havent been here much because I was TERMINATED from my job because Im not double vaxxed against covid.....no jab no job...so I went to the doc for a medical exemption so I could work and he said no unless I have an adverse reaction to the vax....hello doc I have had a history of blood clotting and I prefer to take my chances on something not much worse than a common flu...

I know most will get all huffy about what I said....go do some research and you will find out just what a fear mongering scare this crap was for the sake of big pharma,faucci and gates...
I will even go as far as saying the PCR tests are giving more false positives than neg and nearly all deaths in hospitals are put down to covid ...even old age ,heart attacks and car accidents..

Have a great xmas guys stay safe and bring on 2022 season....

I will leave you with what our Lord Jesus Christ said on the cross before he was lanced...

""Forgive them Father for they know not what they do"


thats for the Govt,you know the people who are supposed to look after us as they work for us...not oppress or divide us.....free choice,my health,my body...

Stay strong mate, sorry to hear. Us apparent (freeloaders) will eventually be allowed back into the community soon. They can’t lock us up forever. ***it’s a disease of the vaxxed at the moment as they are the only ones spreading it around.*** Rumour has it we will all be restricted over Christmas and New Years anyway, including the vaxxed, to prevent a super spreader event,

Sorry to spoil your story with some facts. It is overwhelmingly unvaxxed people suffering at the moment.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/news/Pages/20211108_01.aspx

Lol have you ever worked for the government? If you have you would know that the government lies with the best of them

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the-show/city-gym-owner-speaks-of-huge-shock-after-15-people-catch-covid-19--c-4352734.amp

Can’t be disease carrying vaxed people can it? Lol

 

[Pascoes_barber]

I havent been here much because I was TERMINATED from my job because Im not double vaxxed against covid.....no jab no job...so I went to the doc for a medical exemption so I could work and he said no unless I have an adverse reaction to the vax...us.....free choice,my health,my body...

Good news for your co-workers.

Lol another tough guy. How ruthless of you mate

And any customers/clients he interacted with too.

 

[Glenji95]

Hope everyone is safe and yes I do mean everyone

 

[earl]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/closure-of-hundreds-of-schools-childcare-centres-prompts-calls-for-rapid-test-rollout-20211110-p597pa.html

I just read this article on the school issue. I'm not a big fan of vaccinating kids but maybe it needs to happen to try and minimize school closures.

Mandatory vaccines for kids is going to cause huge dramas in this country. Just the other day I saw a parent who stated, “They are not putting that poison in my child”


I certainly hope that child learns a lot at school because it obvious they will learn bugger all from that parent

I believe that if they mandate vaccinating kids, home
Schooling is going to become very popular.

I bet that won't happen. I bet the vast majority of parents will want their kids vaccinated. I'd also add that vaccines are mandatory for kids and have been for years and home schooling has never kicked off.

It’s amazing the views of people based on were they live in Sydney. I bet even cultural backgrounds affect the views of people. Amazing

@Earl what are your views with respect to COVID vaccine and kids with ASD? Just asking mate, as you make a lot of valid points which I respect.

I'm not sure if it's really required. I think it might stop COVID spreading though. I have an 11 yo. I'm not concerned that he isn't vaccinated. My wife though is desperate to get him vaccinated.

 

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/closure-of-hundreds-of-schools-childcare-centres-prompts-calls-for-rapid-test-rollout-20211110-p597pa.html

I just read this article on the school issue. I'm not a big fan of vaccinating kids but maybe it needs to happen to try and minimize school closures.

Mandatory vaccines for kids is going to cause huge dramas in this country. Just the other day I saw a parent who stated, “They are not putting that poison in my child”


I certainly hope that child learns a lot at school because it obvious they will learn bugger all from that parent

I believe that if they mandate vaccinating kids, home
Schooling is going to become very popular.

I bet that won't happen. I bet the vast majority of parents will want their kids vaccinated. I'd also add that vaccines are mandatory for kids and have been for years and home schooling has never kicked off.

It’s amazing the views of people based on were they live in Sydney. I bet even cultural backgrounds affect the views of people. Amazing

@Earl what are your views with respect to COVID vaccine and kids with ASD? Just asking mate, as you make a lot of valid points which I respect.

I'm not sure if it's really required. I think it might stop COVID spreading though. I have an 11 yo. I'm not concerned that he isn't vaccinated. My wife though is desperate to get him vaccinated

Agree with you mate. My kids will not be getting vaxed. 1 billion percent

 

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

I havent been here much because I was TERMINATED from my job because Im not double vaxxed against covid.....no jab no job...so I went to the doc for a medical exemption so I could work and he said no unless I have an adverse reaction to the vax...us.....free choice,my health,my body...

Good news for your co-workers.

Lol another tough guy. How ruthless of you mate

And any customers/clients he interacted with too.

See my previous post. Never know mate, COVID might catch up with you. But don’t worry, the vaccine makes you bullet proof lol

 

[Pascoes_barber]

It certainly greatly improves your chances.

‘Lol’.

 

[Tiger5150]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/closure-of-hundreds-of-schools-childcare-centres-prompts-calls-for-rapid-test-rollout-20211110-p597pa.html

I just read this article on the school issue. I'm not a big fan of vaccinating kids but maybe it needs to happen to try and minimize school closures.

Mandatory vaccines for kids is going to cause huge dramas in this country. Just the other day I saw a parent who stated, “They are not putting that poison in my child”


I certainly hope that child learns a lot at school because it obvious they will learn bugger all from that parent

I believe that if they mandate vaccinating kids, home
Schooling is going to become very popular.

I bet that won't happen. I bet the vast majority of parents will want their kids vaccinated. I'd also add that vaccines are mandatory for kids and have been for years and home schooling has never kicked off.

It’s amazing the views of people based on were they live in Sydney. I bet even cultural backgrounds affect the views of people. Amazing

@Earl what are your views with respect to COVID vaccine and kids with ASD? Just asking mate, as you make a lot of valid points which I respect.

I'm not sure if it's really required. I think it might stop COVID spreading though. I have an 11 yo. I'm not concerned that he isn't vaccinated. My wife though is desperate to get him vaccinated.

Im very glad my kids are all older than 16. I dont think I'd want them vaccinated and there will be incredible pressure to get them vaccinated. Glad I dont have to make the decision.

 

[earl]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/closure-of-hundreds-of-schools-childcare-centres-prompts-calls-for-rapid-test-rollout-20211110-p597pa.html

I just read this article on the school issue. I'm not a big fan of vaccinating kids but maybe it needs to happen to try and minimize school closures.

Mandatory vaccines for kids is going to cause huge dramas in this country. Just the other day I saw a parent who stated, “They are not putting that poison in my child”


I certainly hope that child learns a lot at school because it obvious they will learn bugger all from that parent

I believe that if they mandate vaccinating kids, home
Schooling is going to become very popular.

I bet that won't happen. I bet the vast majority of parents will want their kids vaccinated. I'd also add that vaccines are mandatory for kids and have been for years and home schooling has never kicked off.

It’s amazing the views of people based on were they live in Sydney. I bet even cultural backgrounds affect the views of people. Amazing

@Earl what are your views with respect to COVID vaccine and kids with ASD? Just asking mate, as you make a lot of valid points which I respect.

I'm not sure if it's really required. I think it might stop COVID spreading though. I have an 11 yo. I'm not concerned that he isn't vaccinated. My wife though is desperate to get him vaccinated

Agree with you mate. My kids will not be getting vaxed. 1 billion percent

My 11 yo son will get vaxxed. I'm just not sure how useful it will be. I'd like to see the data. I think the benefit could be stopping the spread a little. I can understand the anti vaccine argument when it comes to kids though.

Do you believe in other vaccines or are you just anti-vaccine ? My friend who owns a gym is just anti COVID vaccine. I have another friend who owns a gym and he is anti-vaccine in general but he got the COVID vaccine. I think predominantly because he runs a gym. It's interesting.

 

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

It certainly greatly improves your chances.

‘Lol’.

Maybe. But you could be one of the unlucky ones, that ends up in hospital. Careful what you say cause karma can come back and bite you. Don’t make a mockery of other people misfortune. The bloke lost his job and his source of income. Imagine if that was you?

 

[earl]

Hope everyone is safe and yes I do mean everyone

I hope everyone is safe as well. That is why I push the vaccine though. I'm worried about my dad especially and he is doubly vaxxed.

I definitely hope all the unvaxxed are safe. I wouldn't wish a bad COVID experience on any of them.

We should stop and think though what these anti-vaccine arguments lead too in the worst case scenario. There are people in their 30's and 40's dying with young families simply because they didn't get vaccinated.

 

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

Hope everyone is safe and yes I do mean everyone

I hope everyone is safe as well. That is why I push the vaccine though. I'm worried about my dad especially and he is doubly vaxxed.

I definitely hope all the unvaxxed are safe. I wouldn't wish a bad COVID experience on any of them.

We should stop and think though what these anti-vaccine arguments lead too in the worst case scenario. There are people in their 30's and 40's dying with young families simply because they didn't get vaccinated.

@Earl the majority of the 30 to 40 unvaxed recovered from COVID without hospitalisation also though

 

[Pascoes_barber]

It certainly greatly improves your chances.

‘Lol’.

Maybe. But you could be one of the unlucky ones, that ends up in hospital. Careful what you say cause karma can come back and bite you. Don’t make a mockery of other people misfortune. The bloke lost his job and his source of income. Imagine if that was you?

That was his choice though.

 

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

It certainly greatly improves your chances.

‘Lol’.

Maybe. But you could be one of the unlucky ones, that ends up in hospital. Careful what you say cause karma can come back and bite you. Don’t make a mockery of other people misfortune. The bloke lost his job and his source of income. Imagine if that was you?

That was his choice though.

It was. However, you don’t need to stick the knife in.

 

[earl]

Hope everyone is safe and yes I do mean everyone

I hope everyone is safe as well. That is why I push the vaccine though. I'm worried about my dad especially and he is doubly vaxxed.

I definitely hope all the unvaxxed are safe. I wouldn't wish a bad COVID experience on any of them.

We should stop and think though what these anti-vaccine arguments lead too in the worst case scenario. There are people in their 30's and 40's dying with young families simply because they didn't get vaccinated.

@Earl the majority of the 30 to 40 unvaxed recovered from COVID without hospitalisation also though

I agree but some die. If they had just taken the vax they probably live.

I'm going to drum this point in again:-

Florida:- 60,197 deaths so far.
Australia:- 1,805 deaths so far

--> Florida has a smaller population than Australia. The problem is that a higher percentage of people refuse to get vaccinated plus they complain about any lockdowns.

Just to add to that point Australia's biggest killer is heart disease with about 18,000 deaths per year. COVID is a big killer if you don't take the right action.

 

[fibrodreaming]

COVID is not a beat up at all. The best way for me to prove that is to use Florida as an example. Something like 50k or 60k deaths with a population smaller than Australia and probably better health care. Their problem is really simple - a low vaccination rate and some silly idea they have of freedom.

Actually, Florida is a high vaxx state with 80% of over 12's and 99% of 65+, so this “it was lack of vaxx” argument doesn't hold water.

Moreover, summer seasonal hospitalization and deaths in Florida were worse in 2021 than in 2020. (Summer is the season for respiratory illness in the tropics.)

Florida doesn't fit the narrative.

 

[Pascoes_barber]

Better off using NSW stats, they’re far more relevant to anyone here.

 

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

Hope everyone is safe and yes I do mean everyone

I hope everyone is safe as well. That is why I push the vaccine though. I'm worried about my dad especially and he is doubly vaxxed.

I definitely hope all the unvaxxed are safe. I wouldn't wish a bad COVID experience on any of them.

We should stop and think though what these anti-vaccine arguments lead too in the worst case scenario. There are people in their 30's and 40's dying with young families simply because they didn't get vaccinated.

@Earl the majority of the 30 to 40 unvaxed recovered from COVID without hospitalisation also though

I agree but some die. If they had just taken the vax they probably live.

I'm going to drum this point in again:-

Florida:- 60,197 deaths so far.
Australia:- 1,805 deaths so far

--Florida has a smaller population than Australia. The problem is that a higher percentage of people refuse to get vaccinated plus they complain about any lockdowns.

Just to add to that point Australia's biggest killer is heart disease with about 18,000 deaths per year. COVID is a big killer if you don't take the right action.

How many people die of the flu in Australia each year for comparison?

 

[TrueTiger]

Hope everyone is safe and yes I do mean everyone

I hope everyone is safe as well. That is why I push the vaccine though. I'm worried about my dad especially and he is doubly vaxxed.

I definitely hope all the unvaxxed are safe. I wouldn't wish a bad COVID experience on any of them.

We should stop and think though what these anti-vaccine arguments lead too in the worst case scenario. There are people in their 30's and 40's dying with young families simply because they didn't get vaccinated.

@Earl the majority of the 30 to 40 unvaxed recovered from COVID without hospitalisation also though

I agree but some die. If they had just taken the vax they probably live.

I'm going to drum this point in again:-

Florida:- 60,197 deaths so far.
Australia:- 1,805 deaths so far

--Florida has a smaller population than Australia. The problem is that a higher percentage of people refuse to get vaccinated plus they complain about any lockdowns.

Just to add to that point Australia's biggest killer is heart disease with about 18,000 deaths per year. COVID is a big killer if you don't take the right action.

How many people die of the flu in Australia each year for comparison?

Thanks for your support Eyeofthetiger...
If you type in duckduckgo search engine....then bitchute..
search..Restored republic via a GCR special report as of Nov 10 2021..this may enlighten some peoples way of thinking ...its purely up to the individual....
some of the info is from the USA military working with some civillians...keep an open mind and keep safe mate...