Coronavirus Outbreak

[cochise]

I have it available to me through work.
I passed on it.

No interest, no effect.



Michael Yeadon, former Vice President and Chief Science Officer of Pfizer, where he worked for 16 years said it's 14 to 18 months after you get vaccinated that he thinks the problems will start so wait 19 months just to be Shaw

How long to wait to be sure?

18 months to be free from problems the human genome is made up of 8 percent viruses so it's an interesting time to be alive

So you joined just to tell us this?



No been reading for along time I remember reading Tiger gran and when willow had a different avatar but never wanted to comment just like to read

I will be getting my jab in 12 hours.

 

[Meganata]

I have it available to me through work.
I passed on it.

No interest, no effect.



Michael Yeadon, former Vice President and Chief Science Officer of Pfizer, where he worked for 16 years said it's 14 to 18 months after you get vaccinated that he thinks the problems will start so wait 19 months just to be Shaw

How long to wait to be sure?

18 months to be free from problems the human genome is made up of 8 percent viruses so it's an interesting time to be alive

So you joined just to tell us this?



No been reading for along time I remember reading Tiger gran and when willow had a different avatar but never wanted to comment just like to read

I will be getting my jab in 12 hours.

I hope all goes well for you

 

[cochise]

I have it available to me through work.
I passed on it.

No interest, no effect.



Michael Yeadon, former Vice President and Chief Science Officer of Pfizer, where he worked for 16 years said it's 14 to 18 months after you get vaccinated that he thinks the problems will start so wait 19 months just to be Shaw

How long to wait to be sure?

18 months to be free from problems the human genome is made up of 8 percent viruses so it's an interesting time to be alive

So you joined just to tell us this?



No been reading for along time I remember reading Tiger gran and when willow had a different avatar but never wanted to comment just like to read

I will be getting my jab in 12 hours.



I hope all goes well for you

The best way to get this country back to normal is to get this vaccination process completed.

 

[Meganata]

I have it available to me through work.
I passed on it.

No interest, no effect.



Michael Yeadon, former Vice President and Chief Science Officer of Pfizer, where he worked for 16 years said it's 14 to 18 months after you get vaccinated that he thinks the problems will start so wait 19 months just to be Shaw

How long to wait to be sure?

18 months to be free from problems the human genome is made up of 8 percent viruses so it's an interesting time to be alive

So you joined just to tell us this?



No been reading for along time I remember reading Tiger gran and when willow had a different avatar but never wanted to comment just like to read

I will be getting my jab in 12 hours.



I hope all goes well for you

The best way to get this country back to normal is to get this vaccination process completed.

I don't think we will ever go back to normal it feels like the whole world has been turned upside down

 

[cochise]

I have it available to me through work.
I passed on it.

No interest, no effect.



Michael Yeadon, former Vice President and Chief Science Officer of Pfizer, where he worked for 16 years said it's 14 to 18 months after you get vaccinated that he thinks the problems will start so wait 19 months just to be Shaw

How long to wait to be sure?

18 months to be free from problems the human genome is made up of 8 percent viruses so it's an interesting time to be alive

So you joined just to tell us this?



No been reading for along time I remember reading Tiger gran and when willow had a different avatar but never wanted to comment just like to read

I will be getting my jab in 12 hours.



I hope all goes well for you

The best way to get this country back to normal is to get this vaccination process completed.



I don't think we will ever go back to normal it feels like the whole world has been turned upside down

Definitely won't if we don't have a strong uptake of the vaccine.

 

[Meganata]

I have it available to me through work.
I passed on it.

No interest, no effect.



Michael Yeadon, former Vice President and Chief Science Officer of Pfizer, where he worked for 16 years said it's 14 to 18 months after you get vaccinated that he thinks the problems will start so wait 19 months just to be Shaw

How long to wait to be sure?

18 months to be free from problems the human genome is made up of 8 percent viruses so it's an interesting time to be alive

So you joined just to tell us this?



No been reading for along time I remember reading Tiger gran and when willow had a different avatar but never wanted to comment just like to read

I will be getting my jab in 12 hours.



I hope all goes well for you

The best way to get this country back to normal is to get this vaccination process completed.



I don't think we will ever go back to normal it feels like the whole world has been turned upside down

Definitely won't if we don't have a strong uptake of the vaccine.

Question for you in 12 hours will you feel like you have a coat of armour around you ? And if so what does it matter if people don't get the vaccine they die it's there fault

 

[cochise]

I have it available to me through work.
I passed on it.

No interest, no effect.



Michael Yeadon, former Vice President and Chief Science Officer of Pfizer, where he worked for 16 years said it's 14 to 18 months after you get vaccinated that he thinks the problems will start so wait 19 months just to be Shaw

How long to wait to be sure?

18 months to be free from problems the human genome is made up of 8 percent viruses so it's an interesting time to be alive

So you joined just to tell us this?



No been reading for along time I remember reading Tiger gran and when willow had a different avatar but never wanted to comment just like to read

I will be getting my jab in 12 hours.



I hope all goes well for you

The best way to get this country back to normal is to get this vaccination process completed.



I don't think we will ever go back to normal it feels like the whole world has been turned upside down

Definitely won't if we don't have a strong uptake of the vaccine.



Question for you in 12 hours will you feel like you have a coat of armour around you ? And if so what does it matter if people don't get the vaccine they die it's there fault

That is a pretty typical anti vaxxer response, not saying you are one but it is a very flawed argument.

 

[Meganata]

I have it available to me through work.
I passed on it.

No interest, no effect.



Michael Yeadon, former Vice President and Chief Science Officer of Pfizer, where he worked for 16 years said it's 14 to 18 months after you get vaccinated that he thinks the problems will start so wait 19 months just to be Shaw

How long to wait to be sure?

18 months to be free from problems the human genome is made up of 8 percent viruses so it's an interesting time to be alive

So you joined just to tell us this?



No been reading for along time I remember reading Tiger gran and when willow had a different avatar but never wanted to comment just like to read

I will be getting my jab in 12 hours.



I hope all goes well for you

The best way to get this country back to normal is to get this vaccination process completed.



I don't think we will ever go back to normal it feels like the whole world has been turned upside down

Definitely won't if we don't have a strong uptake of the vaccine.



Question for you in 12 hours will you feel like you have a coat of armour around you ? And if so what does it matter if people don't get the vaccine they die it's there fault

That is a pretty typical anti vaxxer response, not saying you are one but it is a very flawed argument.

I have all my vaccine up to date but the jury is still out for me on the covid vaccine most like no but I have no problem with people getting it I think it's abit like religion a very personal process

 

[cochise]

I have it available to me through work.
I passed on it.

No interest, no effect.



Michael Yeadon, former Vice President and Chief Science Officer of Pfizer, where he worked for 16 years said it's 14 to 18 months after you get vaccinated that he thinks the problems will start so wait 19 months just to be Shaw

How long to wait to be sure?

18 months to be free from problems the human genome is made up of 8 percent viruses so it's an interesting time to be alive

So you joined just to tell us this?



No been reading for along time I remember reading Tiger gran and when willow had a different avatar but never wanted to comment just like to read

I will be getting my jab in 12 hours.



I hope all goes well for you

The best way to get this country back to normal is to get this vaccination process completed.



I don't think we will ever go back to normal it feels like the whole world has been turned upside down

Definitely won't if we don't have a strong uptake of the vaccine.



Question for you in 12 hours will you feel like you have a coat of armour around you ? And if so what does it matter if people don't get the vaccine they die it's there fault

That is a pretty typical anti vaxxer response, not saying you are one but it is a very flawed argument.



I have all my vaccine up to date but the jury is still out for me on the covid vaccine most like no but I have no problem with people getting it I think it's abit like religion a very personal process

It still doesn't change the fact that your argument is flawed.

 

[tigger]

What makes the hypothesis that the virus started in the WIV lab in Wuhan a conspiracy theory? Serious question. More evidence points to this than the “natural” zoonotic hypothesis. Serious question, why is it a “conspiracy theory”?

Absolutely nothing T5150. The hypothesis that the virus may have leaked from the Wuhan lab is a valid one to pursue. My comment in relation to conspiracy theories was prompted by your comment:

"... there is no “smoking gun” and there never will be because the Chinese and those in the west with skin in the game (there are many now) will not allow it."

Conspiracy theories are essentially about people conspiring to do or not to do something. In this case the suggestion seems to be that there are vested interests in the West who will conspire to ensure that the truth about a lab leak can never be proven. Maybe there are, maybe there aren't. I suspect I'm never going to know

The point that I was trying to make was that the potential for such a conspiracy can't be held up as proof in itself that a lab leak did occur.

I'm not certain whether that was your intention. You do appear, to me, to be coming fairly strongly from the position that a lab leak did occur. I'm firmly on the fence on that one and will remain so until the evidence is much stronger. I suspect I may even be on the fence indefinitely.

My initial comments about Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon and QAnon were also not intended to suggest that the lab-leak hypothesis was a conspiracy theory. Rather that Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, by virtue of his own track record, and the company he kept, was lacking in credibility. His "China virus" rants were treated in the same way as the little boy who cried wolf.

 

[Meganata]

I have it available to me through work.
I passed on it.

No interest, no effect.



Michael Yeadon, former Vice President and Chief Science Officer of Pfizer, where he worked for 16 years said it's 14 to 18 months after you get vaccinated that he thinks the problems will start so wait 19 months just to be Shaw

How long to wait to be sure?

18 months to be free from problems the human genome is made up of 8 percent viruses so it's an interesting time to be alive

So you joined just to tell us this?



No been reading for along time I remember reading Tiger gran and when willow had a different avatar but never wanted to comment just like to read

I will be getting my jab in 12 hours.



I hope all goes well for you

The best way to get this country back to normal is to get this vaccination process completed.



I don't think we will ever go back to normal it feels like the whole world has been turned upside down

Definitely won't if we don't have a strong uptake of the vaccine.



Question for you in 12 hours will you feel like you have a coat of armour around you ? And if so what does it matter if people don't get the vaccine they die it's there fault

That is a pretty typical anti vaxxer response, not saying you are one but it is a very flawed argument.



I have all my vaccine up to date but the jury is still out for me on the covid vaccine most like no but I have no problem with people getting it I think it's abit like religion a very personal process

It still doesn't change the fact that your argument is flawed.

I can be and you could be 100 percent right but choice is part of life

 

[Tiger5150]

I have it available to me through work.
I passed on it.

No interest, no effect.



Michael Yeadon, former Vice President and Chief Science Officer of Pfizer, where he worked for 16 years said it's 14 to 18 months after you get vaccinated that he thinks the problems will start so wait 19 months just to be Shaw

How long to wait to be sure?

18 months to be free from problems the human genome is made up of 8 percent viruses so it's an interesting time to be alive

So you joined just to tell us this?



No been reading for along time I remember reading Tiger gran and when willow had a different avatar but never wanted to comment just like to read

I will be getting my jab in 12 hours.



I hope all goes well for you

The best way to get this country back to normal is to get this vaccination process completed.



I don't think we will ever go back to normal it feels like the whole world has been turned upside down

Definitely won't if we don't have a strong uptake of the vaccine.



Question for you in 12 hours will you feel like you have a coat of armour around you ? And if so what does it matter if people don't get the vaccine they die it's there fault

That is a pretty typical anti vaxxer response, not saying you are one but it is a very flawed argument.



I have all my vaccine up to date but the jury is still out for me on the covid vaccine most like no but I have no problem with people getting it I think it's abit like religion **a very personal** process

Except its not.

You are looking at it at an individual level, Cochise is looking at it from a population level. YOu have no problem with people getting it because if enough get it, you dont need to.

If enough dont, it wont protect you.

 

[Meganata]

I have it available to me through work.
I passed on it.

No interest, no effect.



Michael Yeadon, former Vice President and Chief Science Officer of Pfizer, where he worked for 16 years said it's 14 to 18 months after you get vaccinated that he thinks the problems will start so wait 19 months just to be Shaw

How long to wait to be sure?

18 months to be free from problems the human genome is made up of 8 percent viruses so it's an interesting time to be alive

So you joined just to tell us this?



No been reading for along time I remember reading Tiger gran and when willow had a different avatar but never wanted to comment just like to read

I will be getting my jab in 12 hours.



I hope all goes well for you

The best way to get this country back to normal is to get this vaccination process completed.



I don't think we will ever go back to normal it feels like the whole world has been turned upside down

Definitely won't if we don't have a strong uptake of the vaccine.



Question for you in 12 hours will you feel like you have a coat of armour around you ? And if so what does it matter if people don't get the vaccine they die it's there fault

That is a pretty typical anti vaxxer response, not saying you are one but it is a very flawed argument.



I have all my vaccine up to date but the jury is still out for me on the covid vaccine most like no but I have no problem with people getting it I think it's abit like religion **a very personal** process


Except its not.

You are looking at it at an individual level, Cochise is looking at it from a population level. YOu have no problem with people getting it because if enough get it, you dont need to.

If enough dont, it wont protect you.

I am not scared of death when the times Ces so be it but if only the people who choose not to get it die what's the problem

 

[cochise]

I have it available to me through work.
I passed on it.

No interest, no effect.



Michael Yeadon, former Vice President and Chief Science Officer of Pfizer, where he worked for 16 years said it's 14 to 18 months after you get vaccinated that he thinks the problems will start so wait 19 months just to be Shaw

How long to wait to be sure?

18 months to be free from problems the human genome is made up of 8 percent viruses so it's an interesting time to be alive

So you joined just to tell us this?



No been reading for along time I remember reading Tiger gran and when willow had a different avatar but never wanted to comment just like to read

I will be getting my jab in 12 hours.



I hope all goes well for you

The best way to get this country back to normal is to get this vaccination process completed.



I don't think we will ever go back to normal it feels like the whole world has been turned upside down

Definitely won't if we don't have a strong uptake of the vaccine.



Question for you in 12 hours will you feel like you have a coat of armour around you ? And if so what does it matter if people don't get the vaccine they die it's there fault

That is a pretty typical anti vaxxer response, not saying you are one but it is a very flawed argument.



I have all my vaccine up to date but the jury is still out for me on the covid vaccine most like no but I have no problem with people getting it I think it's abit like religion **a very personal** process


Except its not.

You are looking at it at an individual level, Cochise is looking at it from a population level. YOu have no problem with people getting it because if enough get it, you dont need to.

If enough dont, it wont protect you.

It most definitely isn't an individual thing, the problem I have with that argument is there are people who legitimately can not get a vaccine, these are the people those making a person choice are putting at risk. The only way to protect people who can not have a vaccine is by everyone else getting vaccinated. To me the individual choice is the selfish choice.

 

[cochise]

I have it available to me through work.
I passed on it.

No interest, no effect.



Michael Yeadon, former Vice President and Chief Science Officer of Pfizer, where he worked for 16 years said it's 14 to 18 months after you get vaccinated that he thinks the problems will start so wait 19 months just to be Shaw

How long to wait to be sure?

18 months to be free from problems the human genome is made up of 8 percent viruses so it's an interesting time to be alive

So you joined just to tell us this?



No been reading for along time I remember reading Tiger gran and when willow had a different avatar but never wanted to comment just like to read

I will be getting my jab in 12 hours.



I hope all goes well for you

The best way to get this country back to normal is to get this vaccination process completed.



I don't think we will ever go back to normal it feels like the whole world has been turned upside down

Definitely won't if we don't have a strong uptake of the vaccine.



Question for you in 12 hours will you feel like you have a coat of armour around you ? And if so what does it matter if people don't get the vaccine they die it's there fault

That is a pretty typical anti vaxxer response, not saying you are one but it is a very flawed argument.



I have all my vaccine up to date but the jury is still out for me on the covid vaccine most like no but I have no problem with people getting it I think it's abit like religion **a very personal** process


Except its not.

You are looking at it at an individual level, Cochise is looking at it from a population level. YOu have no problem with people getting it because if enough get it, you dont need to.

If enough dont, it wont protect you.



I am not scared of death when the times Ces so be it but if only the people who choose not to get it die what's the problem

See that is what you don't understand, there are people who legitimately can not be vaccinated.

 

[Meganata]

I have it available to me through work.
I passed on it.

No interest, no effect.



Michael Yeadon, former Vice President and Chief Science Officer of Pfizer, where he worked for 16 years said it's 14 to 18 months after you get vaccinated that he thinks the problems will start so wait 19 months just to be Shaw

How long to wait to be sure?

18 months to be free from problems the human genome is made up of 8 percent viruses so it's an interesting time to be alive

So you joined just to tell us this?



No been reading for along time I remember reading Tiger gran and when willow had a different avatar but never wanted to comment just like to read

I will be getting my jab in 12 hours.



I hope all goes well for you

The best way to get this country back to normal is to get this vaccination process completed.



I don't think we will ever go back to normal it feels like the whole world has been turned upside down

Definitely won't if we don't have a strong uptake of the vaccine.



Question for you in 12 hours will you feel like you have a coat of armour around you ? And if so what does it matter if people don't get the vaccine they die it's there fault

That is a pretty typical anti vaxxer response, not saying you are one but it is a very flawed argument.



I have all my vaccine up to date but the jury is still out for me on the covid vaccine most like no but I have no problem with people getting it I think it's abit like religion **a very personal** process


Except its not.

You are looking at it at an individual level, Cochise is looking at it from a population level. YOu have no problem with people getting it because if enough get it, you dont need to.

If enough dont, it wont protect you.



I am not scared of death when the times Ces so be it but if only the people who choose not to get it die what's the problem

See that is what you don't understand, there are people who legitimately can not be vaccinated.

I understand what you are saying they can wear a face mask if they choose but I for one will not tell another person what they can and can put in there body

 

[Meganata]

I have it available to me through work.
I passed on it.

No interest, no effect.



Michael Yeadon, former Vice President and Chief Science Officer of Pfizer, where he worked for 16 years said it's 14 to 18 months after you get vaccinated that he thinks the problems will start so wait 19 months just to be Shaw

How long to wait to be sure?

18 months to be free from problems the human genome is made up of 8 percent viruses so it's an interesting time to be alive

So you joined just to tell us this?



No been reading for along time I remember reading Tiger gran and when willow had a different avatar but never wanted to comment just like to read

I will be getting my jab in 12 hours.



I hope all goes well for you

The best way to get this country back to normal is to get this vaccination process completed.



I don't think we will ever go back to normal it feels like the whole world has been turned upside down

Definitely won't if we don't have a strong uptake of the vaccine.



Question for you in 12 hours will you feel like you have a coat of armour around you ? And if so what does it matter if people don't get the vaccine they die it's there fault

That is a pretty typical anti vaxxer response, not saying you are one but it is a very flawed argument.



I have all my vaccine up to date but the jury is still out for me on the covid vaccine most like no but I have no problem with people getting it I think it's abit like religion **a very personal** process


Except its not.

You are looking at it at an individual level, Cochise is looking at it from a population level. YOu have no problem with people getting it because if enough get it, you dont need to.

If enough dont, it wont protect you.



I am not scared of death when the times Ces so be it but if only the people who choose not to get it die what's the problem

See that is what you don't understand, there are people who legitimately can not be vaccinated.

Can and can not put in there body

Having trouble with typing on the phone

 

[cochise]

I have it available to me through work.
I passed on it.

No interest, no effect.



Michael Yeadon, former Vice President and Chief Science Officer of Pfizer, where he worked for 16 years said it's 14 to 18 months after you get vaccinated that he thinks the problems will start so wait 19 months just to be Shaw

How long to wait to be sure?

18 months to be free from problems the human genome is made up of 8 percent viruses so it's an interesting time to be alive

So you joined just to tell us this?



No been reading for along time I remember reading Tiger gran and when willow had a different avatar but never wanted to comment just like to read

I will be getting my jab in 12 hours.



I hope all goes well for you

The best way to get this country back to normal is to get this vaccination process completed.



I don't think we will ever go back to normal it feels like the whole world has been turned upside down

Definitely won't if we don't have a strong uptake of the vaccine.



Question for you in 12 hours will you feel like you have a coat of armour around you ? And if so what does it matter if people don't get the vaccine they die it's there fault

That is a pretty typical anti vaxxer response, not saying you are one but it is a very flawed argument.



I have all my vaccine up to date but the jury is still out for me on the covid vaccine most like no but I have no problem with people getting it I think it's abit like religion **a very personal** process


Except its not.

You are looking at it at an individual level, Cochise is looking at it from a population level. YOu have no problem with people getting it because if enough get it, you dont need to.

If enough dont, it wont protect you.



I am not scared of death when the times Ces so be it but if only the people who choose not to get it die what's the problem

See that is what you don't understand, there are people who legitimately can not be vaccinated.



I understand what you are saying they can wear a face mask if they choose but I for one will not tell another person what they can and can put in there body

Which is why that is a selfish choice, it is not just confining people to wearing a face mask it is confining people to their homes and apart from their families by making that decision.

 

[Meganata]

I have it available to me through work.
I passed on it.

No interest, no effect.



Michael Yeadon, former Vice President and Chief Science Officer of Pfizer, where he worked for 16 years said it's 14 to 18 months after you get vaccinated that he thinks the problems will start so wait 19 months just to be Shaw

How long to wait to be sure?

18 months to be free from problems the human genome is made up of 8 percent viruses so it's an interesting time to be alive

So you joined just to tell us this?



No been reading for along time I remember reading Tiger gran and when willow had a different avatar but never wanted to comment just like to read

I will be getting my jab in 12 hours.



I hope all goes well for you

The best way to get this country back to normal is to get this vaccination process completed.



I don't think we will ever go back to normal it feels like the whole world has been turned upside down

Definitely won't if we don't have a strong uptake of the vaccine.



Question for you in 12 hours will you feel like you have a coat of armour around you ? And if so what does it matter if people don't get the vaccine they die it's there fault

That is a pretty typical anti vaxxer response, not saying you are one but it is a very flawed argument.



I have all my vaccine up to date but the jury is still out for me on the covid vaccine most like no but I have no problem with people getting it I think it's abit like religion **a very personal** process


Except its not.

You are looking at it at an individual level, Cochise is looking at it from a population level. YOu have no problem with people getting it because if enough get it, you dont need to.

If enough dont, it wont protect you.



I am not scared of death when the times Ces so be it but if only the people who choose not to get it die what's the problem

See that is what you don't understand, there are people who legitimately can not be vaccinated.



I understand what you are saying they can wear a face mask if they choose but I for one will not tell another person what they can and can put in there body

Which is why that is a selfish choice, it is not just confining people to wearing a face mask it is confining people to their homes and a part from their families by making that decision.

And that is why nothing will ever go back to normal ..

Or we can take a trick from yesteryear and make the ones not vaccinated wear some type of colour on there clothing to show they are the evil ones

 

[cochise]

I have it available to me through work.
I passed on it.

No interest, no effect.



Michael Yeadon, former Vice President and Chief Science Officer of Pfizer, where he worked for 16 years said it's 14 to 18 months after you get vaccinated that he thinks the problems will start so wait 19 months just to be Shaw

How long to wait to be sure?

18 months to be free from problems the human genome is made up of 8 percent viruses so it's an interesting time to be alive

So you joined just to tell us this?



No been reading for along time I remember reading Tiger gran and when willow had a different avatar but never wanted to comment just like to read

I will be getting my jab in 12 hours.



I hope all goes well for you

The best way to get this country back to normal is to get this vaccination process completed.



I don't think we will ever go back to normal it feels like the whole world has been turned upside down

Definitely won't if we don't have a strong uptake of the vaccine.



Question for you in 12 hours will you feel like you have a coat of armour around you ? And if so what does it matter if people don't get the vaccine they die it's there fault

That is a pretty typical anti vaxxer response, not saying you are one but it is a very flawed argument.



I have all my vaccine up to date but the jury is still out for me on the covid vaccine most like no but I have no problem with people getting it I think it's abit like religion **a very personal** process


Except its not.

You are looking at it at an individual level, Cochise is looking at it from a population level. YOu have no problem with people getting it because if enough get it, you dont need to.

If enough dont, it wont protect you.



I am not scared of death when the times Ces so be it but if only the people who choose not to get it die what's the problem

See that is what you don't understand, there are people who legitimately can not be vaccinated.



I understand what you are saying they can wear a face mask if they choose but I for one will not tell another person what they can and can put in there body

Which is why that is a selfish choice, it is not just confining people to wearing a face mask it is confining people to their homes and a part from their families by making that decision.



And that is why nothing will ever go back to normal ..

Or we can take a trick from yesteryear and make the ones not vaccinated wear some type of colour on there clothing to show they are the evil ones

It will go much closer to normal if people will just get the vaccine.