Crichton to roosters
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You need to look at their whole top 30 in any assessment. The following players who are in their top 30 would be on bottom dollar contracts or close to:
- Poasa Faamausili
- Mitch Cornish
- Lindsay Collins
- Brendan Frei
- Grant Garvey
- Dean Matterson
- Paul Momirovski
- Sean O'Sullivan
- Victor Radley
- Chris Smith
- Sitili Tupouniua
- Eloni Vunakece
To say that those 12 would average $150K each would be conservative. That's $1.8 million.
The following 4 could quite reasonably be at or about the $200K mark considering when they signed their current contracts:
- Joseph Manu
- Nat Butcher
- Reece Robinson
- Zane Tetevano
So another $800K takes it to $2.6 million for 16 players, leaving $6.8 million for 14 at an average of $485,000 per player.
Aubusson, Matterson, Liu, Tupou, Mitchell, Ferguson and Taukeiaho are all going to be on less than that given the circumstances in which they signed their con tracts/what they are worth.
JWH, Napa, Keary, Tedesco, Cronk, Cordner and Friend you would think would command close to 500 as a minimum and subsantially more in the case of Tedesco, Cronk and Cordner. Those are the kinds of players that are likely to be able to attract solid TPA's though.
It is just a very different approach to roster management. They will not have spent much on their depth at all. By contrast how many players do you think we have that would be on bottom dollar or close to it? Godinet…Gamble maybe? Felise and Chee-Kam would be above bottom dollar, as would Thompson and MWZ. They are probably our 6 cheapest contracts. After that they're probably all $200K plus.
Spud_Murphy
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Yes and all the best players still want to join them! I really wish some of these guys would show some integrity and forego the extra cash and TPA's being thrown at them and say NO to the bloody Roosters for once. I understand that most players are out for all they can get financially, but in all honesty, they still would be doing a hell of a lot better than most people in the world, on the money they're on now, if they stayed with their current clubs or even joined a 'lesser' club than Easts.
Winning a premiership with a team choc full of superstars would be a hollow feeling compared to winning one with a bunch of honest first graders, who united together and became a great team, imo.
goldcoast_tiger
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Ahhhhhh…..so systematic cheating is on a different plateau , is it LM ?, Onethat doesn’t affect teams culture ((even if it eventually is found that it affected probably three or four premiershipd and gave them an unfair advantage for years , in that they only had to get rid of one player.)
Anyway you can’t blame the Roosters for anything about the Pearce incident.
As I heard it, the dog never pressed charges against anyone, but he was seen around with a massive smile across his face.
He spends his time now forever searching for a bone .
R**oosters Relocate Headquarters To Bermuda In Effort To Stay Under Salary Cap**
WENDELL HUSSEY | Cadet Reporter | Contact
From Bondi to Bermuda, it’s a move that could shock the NRL to its core.
The Sydney Roosters have announced that they are planning on relocating their headquarters to the small North Atlantic Island of Bermuda.
It comes after the Sydney Roosters landed another big name signing in Angus Crichton and many in the sporting world were left wondering how long before the club came down in flames.
Phillip Olivio who works as the Head of Accounting at the Roosters explained that this whole salary cap thing can be worked around with a little bit of smart bookkeeping.
“The trick is not to go and do dumb sh,t like giving players boats and that like they did down in Melbourne,”
he said.
We asked Olivio whether the whole Parramatta Eels saga made then jump before they were pushed.
“Haha did you see what they were getting up to in Parra. They were putting these Third Party Agreements on napkins and then giving the boys cash…… Jesus Christ. Even if we stayed we wouldn’t be doing basic stuff like that.”
“You gotta play smart boys. We are off to The British Territory of Bermuda so we don’t get caught for rorting this thing. That way we can get ourselves a 2000’s Melbourne Storm team that’s actually on the books,” he said.
Olivio said that fans don’t have to worry, there will be no name changes or anything of the like, only a change of backdoor process to sign good players.
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WENDELL HUSSEY | Cadet Reporter | Contact
From Bondi to Bermuda, it’s a move that could shock the NRL to its core.
The Sydney Roosters have announced that they are planning on relocating their headquarters to the small North Atlantic Island of Bermuda.
It comes after the Sydney Roosters landed another big name signing in Angus Crichton and many in the sporting world were left wondering how long before the club came down in flames.
Phillip Olivio who works as the Head of Accounting at the Roosters explained that this whole salary cap thing can be worked around with a little bit of smart bookkeeping.
“The trick is not to go and do dumb sh,t like giving players boats and that like they did down in Melbourne,”
he said.
We asked Olivio whether the whole Parramatta Eels saga made then jump before they were pushed.
“Haha did you see what they were getting up to in Parra. They were putting these Third Party Agreements on napkins and then giving the boys cash…… Jesus Christ. Even if we stayed we wouldn’t be doing basic stuff like that.”
“You gotta play smart boys. We are off to The British Territory of Bermuda so we don’t get caught for rorting this thing. That way we can get ourselves a 2000’s Melbourne Storm team that’s actually on the books,” he said.
Olivio said that fans don’t have to worry, there will be no name changes or anything of the like, only a change of backdoor process to sign good players.
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innsaneink
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Youve obviously never experienced culture in a RL club….good or bad gct....theres more to it than results.
Its definitley no buzzword ...it exists
bigsiro
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Hiding TPA's?
What's the difference if they are hidden or not?
Because if TPA's (whether hidden or disclosed) are completely permissible regardless (i.e. considering restraint of trade amongst other things), then how is it cheating? Practically no TPA is truly at arms length anyway, so all TPA's are cheating in that sense. The system is a joke.
I agree with you in principle; just because everyone is doing it doesn't make it right. But to proclaim "I would rather lose" is a step too far for me. Believe it or not Tigers players have TPA's! So you/we are already doing that to win - just so shitly that we still don't win!
Moral high ground is overrated. Give me a premiership.
GNR4LIFE
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Uncle Nick has had something to say about the drama.
"We run our salary cap better than most clubs"
Hopefully someone can post the article.
"We run our salary cap better than most clubs"
Hopefully someone can post the article.
goldcoast_tiger
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From the experiences that I have experienced, (not as a FG player,a happy club is a winning club and most things involving I that club run well,
Clubs who are underachieving will always have more problems than ones who aren’t and underachievers will hardly be judged as a club with a great culture, clubs that win regularly can mostly be regarded as a good culture,
True culture is something that is built over a long time,
Sports clubs are up and down, good years then bad years
You can call it culture if you like
If the club is like we have been for the last three years then the
“Culture would be classed as terrible”
But if we make the eight for the next three years, we’ll be raving about our great “ culture.
Which really will be because of a new Coach and some better players, and winning more than we lose.
It’s not rocket science.
As others have said
Melbourne fits the mould of a great culture, yet participated in some of the worst cheating ever in the game, their so called culture stunk, but a very good Coach and some players that cheating enabled them to keep, kept winning and not long after , they miraculously were again held up as a club with a great culture
Why because they were common cheats, but ….....they keep winning because of a great Club Coach, and three top players that they should have never been able to keep
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Most people would say that Rupert Murdoch was the worst thing that could have happened to the game. I disagree. Nick Politis is by far is the worst thing that has happened to this game. He is the architect of the brown paper bags in this game that inspires others to follow him at other clubs.
tiger05premier
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Apparently rorters have left room in their cap next year just in case rabbits decide to release him early
Quote from Politis:
"We run our salary cap better than most clubs. We don't back-end contracts, we don't put in ratchet clauses that stymie some clubs,'' Politis told The Sydney Morning Herald.
''We don't have many third-party agreements"
:roll :roll
Pull the other one Nick, it plays Jingle bells!
"We run our salary cap better than most clubs. We don't back-end contracts, we don't put in ratchet clauses that stymie some clubs,'' Politis told The Sydney Morning Herald.
''We don't have many third-party agreements"
:roll :roll
Pull the other one Nick, it plays Jingle bells!
Spud_Murphy
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Souths fans are livid about this and rightly so. Reportedly, Crichton left them for only 50,000 more a season - not a huge difference, but of course he wants to win a Premiership :unamused: He hasn't even given Souths a chance to show what they can do, they still have a pretty good line up. He will probably play like crap next season.
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Everybody has different values, different ethics, standards etc.
For those that are happy to cheat, not have a hollow feeling after they or their team do this - good luck to them and I hope you enjoy their Premiership - if they win one.
Personally and I am only speaking for myself - I would rather not cheat in any form (never have, never will) and so am happy never to win one if I have to resort to that standard.
No moral high ground - just my own standard.
bigsiro
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Russell I’m afraid you missed my point.
I don’t cheat. Neither do you.
But the fact that our players already have TPAs in place means that we are cheating right now regardless, whether we like it or not.
I think this chat is possibly taking up too much real estate here.
Merry Xmas all!
I don’t cheat. Neither do you.
But the fact that our players already have TPAs in place means that we are cheating right now regardless, whether we like it or not.
I think this chat is possibly taking up too much real estate here.
Merry Xmas all!
Need to face the fact that good players want to play at the Roosters no matter how they run their cap.
They have turned over a heap of players in the past few years the difference is they replace them better than most other clubs - with equally good players. Good recruitment simple as that.
They have turned over a heap of players in the past few years the difference is they replace them better than most other clubs - with equally good players. Good recruitment simple as that.
