Cricket Season

[Jazza]

Hilfy out with a knee prob.
Mackay comes into the 12.
Bollinger likely to play i'd say.

 

[TheSunTanSuperman]

I'd be nice to see the doug man get more than one game. Precedent has been set, you get injured and someone comes in for you and does the job, you can kiss your spot goodbye. If guys like Clark and Lee get no security on their spots, I can't imagine Hilfenhaus getting any.

 

[Jazza]

I'd be nice to see the doug man get more than one game. Precedent has been set, you get injured and someone comes in for you and does the job, you can kiss your spot goodbye. If guys like Clark and Lee get no security on their spots, I can't imagine Hilfenhaus getting any.

Ponting loves Hilfenhaus he'll come back in I think.
If Bollinger has a big game then it wouldnt surprise me if Hilfenhaus comes in for Hauritz, especially at Perth with the Doctor.
Im not saying thats right but Hauritz and Clark seem to be the fallout guys.
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Also Hodge looks like he is going to retire after xmas from Sheffield Shield.

 

[citizen_cub]

3rd test team v west indies:

1.katich
2.hughes
3.ponting
4.clarke
5.north
6.watson
7.haddin
8.johnson
9.krezja
10.s.clark
11.hilfenhaus

stuff mike hussey. he's unfortunately past it, however, i feel sorry for him because he should've probably debuted around 2003 when steve waugh should've retired. he was great for 3 years, but his footwork is pretty crappy nowdays

 

[Jazza]

stuff mike hussey. he's unfortunately past it, however, i feel sorry for him because he should've probably debuted around 2003 when steve waugh should've retired. he was great for 3 years, but his footwork is pretty crappy nowdays

Yeh the problem that Huss had was that he wasnt scoring enough runs in the Shield, I think he was averaging around 35 and in England that was about double which inflated his First Class average to around 50\. And when Tugga retired, Katich, Symonds, Clarke and then Hodge were more the next in line, pretty much fighting it out for Waugh and Lehmann's spot. So plenty of competition.

I wouldve dropped Hussey in England and kept Hughes. Now we have an old and scratchy Hussey in the side, Watson out of position, and a confused Hughes (Although he is still getting some runs).

The selectors and players are saying Hussey was good in India, he was but I dont take much notice of form in different formats. If that were the case then Bevan wouldve been a shoe-in for the Test side, and Waugh wouldve been dropped from the odi side at the same time as Healy and Taylor.

 

[Jazza]

Geeves called in as cover for Siddle, no Clark, what a joke!

Never rated him.

 

[Geo]

Geeves called in as cover for Siddle, no Clark, what a joke!

Never rated him.

Isn't Clark injured…....?

 

[Jazza]

Geeves called in as cover for Siddle, no Clark, what a joke!

Never rated him.

Isn't Clark injured…....?

My bad, I forgot yep, stress fractures I think.

Still I dont think Geeves shouldve been picked, maybe Boonie, Cox and Punter had a say but I wouldve preferred Magoffin instead.

 

[TheSunTanSuperman]

Yet another undeserving victorian gets a baggy green.

Tasmania and Victoria getting a more than usual amount of players picked, coincides with the worst period for Australia in decades…...pretty big coincidence.

 

[magpie_mania]

katich posted early november.
hughes
ponting
Clarke
north
Watson
Haddin
Johnson
Bollinger
Clark
Sidde
Hauritz twelfth man I think theres a smokey we should try this year and thats throw STEVE SMITH FROM NSW
in he can turn it a mile and is a good batsmen hes our most exciting leggie since warne and I beieve hes only
20 or 21

I noticed smith scored 81 off 59 balls against tasmania the other day.The way he handled himself in the final of the t20 champions league final was superb with poise beyond his years.If he can continue to improve his bowling I think he can be a champion.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,26490318-5018870,00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[Jazza]

katich posted early november.
hughes
ponting
Clarke
north
Watson
Haddin
Johnson
Bollinger
Clark
Sidde
Hauritz twelfth man I think theres a smokey we should try this year and thats throw STEVE SMITH FROM NSW
in he can turn it a mile and is a good batsmen hes our most exciting leggie since warne and I beieve hes only
20 or 21

I noticed smith scored 81 off 59 balls against tasmania the other day.The way he handled himself in the final of the t20 champions league final was superb with poise beyond his years.If he can continue to improve his bowling I think he can be a champion.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,26490318-5018870,00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Recent Shield match:

Smith - 25 overs, 0/156
First Class average - 75

At the moment, he is a batting allrounder, I could understand more if maybe North or even Watson was injured, but at the moment his bowling isnt up to scratch to replace Hauritz. I think Krezja should be there instead.

Mackay has a pretty good record, I see him like a Paul Reiffel, nags a away at a fullish length, chips in with some wickets too, he could be handy at the WACA.

I still cant get over Geeves being there, he goes for runs, averages 34 on a deck that usually favours the seamers, over-rated imo.

 

[Peaches]

Smith and Geeves are lucky to be there in my opinion. Kresja is the number 2 spinner and has been in good from for Tasmania. He should have been called up if the selectors want a spinner. If they want a batsman who can bowl leggies they should have just promoted White back who has been in great form in ODIs and his bounce could actually trouble the Windies guys on the WACA pitch.

Geeves I have never rated. The Aussie quick bowling stocks are getting low with Hilfenhaus, Tait, Lee and Clark and all injured with Siddle now missing out. Dorey got a chance a couple of years ago and never really improved after that. Magoffin could have been an option but probably lacks that punch to be an international bowler, though I think is more deserving. Mackay has impressed when given the chance and is probably the next best quick going around at the moment. He is deffinately more deserving than Mick Lewis who got a chance similar to Dorey. One guy who seems to get bags of wickets and is in good form is young George from South Australia, whom apparenlty is McGrath-esque. He is young in both career and age but he is doing good things for his state. Probably a future test player but with Cox and Merv on the selection panel, new players are coming from 2 states. Another bloke who could have gotten the nod is Laughlin from Queensland but I'm not sure on his current situation.

The middle order batting is where the spots are up for grabs. Hussey needs some scores, Clarke has a dodgey back and North seems to hit a hundred or nothing. North I think was the best of the rest when given the job. There wasn't too much going on at the time. Waston opened, Hodge doesn't get picked and Carseldine is classed as too old. George Bailey is one name that seems to come up though I haven't seen to much of him. He is 27 and the selectors may give a younger bloke a job the next time rather than another Hussey or North. Khawaja could be a smokey if he keeps on piling big scores. Ferguson would have made his debut had he not got injured. Voges and Pomersbach are all over the place while Dave Hussey is ODI specialist. White should get the chance with his great ODI form but he may get pigeon-holed like Hussey.

On the Windies they have impressed me with their spiti in game 2\. The talent is there but the professionalisim is not. There are some very classy young players in that side and they are standing up. Pakistan I am a little worried about. Their batting is super-inconstent and they can't be loose on Aussie soil.

 

[Geo]

Australia by Lunch on day 4….....

I love the Perth test......just somethin about watching the cricket in Prime time at night.......

 

[Marshall_magic]

Recent Shield match:

Smith - 25 overs, 0/156
First Class average - 75

At the moment, he is a batting allrounder, I could understand more if maybe North or even Watson was injured, but at the moment his bowling isnt up to scratch to replace Hauritz. I think Krezja should be there instead.

Mackay has a pretty good record, I see him like a Paul Reiffel, nags a away at a fullish length, chips in with some wickets too, he could be handy at the WACA.

I still cant get over Geeves being there, he goes for runs, averages 34 on a deck that usually favours the seamers, over-rated imo.

I've been saying it for months, Steve Smith as a bowler would be as dumb a selection as Cameron White was. He is a very solid batsman, but has a long way to go with the ball. If he wasn't a blonde leg-spinner (like Cameron White) nobody would say a think about him as the spinner.

 

[Jazza]

Smith and Geeves are lucky to be there in my opinion. Kresja is the number 2 spinner and has been in good from for Tasmania. He should have been called up if the selectors want a spinner. If they want a batsman who can bowl leggies they should have just promoted White back who has been in great form in ODIs and his bounce could actually trouble the Windies guys on the WACA pitch.

Geeves I have never rated. The Aussie quick bowling stocks are getting low with Hilfenhaus, Tait, Lee and Clark and all injured with Siddle now missing out. Dorey got a chance a couple of years ago and never really improved after that. Magoffin could have been an option but probably lacks that punch to be an international bowler, though I think is more deserving. Mackay has impressed when given the chance and is probably the next best quick going around at the moment. He is deffinately more deserving than Mick Lewis who got a chance similar to Dorey. One guy who seems to get bags of wickets and is in good form is young George from South Australia, whom apparenlty is McGrath-esque. He is young in both career and age but he is doing good things for his state. Probably a future test player but with Cox and Merv on the selection panel, new players are coming from 2 states. Another bloke who could have gotten the nod is Laughlin from Queensland but I'm not sure on his current situation.

The middle order batting is where the spots are up for grabs. Hussey needs some scores, Clarke has a dodgey back and North seems to hit a hundred or nothing. North I think was the best of the rest when given the job. There wasn't too much going on at the time. Waston opened, Hodge doesn't get picked and Carseldine is classed as too old. George Bailey is one name that seems to come up though I haven't seen to much of him. He is 27 and the selectors may give a younger bloke a job the next time rather than another Hussey or North. Khawaja could be a smokey if he keeps on piling big scores. Ferguson would have made his debut had he not got injured. Voges and Pomersbach are all over the place while Dave Hussey is ODI specialist. White should get the chance with his great ODI form but he may get pigeon-holed like Hussey.

On the Windies they have impressed me with their spiti in game 2\. The talent is there but the professionalisim is not. There are some very classy young players in that side and they are standing up. Pakistan I am a little worried about. Their batting is super-inconstent and they can't be loose on Aussie soil.

Yeh I agree with pretty much everything there.
The selectors are too conservative for mine, ie they have this fascination of playing a batting allrounder at number 8 (White, MacDonald, and Smith), and they shouldve just backed Phil Hughes to fix up his problems in England.
We've already got 2 allrounders in the team (Watson and Johnson), and they seem to class North as an allrounder too.

We've got some good young quicks coming through the ranks, George looks very good, he's around 2 metres tall, couldve been a smokey for a bouncy WACA, Haberfield looks alright, Starc and Hazlewood look good from NSW, theres Walter and Cutting from QLD. Laughlan has been ordinary at Shield level, even last year, and i think he might be injured at the moment otherwise he would be in the QLD one day side. He's a bit like the David Warner of bowling where he cant make the Shield side.

Out of the batting, Hodge has retired from Shield cricket now, D Hussey hasnt done much this season and yeh Carseldine is to old now. Kawaja is making an impact because he is making 100s, if he keeps going, then he could be in the reckoning come the Ashes. The captaincy seems to of brought the best out of George Bailey, but he still isnt making enough 100s which has been a prob throughout his career, and Mark Cosgrove is bouncing back well, I think he has made 2 100s in the last couple of days now.

Pakistan showed bit in their most recent Test, they batted for 180 odd overs for there 440 odd i think it was. Young Umar Akmal can be very dangerous, and is in form. Yousuf is a world class player but the rest are hit and miss. Asif is the big danger out of their bowlers, Aameer, Gul and Kaneria all have their moments too.

 

[Jazza]

Recent Shield match:

Smith - 25 overs, 0/156
First Class average - 75

At the moment, he is a batting allrounder, I could understand more if maybe North or even Watson was injured, but at the moment his bowling isnt up to scratch to replace Hauritz. I think Krezja should be there instead.

Mackay has a pretty good record, I see him like a Paul Reiffel, nags a away at a fullish length, chips in with some wickets too, he could be handy at the WACA.

I still cant get over Geeves being there, he goes for runs, averages 34 on a deck that usually favours the seamers, over-rated imo.

I've been saying it for months, Steve Smith as a bowler would be as dumb a selection as Cameron White was. He is a very solid batsman, but has a long way to go with the ball. If he wasn't a blonde leg-spinner (like Cameron White) nobody would say a think about him as the spinner.

What makes it even more dumb is bringing him in on a wicket which doesnt favour the spinners at all.
These selectors, I dont know what they think sometimes, Boonie and Merv must make these decisions after a few schooners. Hilditch, well he's a lawyer but he showed how 'quickly' he learns with his batting at international level, getting out to the hook shot time after time after time, and then there's Jamie Cox who spends half his time working for SA.

 

[Peaches]

Smith and Geeves are lucky to be there in my opinion. Kresja is the number 2 spinner and has been in good from for Tasmania. He should have been called up if the selectors want a spinner. If they want a batsman who can bowl leggies they should have just promoted White back who has been in great form in ODIs and his bounce could actually trouble the Windies guys on the WACA pitch.

Geeves I have never rated. The Aussie quick bowling stocks are getting low with Hilfenhaus, Tait, Lee and Clark and all injured with Siddle now missing out. Dorey got a chance a couple of years ago and never really improved after that. Magoffin could have been an option but probably lacks that punch to be an international bowler, though I think is more deserving. Mackay has impressed when given the chance and is probably the next best quick going around at the moment. He is deffinately more deserving than Mick Lewis who got a chance similar to Dorey. One guy who seems to get bags of wickets and is in good form is young George from South Australia, whom apparenlty is McGrath-esque. He is young in both career and age but he is doing good things for his state. Probably a future test player but with Cox and Merv on the selection panel, new players are coming from 2 states. Another bloke who could have gotten the nod is Laughlin from Queensland but I'm not sure on his current situation.

The middle order batting is where the spots are up for grabs. Hussey needs some scores, Clarke has a dodgey back and North seems to hit a hundred or nothing. North I think was the best of the rest when given the job. There wasn't too much going on at the time. Waston opened, Hodge doesn't get picked and Carseldine is classed as too old. George Bailey is one name that seems to come up though I haven't seen to much of him. He is 27 and the selectors may give a younger bloke a job the next time rather than another Hussey or North. Khawaja could be a smokey if he keeps on piling big scores. Ferguson would have made his debut had he not got injured. Voges and Pomersbach are all over the place while Dave Hussey is ODI specialist. White should get the chance with his great ODI form but he may get pigeon-holed like Hussey.

On the Windies they have impressed me with their spiti in game 2\. The talent is there but the professionalisim is not. There are some very classy young players in that side and they are standing up. Pakistan I am a little worried about. Their batting is super-inconstent and they can't be loose on Aussie soil.

Yeh I agree with pretty much everything there.
The selectors are too conservative for mine, ie they have this fascination of playing a batting allrounder at number 8 (White, MacDonald, and Smith), and they shouldve just backed Phil Hughes to fix up his problems in England.
We've already got 2 allrounders in the team (Watson and Johnson), and they seem to class North as an allrounder too.

We've got some good young quicks coming through the ranks, George looks very good, he's around 2 metres tall, couldve been a smokey for a bouncy WACA, Haberfield looks alright, Starc and Hazlewood look good from NSW, theres Walter and Cutting from QLD. Laughlan has been ordinary at Shield level, even last year, and i think he might be injured at the moment otherwise he would be in the QLD one day side. He's a bit like the David Warner of bowling where he cant make the Shield side.

Out of the batting, Hodge has retired from Shield cricket now, D Hussey hasnt done much this season and yeh Carseldine is to old now. Kawaja is making an impact because he is making 100s, if he keeps going, then he could be in the reckoning come the Ashes. The captaincy seems to of brought the best out of George Bailey, but he still isnt making enough 100s which has been a prob throughout his career, and Mark Cosgrove is bouncing back well, I think he has made 2 100s in the last couple of days now.

Pakistan showed bit in their most recent Test, they batted for 180 odd overs for there 440 odd i think it was. Young Umar Akmal can be very dangerous, and is in form. Yousuf is a world class player but the rest are hit and miss. Asif is the big danger out of their bowlers, Aameer, Gul and Kaneria all have their moments too.

McDermott is another young quick who may turn out to be something. Cosgrove has weight problems doesn't he? I think he may end up ebing a permanent state player who never made the next step.
Hughes was so unfairly treated so if Hussey is dropped, Watson may be moved back down to 6 where I think he will be more effective and he may get his big scores. The keeping postion is probably where there is heaps of depth. Paine has looked real good and Manou did a solid job but is a band-aid solution. Hartley I think is much improved while Ronchi showed something until he stuffed himself up. Smith is solid and so is Wade for Victoria.

 

[Jazza]

Smith and Geeves are lucky to be there in my opinion. Kresja is the number 2 spinner and has been in good from for Tasmania. He should have been called up if the selectors want a spinner. If they want a batsman who can bowl leggies they should have just promoted White back who has been in great form in ODIs and his bounce could actually trouble the Windies guys on the WACA pitch.

Geeves I have never rated. The Aussie quick bowling stocks are getting low with Hilfenhaus, Tait, Lee and Clark and all injured with Siddle now missing out. Dorey got a chance a couple of years ago and never really improved after that. Magoffin could have been an option but probably lacks that punch to be an international bowler, though I think is more deserving. Mackay has impressed when given the chance and is probably the next best quick going around at the moment. He is deffinately more deserving than Mick Lewis who got a chance similar to Dorey. One guy who seems to get bags of wickets and is in good form is young George from South Australia, whom apparenlty is McGrath-esque. He is young in both career and age but he is doing good things for his state. Probably a future test player but with Cox and Merv on the selection panel, new players are coming from 2 states. Another bloke who could have gotten the nod is Laughlin from Queensland but I'm not sure on his current situation.

The middle order batting is where the spots are up for grabs. Hussey needs some scores, Clarke has a dodgey back and North seems to hit a hundred or nothing. North I think was the best of the rest when given the job. There wasn't too much going on at the time. Waston opened, Hodge doesn't get picked and Carseldine is classed as too old. George Bailey is one name that seems to come up though I haven't seen to much of him. He is 27 and the selectors may give a younger bloke a job the next time rather than another Hussey or North. Khawaja could be a smokey if he keeps on piling big scores. Ferguson would have made his debut had he not got injured. Voges and Pomersbach are all over the place while Dave Hussey is ODI specialist. White should get the chance with his great ODI form but he may get pigeon-holed like Hussey.

On the Windies they have impressed me with their spiti in game 2\. The talent is there but the professionalisim is not. There are some very classy young players in that side and they are standing up. Pakistan I am a little worried about. Their batting is super-inconstent and they can't be loose on Aussie soil.

Yeh I agree with pretty much everything there.
The selectors are too conservative for mine, ie they have this fascination of playing a batting allrounder at number 8 (White, MacDonald, and Smith), and they shouldve just backed Phil Hughes to fix up his problems in England.
We've already got 2 allrounders in the team (Watson and Johnson), and they seem to class North as an allrounder too.

We've got some good young quicks coming through the ranks, George looks very good, he's around 2 metres tall, couldve been a smokey for a bouncy WACA, Haberfield looks alright, Starc and Hazlewood look good from NSW, theres Walter and Cutting from QLD. Laughlan has been ordinary at Shield level, even last year, and i think he might be injured at the moment otherwise he would be in the QLD one day side. He's a bit like the David Warner of bowling where he cant make the Shield side.

Out of the batting, Hodge has retired from Shield cricket now, D Hussey hasnt done much this season and yeh Carseldine is to old now. Kawaja is making an impact because he is making 100s, if he keeps going, then he could be in the reckoning come the Ashes. The captaincy seems to of brought the best out of George Bailey, but he still isnt making enough 100s which has been a prob throughout his career, and Mark Cosgrove is bouncing back well, I think he has made 2 100s in the last couple of days now.

Pakistan showed bit in their most recent Test, they batted for 180 odd overs for there 440 odd i think it was. Young Umar Akmal can be very dangerous, and is in form. Yousuf is a world class player but the rest are hit and miss. Asif is the big danger out of their bowlers, Aameer, Gul and Kaneria all have their moments too.

McDermott is another young quick who may turn out to be something. Cosgrove has weight problems doesn't he? I think he may end up ebing a permanent state player who never made the next step.
Hughes was so unfairly treated so if Hussey is dropped, Watson may be moved back down to 6 where I think he will be more effective and he may get his big scores. The keeping postion is probably where there is heaps of depth. Paine has looked real good and Manou did a solid job but is a band-aid solution. Hartley I think is much improved while Ronchi showed something until he stuffed himself up. Smith is solid and so is Wade for Victoria.

Yeh McDermott looks good too, a bit of a work in progress but great for a young quick. Cosgrove still looks like he's having weight problems but he's been scoring runs this season too. Yeh there is a lot of depth in the keeping in fact at the moment, ill say that Graham Manou the last out of the lot to play for Aus next.
Hartley has really lifted a level, his keeping has been good to me, and his batting has really lifted, scored a century last week, has scored a couple of 50s at Shield and One day level as well.
Wade is an agressive batsman, and although Ronchi was crap last season, he seems to of bounced back, he's scored a couple of Shield 100s at over a run a ball this yr, and has won the Warriors and ODD as well.

 

[magpie_mania]

Recent Shield match:

Smith - 25 overs, 0/156
First Class average - 75

At the moment, he is a batting allrounder, I could understand more if maybe North or even Watson was injured, but at the moment his bowling isnt up to scratch to replace Hauritz. I think Krezja should be there instead.

Mackay has a pretty good record, I see him like a Paul Reiffel, nags a away at a fullish length, chips in with some wickets too, he could be handy at the WACA.

I still cant get over Geeves being there, he goes for runs, averages 34 on a deck that usually favours the seamers, over-rated imo.

I've been saying it for months, Steve Smith as a bowler would be as dumb a selection as Cameron White was. He is a very solid batsman, but has a long way to go with the ball. If he wasn't a blonde leg-spinner (like Cameron White) nobody would say a think about him
I know at the moment smiths bowling figures are not flash but I think with the right coaching he can develop into a topline leggie he is lucky to be selected so early at 20 but he is the type of player who can exceed at the highest level due to his matchwinner temperament which he has showcased already.

 

[Juro]

I'm just glad that Siddle broke down the day before the test match, rather than one day into the test match!