happy_tiger
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No …....Karma
Cronulla Sharks being investigated over possible salary cap breaches
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No …....Karma
TheDaBoss
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Cronulla Sharks in real danger of becoming the most hated NRL team
The real hate for Cronulla began when Ricky Stuart took control.
Manly fans will hate this but they are in danger of being overtaken by Cronulla as the most despised club in the NRL.
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The Sharks were once regarded as a nuisance value club who routinely fell over come September, laughed at for their inability to win a comp while dining out on a sole Amco Cup victory in 1979.
In the 70s they were competitive and made two grand finals but didn’t win a thing – the ‘Jeans’ Cup aside – at a joint full of good blokes like Dane Sorensen, Greg Pierce, Rick Bourke and the incomparable Steve Rogers.
After nearly going under in the early 1980s, they stayed pretty much legless for the rest of the decade apart from a minor premiership win in 1988.
Nothing to hate here.
Into the 90s they started to make some noise and briefly threatened to break their premiership drought, but didn’t.
They were competitive but harmless in the eyes of opposition fans.
How could you hate The Peach? Or boo ET? Sledge Matty Rogers or Nathan Long? Tear strips off cute little Preston Campbell?
Even coach John Lang seemed the sort of bloke you’d pull up the Esky for at a backyard barbie.
The real hate for Cronulla began when Ricky Stuart took control of a team containing emerging villains Paul Gallen and Greg Bird.
Suddenly, rival fans had a coach and star players to hate in equal doses.
And Cronulla was capable of knocking over any team – your team – and leaving you battered and bruised in the process.
It was almost like the Sharks went out of their way to piss opposition fans off by corralling all the rugby league bad boys in the ensuing years.
Todd Carney, Andrew Fifita, Josh Dugan, Ben Barba, Mick Ennis, Blake Ferguson all rolled through the Shire.
Gal was still there and suddenly the Sharks were by now a consistent title threat – and a team opposing fans feared and, in turn, loathed.
The peptide scandal in 2014 upped the hate meter, the 2016 premiership triumph gave the pitchfork brigade more ammunition and now the boot is being put in as the salary cap scandal bites hard.
So have they over-taken Manly as the team fans love to hate?
“We’ve gone from being everyone’s second favourite team to being up there as the most hated,” lifetime Sharks supporter Adam Newman told us.
“In an ideal world, you want them to win and win ethically but I’m not here to please other teams’ fans
“If it’s a choice between being a loveable loser or a hated winner, I will take winning every time.”
Daily Telegraph sports-editor-at-large, Phil Rothfield, sees the hate for Cronulla first-hand.
It’s his breaking stories on the club’s salary cap plight that has led to much of the recent animosity.
But he stops short of handing the ‘most-hated club’ crown to the Sharks.
“I can understand there is ill-feeling out there about cap issues and Shane Flanagan, but no-one will ever, ever challenge Manly as the most disliked side,” Buzz told Sporting News.
“We still haven’t forgiven them for tearing rivals apart with their big fat chequebook in the Silvertail days.”
So is the case, league fans?
Are Manly still the most despised club in the NRL, or has Cronulla taken top spot?
Or do we need to look outside of Sydney to find the real winner?
The real hate for Cronulla began when Ricky Stuart took control.
Manly fans will hate this but they are in danger of being overtaken by Cronulla as the most despised club in the NRL.
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The Sharks were once regarded as a nuisance value club who routinely fell over come September, laughed at for their inability to win a comp while dining out on a sole Amco Cup victory in 1979.
In the 70s they were competitive and made two grand finals but didn’t win a thing – the ‘Jeans’ Cup aside – at a joint full of good blokes like Dane Sorensen, Greg Pierce, Rick Bourke and the incomparable Steve Rogers.
After nearly going under in the early 1980s, they stayed pretty much legless for the rest of the decade apart from a minor premiership win in 1988.
Nothing to hate here.
Into the 90s they started to make some noise and briefly threatened to break their premiership drought, but didn’t.
They were competitive but harmless in the eyes of opposition fans.
How could you hate The Peach? Or boo ET? Sledge Matty Rogers or Nathan Long? Tear strips off cute little Preston Campbell?
Even coach John Lang seemed the sort of bloke you’d pull up the Esky for at a backyard barbie.
The real hate for Cronulla began when Ricky Stuart took control of a team containing emerging villains Paul Gallen and Greg Bird.
Suddenly, rival fans had a coach and star players to hate in equal doses.
And Cronulla was capable of knocking over any team – your team – and leaving you battered and bruised in the process.
It was almost like the Sharks went out of their way to piss opposition fans off by corralling all the rugby league bad boys in the ensuing years.
Todd Carney, Andrew Fifita, Josh Dugan, Ben Barba, Mick Ennis, Blake Ferguson all rolled through the Shire.
Gal was still there and suddenly the Sharks were by now a consistent title threat – and a team opposing fans feared and, in turn, loathed.
The peptide scandal in 2014 upped the hate meter, the 2016 premiership triumph gave the pitchfork brigade more ammunition and now the boot is being put in as the salary cap scandal bites hard.
So have they over-taken Manly as the team fans love to hate?
“We’ve gone from being everyone’s second favourite team to being up there as the most hated,” lifetime Sharks supporter Adam Newman told us.
“In an ideal world, you want them to win and win ethically but I’m not here to please other teams’ fans
“If it’s a choice between being a loveable loser or a hated winner, I will take winning every time.”
Daily Telegraph sports-editor-at-large, Phil Rothfield, sees the hate for Cronulla first-hand.
It’s his breaking stories on the club’s salary cap plight that has led to much of the recent animosity.
But he stops short of handing the ‘most-hated club’ crown to the Sharks.
“I can understand there is ill-feeling out there about cap issues and Shane Flanagan, but no-one will ever, ever challenge Manly as the most disliked side,” Buzz told Sporting News.
“We still haven’t forgiven them for tearing rivals apart with their big fat chequebook in the Silvertail days.”
So is the case, league fans?
Are Manly still the most despised club in the NRL, or has Cronulla taken top spot?
Or do we need to look outside of Sydney to find the real winner?
happy_tiger
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Hey Buzz ?? Newsflash
Your part of the Sharks problem , my hate would drop at least 20% if you supported someone else
Fade_To_Black
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The team of Pox representing the rubbish tip known as Victoria would win hands down. That club as a whole holds all the appeal of being served a faeces meatloaf for dinner.
At least Manly have the Trbojovic brothers as a redeeming feature…......
851
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Thats funny Happy, and yes Lewis is the exception
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Tarl
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Hear hear!
https://twitter.com/brentread_7/status/1075638752804888576?s=19
GNR4LIFE
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For those keeping track. Old Woodsy is getting ready to play under his 7th coach in 2 years. Not much stability.
cqtiger
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Interesting indeed.
Tomorrow to prove solvency?
Maybe now we are seeing why the huge fines to Cronulla and us. Ploy by NRL to rid Sydney of clubs?
Not so much us but Cronulla must be nervous. I think we might be noise to help hide the big plan. Who knows?
cqtiger
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Haha
Oh well he’s got plenty of acreage to put all these postcodes on his butt. Lol.
The_Patriot
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Was waiting for you to point that out.
At some point we need to ask if its him, hes had more coaches than his mate Farah :laughing:
The_Patriot
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This Craig Airey sure looks like someone the NRL should actually be investigating.
Anyone who drops a cool 1.5mil like that has no doubt helped out a player or two along the way.
Anyone who drops a cool 1.5mil like that has no doubt helped out a player or two along the way.
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First thing that came to mind with the sharks penalty. Don't forget they have a salary cap investigation still going with findings due in January.. If found guilty and another fine on top of this current one.. Who knows if they'll survive it.
Spud_Murphy
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Nup, it's the 'untouchable' Roosters for me. I'd love to see all their shonky back room dealings exposed and their empire come crashing down one day. Right now though it's just getting bigger and bigger without question- irks me no end.
Harvey
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Interesting that they have to disclose their financial position before the NRL hands down their cap penalty.
That way the fine can be enough to send them broke.
That way the fine can be enough to send them broke.
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The NRL have made it clear no club will be bailed out if they are in financial distress.. until this morning that is .The Tigers really need to confront the situation they are in head on …the NRL just make it up as they go and dish out punishment as they wish to who they wish . Confront them and if no satisfaction take to the court system .
# Paul Gallen would quit Cronulla Sharks, NRL if premiership ever stripped
By Tim Elbra
3 hours ago
Paul Gallen says he would walk out on the Sharks and rugby league if Cronulla’s 2016 premiership was ever stripped over salary cap issues.
Cronulla escaped that fate despite the NRL uncovering $700,000 in discrepancies from 2013-18 after the club self-reported a $50,000 discrepancy.
There have been persistent accusations that the Sharks’ historic premiership is tainted, and that the club may well have been over the cap for 2016, despite the NRL insisting the club was compliant.
Gallen told Sports Sunday that he would feel compelled to walk away from Cronulla and the game if he lost a premiership due to poor administration from his club.
“If we got it taken off us, I would throw my ring away and I would quit the club immediately. It just wouldn’t sit well with me if we were to have it taken off us,” Gallen said.
“Here’s what frustrates me about situations like this and situations we’ve gone through before at the club. It’s not my job, it’s not a player’s job, to go to every single player and say, ‘How much money do you earn? Do you get a third-party payment? Where do you get it from? How does it work?’
“It’s not my job, it’s the administration’s job to do it. We’ve been let down by administration once again, but who cops it? The players. Who’s sitting here today answering questions? Me. The player, the captain of the club.
“Who is now going to play with an inferior team for them next two years? The players. While the administrators who made the wrong call just get to move on. That’s what frustrates me about it.”
By Tim Elbra
3 hours ago
Paul Gallen says he would walk out on the Sharks and rugby league if Cronulla’s 2016 premiership was ever stripped over salary cap issues.
Cronulla escaped that fate despite the NRL uncovering $700,000 in discrepancies from 2013-18 after the club self-reported a $50,000 discrepancy.
There have been persistent accusations that the Sharks’ historic premiership is tainted, and that the club may well have been over the cap for 2016, despite the NRL insisting the club was compliant.
Gallen told Sports Sunday that he would feel compelled to walk away from Cronulla and the game if he lost a premiership due to poor administration from his club.
“If we got it taken off us, I would throw my ring away and I would quit the club immediately. It just wouldn’t sit well with me if we were to have it taken off us,” Gallen said.
“Here’s what frustrates me about situations like this and situations we’ve gone through before at the club. It’s not my job, it’s not a player’s job, to go to every single player and say, ‘How much money do you earn? Do you get a third-party payment? Where do you get it from? How does it work?’
“It’s not my job, it’s the administration’s job to do it. We’ve been let down by administration once again, but who cops it? The players. Who’s sitting here today answering questions? Me. The player, the captain of the club.
“Who is now going to play with an inferior team for them next two years? The players. While the administrators who made the wrong call just get to move on. That’s what frustrates me about it.”
