David Nofoaluma #164

[Jedi_Tiger]

@400 to 450K - Give him what he is asking.

Nofo Is a wholehearted Tiger

This is realistic especially compared to the rubbish players that have earnt more at this club and others in recent History.

Its such a no brainer to me

Are you sure he's not asking for more?

No mate Im not,

The Tigers are percieved to be a less desirable destination than any other club in the NRL at present. .

More thann anything else I want us to be a tough club on and off the field {melb like} but this sigmals how we treat the cream of our crop.

Realistically he is good winger. He is our.best and most recognised player now.

This descission is more than 100k

We cant allow nofo to be in another teams jersey.

We can at 600K +

I like Nofo a lot but the club needs to act as a professional business. If another club wants to pay those sort of dollars I wish Nofo the best playing for them.

$400k is a really good salary for a winger. He is a good winger. I like the guy a lot. We should try and keep him. Anything above 400k should be calmly thought through in the context of the teams requirements.

I think they could add a little more for Nofo's services and it doesn't have anything to do with one single solid year IMO. Every club has a 'face' or a 'representative'. For years we have had Benji Marshall, face of the Tigers and to some extent the NRL, and I have no doubt part of the value in his contract was for that reason. Attend more promo's than everyone, be the media 'go-to', get your face on the pamphlets, face on the tickets, big on social media etc etc etc.

I think Nofo is in that same space now. I'm actually happy to pay his $450K (if that's the number) and give you an extra $50K for the extra work and expectation.

From the outside, people then say "He ain't worth $500K!" and I agree, but his is worth $430 (as a player) plus an extra 70K for his additional exposure, services etc etc. All completely legal in salary cap land. Every club does it. It just means he will now be fully involved as a professional footballer AND providing those sometimes intangible marketing benefits. You have to hang aroudn the extra hour at the golf day, you have to share yourself around the supporter group more at fun days, you have to be ready for the media shoots, you have to do all the extras.

TPA should be used for JAC or an Angus Crichton type not a Nofo type player but a representative player

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

@400 to 450K - Give him what he is asking.

Nofo Is a wholehearted Tiger

This is realistic especially compared to the rubbish players that have earnt more at this club and others in recent History.

Its such a no brainer to me

Are you sure he's not asking for more?

No mate Im not,

The Tigers are percieved to be a less desirable destination than any other club in the NRL at present. .

More thann anything else I want us to be a tough club on and off the field {melb like} but this sigmals how we treat the cream of our crop.

Realistically he is good winger. He is our.best and most recognised player now.

This descission is more than 100k

We cant allow nofo to be in another teams jersey.

We can at 600K +

I like Nofo a lot but the club needs to act as a professional business. If another club wants to pay those sort of dollars I wish Nofo the best playing for them.

$400k is a really good salary for a winger. He is a good winger. I like the guy a lot. We should try and keep him. Anything above 400k should be calmly thought through in the context of the teams requirements.

I think they could add a little more for Nofo's services and it doesn't have anything to do with one single solid year IMO. Every club has a 'face' or a 'representative'. For years we have had Benji Marshall, face of the Tigers and to some extent the NRL, and I have no doubt part of the value in his contract was for that reason. Attend more promo's than everyone, be the media 'go-to', get your face on the pamphlets, face on the tickets, big on social media etc etc etc.

I think Nofo is in that same space now. I'm actually happy to pay his $450K (if that's the number) and give you an extra $50K for the extra work and expectation.

From the outside, people then say "He ain't worth $500K!" and I agree, but his is worth $430 (as a player) plus an extra 70K for his additional exposure, services etc etc. All completely legal in salary cap land. Every club does it. It just means he will now be fully involved as a professional footballer AND providing those sometimes intangible marketing benefits. You have to hang aroudn the extra hour at the golf day, you have to share yourself around the supporter group more at fun days, you have to be ready for the media shoots, you have to do all the extras.

I keep coming back to Brett Morris. He's been a very good footballer for a long time. He played SOO and was a Kangaroo. Even in his twilight years he's a great winger. I'd be surprised if he us on similar $ to Nofoaluma. He's the benchmark for me and Nofoaluma is below him.

I agree, but there are other forces at play there. Im sure I heard on somewhere that the Morris' are only on 325K. I generally take these numbers with a grain of salt and whilst I agree on your assessment of Brett Morris, Nofo is worth more to WT than BM is worth to the Roosters.

And Morris is 34, Nofa is 27, at 27 Morris was earning a motza

Morris had also played representative football at 27 too and won a premiership and played in numerous finals games

 

[gallagher]

Personally i'd believe if Noffa left the Tigers, he would be a nobody.

When I say this, I personally believe if he went to another club he wouldn't be as recognised as he is now in the Tigers colours.

I have friends and work colleagues that know i'm a passionate Wests Tigers supporter, and the first thing they say whenever I see them is something relating to Noffa.

either way, max I would give him is 500K... he can go ruin himself somewhere else if he doesn't want to stay.

I agree with this, he'd be just like Woods. A big fish in little pond.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

@400 to 450K - Give him what he is asking.

Nofo Is a wholehearted Tiger

This is realistic especially compared to the rubbish players that have earnt more at this club and others in recent History.

Its such a no brainer to me

Are you sure he's not asking for more?

No mate Im not,

The Tigers are percieved to be a less desirable destination than any other club in the NRL at present. .

More thann anything else I want us to be a tough club on and off the field {melb like} but this sigmals how we treat the cream of our crop.

Realistically he is good winger. He is our.best and most recognised player now.

This descission is more than 100k

We cant allow nofo to be in another teams jersey.

We can at 600K +

I like Nofo a lot but the club needs to act as a professional business. If another club wants to pay those sort of dollars I wish Nofo the best playing for them.

$400k is a really good salary for a winger. He is a good winger. I like the guy a lot. We should try and keep him. Anything above 400k should be calmly thought through in the context of the teams requirements.

I think they could add a little more for Nofo's services and it doesn't have anything to do with one single solid year IMO. Every club has a 'face' or a 'representative'. For years we have had Benji Marshall, face of the Tigers and to some extent the NRL, and I have no doubt part of the value in his contract was for that reason. Attend more promo's than everyone, be the media 'go-to', get your face on the pamphlets, face on the tickets, big on social media etc etc etc.

I think Nofo is in that same space now. I'm actually happy to pay his $450K (if that's the number) and give you an extra $50K for the extra work and expectation.

From the outside, people then say "He ain't worth $500K!" and I agree, but his is worth $430 (as a player) plus an extra 70K for his additional exposure, services etc etc. All completely legal in salary cap land. Every club does it. It just means he will now be fully involved as a professional footballer AND providing those sometimes intangible marketing benefits. You have to hang aroudn the extra hour at the golf day, you have to share yourself around the supporter group more at fun days, you have to be ready for the media shoots, you have to do all the extras.

I keep coming back to Brett Morris. He's been a very good footballer for a long time. He played SOO and was a Kangaroo. Even in his twilight years he's a great winger. I'd be surprised if he us on similar $ to Nofoaluma. He's the benchmark for me and Nofoaluma is below him.

I agree, but there are other forces at play there. Im sure I heard on somewhere that the Morris' are only on 325K. I generally take these numbers with a grain of salt and whilst I agree on your assessment of Brett Morris, Nofo is worth more to WT than BM is worth to the Roosters.

And Morris is 34, Nofa is 27, at 27 Morris was earning a motza

Morris was an elite winger. There is a significant difference.

 

[851]

@400 to 450K - Give him what he is asking.

Nofo Is a wholehearted Tiger

This is realistic especially compared to the rubbish players that have earnt more at this club and others in recent History.

Its such a no brainer to me

Are you sure he's not asking for more?

No mate Im not,

The Tigers are percieved to be a less desirable destination than any other club in the NRL at present. .

More thann anything else I want us to be a tough club on and off the field {melb like} but this sigmals how we treat the cream of our crop.

Realistically he is good winger. He is our.best and most recognised player now.

This descission is more than 100k

We cant allow nofo to be in another teams jersey.

We can at 600K +

I like Nofo a lot but the club needs to act as a professional business. If another club wants to pay those sort of dollars I wish Nofo the best playing for them.

$400k is a really good salary for a winger. He is a good winger. I like the guy a lot. We should try and keep him. Anything above 400k should be calmly thought through in the context of the teams requirements.

I think they could add a little more for Nofo's services and it doesn't have anything to do with one single solid year IMO. Every club has a 'face' or a 'representative'. For years we have had Benji Marshall, face of the Tigers and to some extent the NRL, and I have no doubt part of the value in his contract was for that reason. Attend more promo's than everyone, be the media 'go-to', get your face on the pamphlets, face on the tickets, big on social media etc etc etc.

I think Nofo is in that same space now. I'm actually happy to pay his $450K (if that's the number) and give you an extra $50K for the extra work and expectation.

From the outside, people then say "He ain't worth $500K!" and I agree, but his is worth $430 (as a player) plus an extra 70K for his additional exposure, services etc etc. All completely legal in salary cap land. Every club does it. It just means he will now be fully involved as a professional footballer AND providing those sometimes intangible marketing benefits. You have to hang aroudn the extra hour at the golf day, you have to share yourself around the supporter group more at fun days, you have to be ready for the media shoots, you have to do all the extras.

I keep coming back to Brett Morris. He's been a very good footballer for a long time. He played SOO and was a Kangaroo. Even in his twilight years he's a great winger. I'd be surprised if he us on similar $ to Nofoaluma. He's the benchmark for me and Nofoaluma is below him.

I agree, but there are other forces at play there. Im sure I heard on somewhere that the Morris' are only on 325K. I generally take these numbers with a grain of salt and whilst I agree on your assessment of Brett Morris, Nofo is worth more to WT than BM is worth to the Roosters.

And Morris is 34, Nofa is 27, at 27 Morris was earning a motza

Morris had also played representative football at 27 too and won a premiership and played in numerous finals games

And I would argue Nofa would have too if he played in the teams Morris played in

 

[SeanT]

@400 to 450K - Give him what he is asking.

Nofo Is a wholehearted Tiger

This is realistic especially compared to the rubbish players that have earnt more at this club and others in recent History.

Its such a no brainer to me

Are you sure he's not asking for more?

No mate Im not,

The Tigers are percieved to be a less desirable destination than any other club in the NRL at present. .

More thann anything else I want us to be a tough club on and off the field {melb like} but this sigmals how we treat the cream of our crop.

Realistically he is good winger. He is our.best and most recognised player now.

This descission is more than 100k

We cant allow nofo to be in another teams jersey.

We can at 600K +

I like Nofo a lot but the club needs to act as a professional business. If another club wants to pay those sort of dollars I wish Nofo the best playing for them.

$400k is a really good salary for a winger. He is a good winger. I like the guy a lot. We should try and keep him. Anything above 400k should be calmly thought through in the context of the teams requirements.

I think they could add a little more for Nofo's services and it doesn't have anything to do with one single solid year IMO. Every club has a 'face' or a 'representative'. For years we have had Benji Marshall, face of the Tigers and to some extent the NRL, and I have no doubt part of the value in his contract was for that reason. Attend more promo's than everyone, be the media 'go-to', get your face on the pamphlets, face on the tickets, big on social media etc etc etc.

I think Nofo is in that same space now. I'm actually happy to pay his $450K (if that's the number) and give you an extra $50K for the extra work and expectation.

From the outside, people then say "He ain't worth $500K!" and I agree, but his is worth $430 (as a player) plus an extra 70K for his additional exposure, services etc etc. All completely legal in salary cap land. Every club does it. It just means he will now be fully involved as a professional footballer AND providing those sometimes intangible marketing benefits. You have to hang aroudn the extra hour at the golf day, you have to share yourself around the supporter group more at fun days, you have to be ready for the media shoots, you have to do all the extras.

I keep coming back to Brett Morris. He's been a very good footballer for a long time. He played SOO and was a Kangaroo. Even in his twilight years he's a great winger. I'd be surprised if he us on similar $ to Nofoaluma. He's the benchmark for me and Nofoaluma is below him.

I agree, but there are other forces at play there. Im sure I heard on somewhere that the Morris' are only on 325K. I generally take these numbers with a grain of salt and whilst I agree on your assessment of Brett Morris, Nofo is worth more to WT than BM is worth to the Roosters.

And Morris is 34, Nofa is 27, at 27 Morris was earning a motza

Morris had also played representative football at 27 too and won a premiership and played in numerous finals games

And I would argue Nofa would have too if he played in the teams Morris played in

Possibly. But he still hasnt made origin yet. His defence is still not the best. He is not a elite winger. The teir underneath maybe.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I thought Luciano was our best chance for SOO this year. He did wonderfully well.

 

[twentyforty]

Just reading through a few posts here and getting the impression that Nofa’s true value is in another field?
Sales and marketing. Yep who’d have thought?
Hang on a minute?!
Aren’t we in the business of winning games?
Well not according to our record over the last 10 years.
How do we win more games then?
We could start by astute cap management.

 

[mike]

I am confident that we will retain Noffa especially considering we have the veteran allowance to play with. As for Brooks’ satisfying the allowance, the way I read it he has to have played 8 years of NRL as well as being a junior at the club.

That is not correct

The Veteran Allowance as was given in an earlier post is as follows:

$0.2 million – Veteran and Developed Player Allowance for eligible players who were either developed by the Club prior to becoming NRL players and / or have been a Top 30 player for at least 8 years at the Club or have been a Top 30 player for at least 10 years across the game.

My interpretation is that in order to receive the $200k for a player who has been developed by the club, the player has to have been in your top 30 for 8 years, or 10 yrs across the game. If this is not correct then the alternate is that a club gets $200k for every player developed by the club prior to playing NRL???
How do you read it?

The developed by the club is seperate to the veteran player. If you the section below from what you posted above it says either and or which means they are independent of each other.

"either developed by the Club prior to becoming NRL players and / or have been a Top 30 player for at least 8 years at the Club or have been a Top 30 player for at least 10 years across the game"

The $200k is actually the total the club can claim no matter how many players qualify. So Nofa doesn't have $200k of his contract wiped from the salary cap and we don't lose it if he leaves as it can be claimed on other players.

Sounds about right.

I think I heard earlier in the year that with Lawrence moving on, his allowance would go towards Brooks and Noffa moving forward.

I think this allowance is why Lawrence was given the extra 1 year contract when it looked like he was not going to be offered a contract.
He was essentially exempt from our cap last year.

Whilst I think this allowance is very low, this Noffa situation is perfect for its use.

Essentially if we split it between he and Brooks, we should be able to match a 550-600k max offer and only cost 450-500k of the cap.

I might be wrong, but I remember somewhere that the veteran player allowance essenetially just comes off the general cap, not a specific players contract/price. Means the same in the end I guess, but I don't think you can say it was used to pay Lawrence, and now we can offer Nofo $250K on top of our offer of 450K to keep him. Doesn't work like that.

Happy to be corrected....

Which ever way it works, as a reward to clubs that develop players and to encourage player loyalty, I think the allowance should be more like 5 - 10% of the cap instead of just over the current 2%.

That seems a pretty reasonable approach and doable as well. The NRL really need to address this.

 

[Geo]

@400 to 450K - Give him what he is asking.

Nofo Is a wholehearted Tiger

This is realistic especially compared to the rubbish players that have earnt more at this club and others in recent History.

Its such a no brainer to me

Are you sure he's not asking for more?

No mate Im not,

The Tigers are percieved to be a less desirable destination than any other club in the NRL at present. .

More thann anything else I want us to be a tough club on and off the field {melb like} but this sigmals how we treat the cream of our crop.

Realistically he is good winger. He is our.best and most recognised player now.

This descission is more than 100k

We cant allow nofo to be in another teams jersey.

We can at 600K +

I like Nofo a lot but the club needs to act as a professional business. If another club wants to pay those sort of dollars I wish Nofo the best playing for them.

$400k is a really good salary for a winger. He is a good winger. I like the guy a lot. We should try and keep him. Anything above 400k should be calmly thought through in the context of the teams requirements.

I think they could add a little more for Nofo's services and it doesn't have anything to do with one single solid year IMO. Every club has a 'face' or a 'representative'. For years we have had Benji Marshall, face of the Tigers and to some extent the NRL, and I have no doubt part of the value in his contract was for that reason. Attend more promo's than everyone, be the media 'go-to', get your face on the pamphlets, face on the tickets, big on social media etc etc etc.

I think Nofo is in that same space now. I'm actually happy to pay his $450K (if that's the number) and give you an extra $50K for the extra work and expectation.

From the outside, people then say "He ain't worth $500K!" and I agree, but his is worth $430 (as a player) plus an extra 70K for his additional exposure, services etc etc. All completely legal in salary cap land. Every club does it. It just means he will now be fully involved as a professional footballer AND providing those sometimes intangible marketing benefits. You have to hang aroudn the extra hour at the golf day, you have to share yourself around the supporter group more at fun days, you have to be ready for the media shoots, you have to do all the extras.

I keep coming back to Brett Morris. He's been a very good footballer for a long time. He played SOO and was a Kangaroo. Even in his twilight years he's a great winger. I'd be surprised if he us on similar $ to Nofoaluma. He's the benchmark for me and Nofoaluma is below him.

I agree, but there are other forces at play there. Im sure I heard on somewhere that the Morris' are only on 325K. I generally take these numbers with a grain of salt and whilst I agree on your assessment of Brett Morris, Nofo is worth more to WT than BM is worth to the Roosters.

And Morris is 34, Nofa is 27, at 27 Morris was earning a motza

Morris had also played representative football at 27 too and won a premiership and played in numerous finals games

And I would argue Nofa would have too if he played in the teams Morris played in

Brenko Lee has a premiership ring..who'd of thought..

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Just reading through a few posts here and getting the impression that Nofa’s true value is in another field?
Sales and marketing. Yep who’d have thought?
Hang on a minute?!
Aren’t we in the business of winning games?
Well not according to our record over the last 10 years.
How do we win more games then?
We could start by astute cap management.

You just cannot be paying a winger that kind if money unless he is at the Elite level and is a match winner. He is neither of those and I write this as being pro-Weststigers not anti Nofoaluma.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I am confident that we will retain Noffa especially considering we have the veteran allowance to play with. As for Brooks’ satisfying the allowance, the way I read it he has to have played 8 years of NRL as well as being a junior at the club.

That is not correct

The Veteran Allowance as was given in an earlier post is as follows:

$0.2 million – Veteran and Developed Player Allowance for eligible players who were either developed by the Club prior to becoming NRL players and / or have been a Top 30 player for at least 8 years at the Club or have been a Top 30 player for at least 10 years across the game.

My interpretation is that in order to receive the $200k for a player who has been developed by the club, the player has to have been in your top 30 for 8 years, or 10 yrs across the game. If this is not correct then the alternate is that a club gets $200k for every player developed by the club prior to playing NRL???
How do you read it?

The developed by the club is seperate to the veteran player. If you the section below from what you posted above it says either and or which means they are independent of each other.

"either developed by the Club prior to becoming NRL players and / or have been a Top 30 player for at least 8 years at the Club or have been a Top 30 player for at least 10 years across the game"

The $200k is actually the total the club can claim no matter how many players qualify. So Nofa doesn't have $200k of his contract wiped from the salary cap and we don't lose it if he leaves as it can be claimed on other players.

Sounds about right.

I think I heard earlier in the year that with Lawrence moving on, his allowance would go towards Brooks and Noffa moving forward.

I think this allowance is why Lawrence was given the extra 1 year contract when it looked like he was not going to be offered a contract.
He was essentially exempt from our cap last year.

Whilst I think this allowance is very low, this Noffa situation is perfect for its use.

Essentially if we split it between he and Brooks, we should be able to match a 550-600k max offer and only cost 450-500k of the cap.

I might be wrong, but I remember somewhere that the veteran player allowance essenetially just comes off the general cap, not a specific players contract/price. Means the same in the end I guess, but I don't think you can say it was used to pay Lawrence, and now we can offer Nofo $250K on top of our offer of 450K to keep him. Doesn't work like that.

Happy to be corrected....

Which ever way it works, as a reward to clubs that develop players and to encourage player loyalty, I think the allowance should be more like 5 - 10% of the cap instead of just over the current 2%.

That seems a pretty reasonable approach and doable as well. The NRL really need to address this.

Develop players who are local juniors.

 

[Geo]

Just reading through a few posts here and getting the impression that Nofa’s true value is in another field?
Sales and marketing. Yep who’d have thought?
Hang on a minute?!
Aren’t we in the business of winning games?
Well not according to our record over the last 10 years.
How do we win more games then?
We could start by astute cap management.

You just cannot be paying a winger that kind if money unless he is at the Elite level and is a match winner. He is neither of those and I write this as being pro-Weststigers not anti Nofoaluma.

I would argue that Nofoaluma has won matches for Wests Tigers through perfornance..

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Just reading through a few posts here and getting the impression that Nofa’s true value is in another field?
Sales and marketing. Yep who’d have thought?
Hang on a minute?!
Aren’t we in the business of winning games?
Well not according to our record over the last 10 years.
How do we win more games then?
We could start by astute cap management.

You just cannot be paying a winger that kind if money unless he is at the Elite level and is a match winner. He is neither of those and I write this as being pro-Weststigers not anti Nofoaluma.

I would argue that Nofoaluma has won matches for Wests Tigers through perfornance..

Match winner also means saving tries through strong defence. It also means having the pace to shut down an attack anywhere on the field and being able to score from anywhere on the field. It puts you in the elite match winner category. I'd argue he doesn't fit any of those.

 

[earl]

I can definitely state we shouldn't be paying him 600k. I think anything over 400k needs to be looked at but I'd state that with centres as well. I suppose you have to cap your payments to wingers and centres. So Nofo may get a little more but that means someone else misses out.

He is reliable, he is a junior and he is a really good player.

I'm concerned that we always seem to have to offer our juniors though really beyond awesome money and they still want to test themselves on the market. I'd like at some point for the game to work differently but it doesn't seem too.

Why not develop a culture that we offer players the best possible salary that we can prior to them testing themselves on the market. Post that point we can re-negotiate but there are no guarantees. We could start decreasing our offers after they've tested themselves. We need to do something about players continually wanting the top possible salary they can get. It's not possible to build a successful team with every player doing this.

 

[batboy]

@400 to 450K - Give him what he is asking.

Nofo Is a wholehearted Tiger

This is realistic especially compared to the rubbish players that have earnt more at this club and others in recent History.

Its such a no brainer to me

Are you sure he's not asking for more?

No mate Im not,

The Tigers are percieved to be a less desirable destination than any other club in the NRL at present. .

More thann anything else I want us to be a tough club on and off the field {melb like} but this sigmals how we treat the cream of our crop.

Realistically he is good winger. He is our.best and most recognised player now.

This descission is more than 100k

We cant allow nofo to be in another teams jersey.

We can at 600K +

I like Nofo a lot but the club needs to act as a professional business. If another club wants to pay those sort of dollars I wish Nofo the best playing for them.

$400k is a really good salary for a winger. He is a good winger. I like the guy a lot. We should try and keep him. Anything above 400k should be calmly thought through in the context of the teams requirements.

I think they could add a little more for Nofo's services and it doesn't have anything to do with one single solid year IMO. Every club has a 'face' or a 'representative'. For years we have had Benji Marshall, face of the Tigers and to some extent the NRL, and I have no doubt part of the value in his contract was for that reason. Attend more promo's than everyone, be the media 'go-to', get your face on the pamphlets, face on the tickets, big on social media etc etc etc.

I think Nofo is in that same space now. I'm actually happy to pay his $450K (if that's the number) and give you an extra $50K for the extra work and expectation.

From the outside, people then say "He ain't worth $500K!" and I agree, but his is worth $430 (as a player) plus an extra 70K for his additional exposure, services etc etc. All completely legal in salary cap land. Every club does it. It just means he will now be fully involved as a professional footballer AND providing those sometimes intangible marketing benefits. You have to hang aroudn the extra hour at the golf day, you have to share yourself around the supporter group more at fun days, you have to be ready for the media shoots, you have to do all the extras.

I keep coming back to Brett Morris. He's been a very good footballer for a long time. He played SOO and was a Kangaroo. Even in his twilight years he's a great winger. I'd be surprised if he us on similar $ to Nofoaluma. He's the benchmark for me and Nofoaluma is below him.

I agree, but there are other forces at play there. Im sure I heard on somewhere that the Morris' are only on 325K. I generally take these numbers with a grain of salt and whilst I agree on your assessment of Brett Morris, Nofo is worth more to WT than BM is worth to the Roosters.

You guys are comparing chalk and cheese - players like the Morris boys make the players around them better...
Not look to them when things aren’t going your way.
Nofoaluma wants origin player money - that’s fine.. but he’s certainly not an origin player, and won’t be...
he has far too many deficiencies in his game - and is far too inconsistent week to week.
The fact he’s the current winger of the year is of no consequence, the warriors wingers didn’t play (both better than Nof) - we have a current halfback of the year playing with us also which isn’t amounting to much...
Nof is our mansour, tries hard, good guy, solid winger and good clubman...
hardly the superstar he’s made out to be by the media and faithful

 

[Speed2burn]

I think Nofa is the only player I’d probably pay a little overs for, and by that I mean 100k overs not some ridiculous amount like 250k+

Purely because of face value, local junior and just is so loveable around the club (fans, players, coaching staff etc)

We would survive for sure without him on the playing field but what I think what he brings off field, is worth paying little overs for. Once again, probably the only player in the club I would do this for

I highly doubt digging up an extra 1-150k will burn our salary cap anyhow

 

[Tiger5150]

Just reading through a few posts here and getting the impression that Nofa’s true value is in another field?
Sales and marketing. Yep who’d have thought?
Hang on a minute?!
Aren’t we in the business of winning games?
Well not according to our record over the last 10 years.
How do we win more games then?
We could start by astute cap management.

You just cannot be paying a winger that kind if money unless he is at the Elite level and is a match winner. He is neither of those and I write this as being pro-Weststigers not anti Nofoaluma.

I would argue that Nofoaluma has won matches for Wests Tigers through perfornance..

I would agree with that and thats a great thing. But so what? I would like to think that over a career a high percentage of players put in a performance that wins a game and wingers as finishers are in a position to contribute more directly (than say a prop).

Nofo is a good player and deserves to be paid accordingly, its the value of this payment that is up for argument. He is reportedly on more than $450K in 21. IMO that is top end of what he is worth.

 

[Geo]

Just reading through a few posts here and getting the impression that Nofa’s true value is in another field?
Sales and marketing. Yep who’d have thought?
Hang on a minute?!
Aren’t we in the business of winning games?
Well not according to our record over the last 10 years.
How do we win more games then?
We could start by astute cap management.

You just cannot be paying a winger that kind if money unless he is at the Elite level and is a match winner. He is neither of those and I write this as being pro-Weststigers not anti Nofoaluma.

I would argue that Nofoaluma has won matches for Wests Tigers through perfornance..


I would agree with that and thats a great thing. But so what? I would like to think that over a career a high percentage of players put in a performance that wins a game and wingers as finishers are in a position to contribute more directly (than say a prop).

Nofo is a good player and deserves to be paid accordingly, its the value of this payment that is up for argument. He is reportedly on more than $450K in 21. IMO that is top end of what he is worth.

I don't disagree...neither does the Club..the rest is noise..

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

@400 to 450K - Give him what he is asking.

Nofo Is a wholehearted Tiger

This is realistic especially compared to the rubbish players that have earnt more at this club and others in recent History.

Its such a no brainer to me

Are you sure he's not asking for more?

No mate Im not,

The Tigers are percieved to be a less desirable destination than any other club in the NRL at present. .

More thann anything else I want us to be a tough club on and off the field {melb like} but this sigmals how we treat the cream of our crop.

Realistically he is good winger. He is our.best and most recognised player now.

This descission is more than 100k

We cant allow nofo to be in another teams jersey.

We can at 600K +

I like Nofo a lot but the club needs to act as a professional business. If another club wants to pay those sort of dollars I wish Nofo the best playing for them.

$400k is a really good salary for a winger. He is a good winger. I like the guy a lot. We should try and keep him. Anything above 400k should be calmly thought through in the context of the teams requirements.

I think they could add a little more for Nofo's services and it doesn't have anything to do with one single solid year IMO. Every club has a 'face' or a 'representative'. For years we have had Benji Marshall, face of the Tigers and to some extent the NRL, and I have no doubt part of the value in his contract was for that reason. Attend more promo's than everyone, be the media 'go-to', get your face on the pamphlets, face on the tickets, big on social media etc etc etc.

I think Nofo is in that same space now. I'm actually happy to pay his $450K (if that's the number) and give you an extra $50K for the extra work and expectation.

From the outside, people then say "He ain't worth $500K!" and I agree, but his is worth $430 (as a player) plus an extra 70K for his additional exposure, services etc etc. All completely legal in salary cap land. Every club does it. It just means he will now be fully involved as a professional footballer AND providing those sometimes intangible marketing benefits. You have to hang aroudn the extra hour at the golf day, you have to share yourself around the supporter group more at fun days, you have to be ready for the media shoots, you have to do all the extras.

I keep coming back to Brett Morris. He's been a very good footballer for a long time. He played SOO and was a Kangaroo. Even in his twilight years he's a great winger. I'd be surprised if he us on similar $ to Nofoaluma. He's the benchmark for me and Nofoaluma is below him.

I agree, but there are other forces at play there. Im sure I heard on somewhere that the Morris' are only on 325K. I generally take these numbers with a grain of salt and whilst I agree on your assessment of Brett Morris, Nofo is worth more to WT than BM is worth to the Roosters.

And Morris is 34, Nofa is 27, at 27 Morris was earning a motza

Morris had also played representative football at 27 too and won a premiership and played in numerous finals games

And I would argue Nofa would have too if he played in the teams Morris played in

big stretch there but ok
Brooks may have played for nsw if he had been playing for teams Morris had played in ??