Discipline

Tucker said:
Ive just shown that we were one of the better teams for discipline last year.
This year we are in a tight competition for the worst.
There is no favouritism, we are not being picked on, we are not being made an example of...ITS ON US.
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The inconsistency with forceful tackles was on view for all to see this weekend - the three notables from top three clubs. The inconsistency is a refereeing issue.
 
Telltails said:
The inconsistency with forceful tackles was on view for all to see this weekend - the three notables from top three clubs. The inconsistency is a refereeing issue.
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Our own poor performance contributes to our losses a lot more than referees, but their tendency to apply the sin bin / send off when it’s one of our players has not helped this year at all.
 
BAGNF05 said:
Our own poor performance contributes to our losses a lot more than referees, but their tendency to apply the sin bin / send off when it’s one of our players has not helped this year at all.
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How many weren’t warranted?
I’d say maybe a couple of the sinbins and the sendoff - which could have been a sin bin.
 
Tucker said:
How many weren’t warranted?
I’d say maybe a couple of the sinbins and the sendoff - which could have been a sin bin.
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I can think of 3 or 4 that were match defining. If we’re sitting on 7 or 8 wins we’re probably calling this a fairly respectable first year for Benji. At least in comparison to what I expected. I’m also including occasions where our opponents weren’t treated as we were for the same offense.
 
BAGNF05 said:
I can think of 3 or 4 that were match defining. If we’re sitting on 7 or 8 wins we’re probably calling this a fairly respectable first year for Benji. At least in comparison to what I expected. I’m also including occasions where our opponents weren’t treated as we were for the same offense.
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Which ones were match defining?
 
Frustrated players , Poor coaching , Poor quality roster
this is what is creating our issue of poor discipline.
The current roster is not nrl strength , it is right where we sit , worst in comp and last placed .
The coach has not got into their heads about dropping of when behind , they start to do dumb things but the coach leaves them on the field .
The 2 above points make a frustrated player and it needs to be sorted .
we also need to get the 3 most penalised or burned players aside and drill them or move them on ,
I like Hetherington as an aggressive nasty prop , we be great for us BUT he would cost us games , spend more time off the field , we can’t buy that , i would go Hunt or Sifiti , Reg Campbell Gillard
 
BAGNF05 said:
I can think of 3 or 4 that were match defining. If we’re sitting on 7 or 8 wins we’re probably calling this a fairly respectable first year for Benji. At least in comparison to what I expected. I’m also including occasions where our opponents weren’t treated as we were for the same offense.
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  • Rd2 v Raiders. Stef binned for verbal dissent in 77th minute.
    • Justified? Undecided as not sure what was said.
    • Game defining? No, game was already lost.
  • Rd4 v Parramatta. Galvin binned for hipdrop in 48th minute.
    • Justified? Yes.
    • Game defining? No, we won the game.
  • Rd8 v Broncos. Sam Fainu binned for professional foul in 16th minute.
    • Justified? Yes.
    • Game defining? No, they flogged us in the second half.
  • Rd9 v Bulldogs. David Klemmer binned for verbal dissent in 74th minute. Alex Seyfarth binned for striking in 75th minute.
    • Justified? Yes, game had gotten out of control and the ref had warned our guys many times.
    • Game defning? No, we had to score two tries in the final 4 minutes with Dogs were on top.
  • Rd 10 v Knights. Jahream Bula binned for professional foul in 26th minute.
    • Justified? Yes
    • Game defining? No, we had plenty of time to win that game and Newcastle had their own sinbin late in the game.
  • Rd11 v Dolphins. Brent Naden binned for dangerous tackle in 40th minute. Justin Olam binned for hipdrop in 47th minute.
    • Justified? Yes to both
    • Game defining? Yes but that's our own fault.
  • Rd14 v Dragons. Jayden Sullivan binned for professional foul in 49th minute.
    • Justified? Yes
    • Game defining? No. It was the opening of the floodgates, but that was always going to happen. They scored 24 points after he returned.
  • Rd16 v Raiders. Alex Seyfarth binned for professional foul in 62nd minute.
    • Justified? Yes
    • Game defining? No, we won easily.
  • Rd17 v Roosters. Api Koroisau binned for dangerous tackle in 55th minute. Adam Doueihi binned for hip drop in 63rd minute.
    • Justified? Yes
    • Game defining? No, we were 26 down before the binnings.
  • Rd18 v Storm. Solomona Faataape binned for professional foul in 46th minute.
    • Justified? Yes
    • Game defining? Yes probably, but not the ref's fault.
  • Rd19 v Sharks. Api Koroisau binned for professional foul in 17th minute
    • Justified? No, they got this one wrong
    • Game defining? No, they were far too good irrespective of the binning.
  • Rd20 v Rabbits. Aiden Sezer binned for hip drop in 68th minute
    • Justified? Yes
    • Game defining? Yes, it snuffed out any chance of a comeback, but wasnt the ref's fault.
  • Rd22 v Cowboys. Justin Olam sent off for high tackle in 49th minute.
    • Justified? No, it was an over reaction
    • Game defining? Yes, the game was in the balance at the time.
There are 4 games where I consider the outcome was affected by the sinbinning/send off of players and of those, I think one of them was the fault of the officials.
  • Round 11 could have been won if not for the boneheaded antics of Naden and Olam, whose combined self sabotage costed us. This is not on the refs however, it is on the players.
  • Round 18 was an arm wrestle ar 12-16 when the binning occured. It was a clear foul and it cost us two converted tries which was the final margin. This is not on the refs however, it is on the player.
  • Round 20 we were still in the contest when Sezer went off. It pretty much snuffed out our comeback. This is not on the refs however, it is on the player.
  • Round 22 was a game we were competing in and doing well until the send off which left us a man short for half an hour. It seemed a harsh penalty and we havent seen conclusive evidence since that it was justified. It cost us the game.
 
Tucker said:
  • Rd2 v Raiders. Stef binned for verbal dissent in 77th minute.
    • Justified? Undecided as not sure what was said.
    • Game defining? No, game was already lost.
  • Rd4 v Parramatta. Galvin binned for hipdrop in 48th minute.
    • Justified? Yes.
    • Game defining? No, we won the game.
  • Rd8 v Broncos. Sam Fainu binned for professional foul in 16th minute.
    • Justified? Yes.
    • Game defining? No, they flogged us in the second half.
  • Rd9 v Bulldogs. David Klemmer binned for verbal dissent in 74th minute. Alex Seyfarth binned for striking in 75th minute.
    • Justified? Yes, game had gotten out of control and the ref had warned our guys many times.
    • Game defning? No, we had to score two tries in the final 4 minutes with Dogs were on top.
  • Rd 10 v Knights. Jahream Bula binned for professional foul in 26th minute.
    • Justified? Yes
    • Game defining? No, we had plenty of time to win that game and Newcastle had their own sinbin late in the game.
  • Rd11 v Dolphins. Brent Naden binned for dangerous tackle in 40th minute. Justin Olam binned for hipdrop in 47th minute.
    • Justified? Yes to both
    • Game defining? Yes but that's our own fault.
  • Rd14 v Dragons. Jayden Sullivan binned for professional foul in 49th minute.
    • Justified? Yes
    • Game defining? No. It was the opening of the floodgates, but that was always going to happen. They scored 24 points after he returned.
  • Rd16 v Raiders. Alex Seyfarth binned for professional foul in 62nd minute.
    • Justified? Yes
    • Game defining? No, we won easily.
  • Rd17 v Roosters. Api Koroisau binned for dangerous tackle in 55th minute. Adam Doueihi binned for hip drop in 63rd minute.
    • Justified? Yes
    • Game defining? No, we were 26 down before the binnings.
  • Rd18 v Storm. Solomona Faataape binned for professional foul in 46th minute.
    • Justified? Yes
    • Game defining? Yes probably, but not the ref's fault.
  • Rd19 v Sharks. Api Koroisau binned for professional foul in 17th minute
    • Justified? No, they got this one wrong
    • Game defining? No, they were far too good irrespective of the binning.
  • Rd20 v Rabbits. Aiden Sezer binned for hip drop in 68th minute
    • Justified? Yes
    • Game defining? Yes, it snuffed out any chance of a comeback, but wasnt the ref's fault.
  • Rd22 v Cowboys. Justin Olam sent off for high tackle in 49th minute.
    • Justified? No, it was an over reaction
    • Game defining? Yes, the game was in the balance at the time.
There are 4 games where I consider the outcome was affected by the sinbinning/send off of players and of those, I think one of them was the fault of the officials.
  • Round 11 could have been won if not for the boneheaded antics of Naden and Olam, whose combined self sabotage costed us. This is not on the refs however, it is on the players.
  • Round 18 was an arm wrestle ar 12-16 when the binning occured. It was a clear foul and it cost us two converted tries which was the final margin. This is not on the refs however, it is on the player.
  • Round 20 we were still in the contest when Sezer went off. It pretty much snuffed out our comeback. This is not on the refs however, it is on the player.
  • Round 22 was a game we were competing in and doing well until the send off which left us a man short for half an hour. It seemed a harsh penalty and we havent seen conclusive evidence since that it was justified. It cost us the game.
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Great research & analysis @Tucker yep we could easily be a couple of positions higher on the ladder.
 
Discipline
Scoring points and dropping the ball in the next set and letting the opposition score. (Numerous times)
Inexcusable for a Veteran or Rookie.
Another Wooden spoon,
Would you really feel any better if we finished 2nd Last ?
 
Oldman said:
Discipline
Scoring points and dropping the ball in the next set and letting the opposition score. (Numerous times)
Inexcusable for a Veteran or Rookie.
Another Wooden spoon,
Would you really feel any better if we finished 2nd Last ?
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Finishing 2nd last is not as widely discussed and documented as winning the spoon. If we finished 2nd last we may even get recognised as being on the way up. This could help with recruitment and retention?
 
Finishing 2nd has the same ramifications in history. Not on the field. Atm we are busy rewriting NRL history. At least we will be remembered more than the runner up.
 
twentyforty said:
Finishing 2nd last is not as widely discussed and documented as winning the spoon. If we finished 2nd last we may even get recognised as being on the way up. This could help with recruitment and retention?
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Somehow I can’t see finishing 2nd Last being a deciding factor for a new recruit thinking of joining our team.
It will come down to the magic Dollar 💵
 
Tucker said:
Quite a few have more charges than times put on report. We sit 10th.
  • Raiders = 136%
  • Dogs = 129%
  • Dragons 108%
  • Cowboys =100%
  • Knights = 100%
  • Manly =100%
  • Souths = 100%
  • Roosters = 96%
  • Titans = 93%
  • Tigers = 89%
  • Dolphins = 88%
  • Storm = 88%
  • Cronulla = 86%
  • Penrith = 86%
  • Warriors = 76%
  • Parramatta = 67%
  • Broncos = 63%
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Thanks for the clarification T
Amazed where you get all these stats
Makes me laugh to see ref must be frightened to upset Ricky as the MRC puts heaps more Raiders on the charge sheet than the ref "noticed " LOL
 
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