OFFICIAL Elijah Taylor [Discussion]

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Doesn't add anything. Even if he is playing lock…name one other NRL team who plays a lock who can't run the ball? A lock who doesnt charge over the advantage line?

**The game in 2018 is all about getting over the advantage line** and we are lucky to get 30m out of ET in any game. Unfortunately the game has changed and you can't carry players like this anymore. It puts to much pressure on other players to run the ball.

The game has ALWAYS been about that. You're right though, the effort is usually there but he just isn't big enough or dynamic enough to play in the forwards in todays game.
 
Elijah is a player who like Chris Lawrence will do what ever is needed for the team , if the coach says I need you to play here , they would just do it , he is not a 9 but tries and yes , Yesterday he was not good but so were about 11 others , he will play his normal game when Ivan gets his team sorted ,

Brooks , Reynolds , Maybe Farrah , will Fix up the Halves
Mosses to Fullback helps in another spot

We could still do with another big Body up front with Packer and Matts ( Woods ) or similar

Taylor and Lawrence into the back row , they both play great their , Lawrence been Great
Huth to Lock

Nofo and Kev on the wings ,
Masters and Thompson in the centre , Thompson with his speed
Bench , Twal , Fonua , Marshall , ?
 
ET is a specialist lock can play no other position. He is a tackling machine who makes it easier for the forwards to focus on making metres rather than only defence. He can’t be selected at 9 ever again. He’s either lock or in NSW cup it’s that simple Cleary needs to select a side and stick with it if ether remaining games.
 
Taylor’s had the life sucked out of him by Cleary insisting on using him at hooker. It’s clear that he doesn’t want to play there, and other players in the side don’t want him there either.
 
I think it'd be best if he moved on to NZ or to the UK next season. Can't find a spot for him in my 17\. Not our best lock, not a second rower, and not a hooker.

Both he and Lawrence seem to get concussed every second week. Not good
 
It's simple, he's past it!!!
The game has passed his type of player by, and it happened a few seasons ago.
He wouldn't make the 17 in 95% of clubs in the NRL.
 
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Any word on what happened to McIllwrick?
Went off and didnt return I think

Fonua looked badly injured too

Ankle, they said he would only come back in an emergency. 48-12 scoreline wasn't enough of one I'd imagine :laughing:
 
ET is a super nice bloke but the harsh truth is that he was axed by the Panthers and isn't the world's greatest player.

He's no hooker. He does not pass well enough and isn't quick enough. This is no secret. The fact he's playing hooker ahead of others shows how thin we are in this position.

While he puts in, he's no lock either. In 2018 locks are more like front rowers, think Sam Burgess and Taumalolo. That's probably why Eisenhuth has claimed the 13 jumper.

There's probably a spot for him to do the 'donkey work' to take pressure off others. At last I hope so, he's contracted until the end of 2020.
 
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ET is a super nice bloke but the harsh truth is that he was axed by the Panthers and isn't the world's greatest player.

He's no hooker. He does not pass well enough and isn't quick enough. This is no secret. The fact he's playing hooker ahead of others shows how thin we are in this position.

While he puts in, he's no lock either. In 2018 locks are more like front rowers, think Sam Burgess and Taumalolo. That's probably why Eisenhuth has claimed the 13 jumper.

There's probably a spot for him to do the 'donkey work' to take pressure off others. At last I hope so, he's contracted until the end of 2020.

When he first got here he was being utilised as a ball playing lock which was good because it gave us an extra set of hands in attack and was effective to start with. It slowly got eroded out of his game and now Cleary uses him as a semi permanent DH where his passing game has rapidly become terrible.
 
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Doesn't add anything. Even if he is playing lock…name one other NRL team who plays a lock who can't run the ball? A lock who doesnt charge over the advantage line?

The game in 2018 is all about getting over the advantage line and we are lucky to get 30m out of ET in any game. Unfortunately the game has changed and you can't carry players like this anymore. It puts to much pressure on other players to run the ball.

I feel the same way.
 
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ET is a specialist lock can play no other position. He is a tackling machine who makes it easier for the forwards to focus on making metres rather than only defence. He can’t be selected at 9 ever again. He’s either lock or in NSW cup it’s that simple Cleary needs to select a side and stick with it if ether remaining games.

Agree Tyga - Lock or nowhere.

He is a much better lock than Eisenhuth imo, who is a soft runner in attack (can't be size), what is it?
 
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He was a revaluation when Taylor signed him. Had him playing as a link man. Cleary has turned him into a tackling dummy, and a horrendous dummy half.

Yeah I must admit I prefer the "JT" version of ET over how IC uses him….Taylor offers virtually nothing in attack and little more in defence.
 
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Have we finally realised this guy is useless
I've been saying it for a few seasons now.
He adds ZERO always has.

Next you'll all realise that Matulino is worse and Packer is not far behind, but I wonder how long it takes?
Slow learners around these parts.

Hopefully the lights are starting to come on that cleary is a very average coach…bit like trent barrett, lovely blokes but not up to it

Like so many others on this forum, you're amusement value if nothing else. Thanks.
 
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ET is a specialist lock can play no other position. He is a tackling machine who makes it easier for the forwards to focus on making metres rather than only defence. He can’t be selected at 9 ever again. He’s either lock or in NSW cup it’s that simple Cleary needs to select a side and stick with it if ether remaining games.

Agree Tyga - Lock or nowhere.

He is a much better lock than Eisenhuth imo, who is a soft runner in attack (can't be size), what is it?

Eiso is a big slow human with no explosive power. Works hard but not athletic enough for first grade. I understand Ivan rewards attitude and effort but we are at a stage where the best players need to come through. ET has to be lock. The issue is a bad 9 cripples your team. You can win with a average to good 9 but not with ET against good teams.
 
The problem is we also have Taylor alongside Eisenhuth and Rochow who both also have zero impact and make limited metres. We could probably have ET behind the big Canberra pack to balance them, but playing alongside that backrow is ordinary.
 
Do you think there could be something not right with him in the head? He gives dumb penalties and the other week threw a pass 5 seconds after he was tackled lol. I dunno something doesn't seem right about him to me. Maybe too many concussions or just not too bright. Sorry ET. Loved you in the first season. Not sure what's happening.
 
Master of controlling the tempo in defence in my opinion. Takes the heat for the team as the penalty bad bay and gets through a mountain of work always for a slightly built guy.
 
Sorry you might be right, I am probably being harsh hah. He just pulls a few funny ones sometimes. You can see it coming and you are like ET noooo!!!
 
I actually agree. This is going to make me sound like a dribbler but I think he has CTE. The part of his brain that controls inhibition is cactus. His ability to stop making actions that are clearly and obvious detrimental is gone. Yesterday he body slammed a guy 5 seconds after the ref called held! It wasn't Blake Austin bad but I still facepalmed hard. He does this every game now. The concussions are definitely taking their toll.

That being said he had a blinder yesterday to be honest. I haven't seen his running game be that effective in donkeys. Moving him to the backrow was a smart move.
 
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