OFFICIAL Esan Marsters [Discussion]

@ElleryHanley said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070571) said:
@Don_Kershane said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070569) said:
Pretty simple as I see it--We need speed! The G F was won through speed.Storm, Raiders Souths have it. Esan needed 20 metre run up to get moving-something other teams were awake to.

Yeah, we need players like JAC, Tedesco, Pappenhauzen...............

Hang on................

Rather than insinuating players that we let go.

Maybe you could name someone with speed - that actually wanted to stay.
 
@Madge said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070568) said:
@Russell I think Madge wants Lomax as fullback in the future, i don’t know why just have that feeling.

You could be right Madge - think you could be right eventually as Talau increases his experience.
 
@Russell said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070573) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070571) said:
@Don_Kershane said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070569) said:
Pretty simple as I see it--We need speed! The G F was won through speed.Storm, Raiders Souths have it. Esan needed 20 metre run up to get moving-something other teams were awake to.

Yeah, we need players like JAC, Tedesco, Pappenhauzen...............

Hang on................

Rather than insinuating players that we let go.

Maybe you could name someone with speed - that actually wanted to stay.

Impossible
 
@Russell said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070573) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070571) said:
@Don_Kershane said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070569) said:
Pretty simple as I see it--We need speed! The G F was won through speed.Storm, Raiders Souths have it. Esan needed 20 metre run up to get moving-something other teams were awake to.

Yeah, we need players like JAC, Tedesco, Pappenhauzen...............

Hang on................

Rather than insinuating players that we let go.

Maybe you could name someone with speed - that actually wanted to stay.

Well, JAC wanted to stay....Balmain fan.

Pap also...Balmain family.

Not criticising...just would be nice if we got these right for a change when deciding who to keep.
 
@ElleryHanley said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070576) said:
@Russell said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070573) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070571) said:
@Don_Kershane said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070569) said:
Pretty simple as I see it--We need speed! The G F was won through speed.Storm, Raiders Souths have it. Esan needed 20 metre run up to get moving-something other teams were awake to.

Yeah, we need players like JAC, Tedesco, Pappenhauzen...............

Hang on................

Rather than insinuating players that we let go.

Maybe you could name someone with speed - that actually wanted to stay.

Well, JAC wanted to stay....Balmain fan.

Pap also...Balmain family.

Not criticising...just would be nice if we got these right for a change when deciding who to keep.

Two ways of looking at it EH.

JAC couldn't wait for Pascoe to get back - so signed with Storm.

Pap wanted an opportunity to play first grade now and he Teddy was in his way and Slater would be retiring soonest - so signed with Storm.

They might have been a Balmain fan and Balmain family but they didn't put themselves out.

Don't think Pap is any great loss myself.
 
@Madge said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070568) said:
@Russell I think Madge wants Lomax as fullback in the future, i don’t know why just have that feeling.

I think Madge is making a play for AJ Brimson , I don't know whether it is for Fullback or 5/8.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070546) said:
@shakey4d said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070543) said:
To be honest I think it’s a good move by the club. He didn’t deserve an upgrade. He’s too slow and lazy for centre and too lazy and small for back row. Off to Cowboys where I predict he’ll never be heard from again after 1 season.

Yes it’s extremely rare that players leave the Tigers system to find success elsewhere.


This made me laugh on yet another disappointing day in the life of a Tigers supporter
 
@Russell said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070580) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070576) said:
@Russell said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070573) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070571) said:
@Don_Kershane said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070569) said:
Pretty simple as I see it--We need speed! The G F was won through speed.Storm, Raiders Souths have it. Esan needed 20 metre run up to get moving-something other teams were awake to.

Yeah, we need players like JAC, Tedesco, Pappenhauzen...............

Hang on................

Rather than insinuating players that we let go.

Maybe you could name someone with speed - that actually wanted to stay.

Well, JAC wanted to stay....Balmain fan.

Pap also...Balmain family.

Not criticising...just would be nice if we got these right for a change when deciding who to keep.

Two ways of looking at it EH.

JAC couldn't wait for Pascoe to get back - so signed with Storm.

Pap wanted an opportunity to play first grade now and he Teddy was in his way and Slater would be retiring soonest - so signed with Storm.

They might have been a Balmain fan and Balmain family but they didn't put themselves out.

Don't think Pap is any great loss myself.

Personally, I think he is but time will definitely tell.

Re Pap leaving...IMO it is more that someone in management should have sat down with Tedesco and said "what are you planning mate? You bolted for Canberra...won't commit long term...keep on saying you want to look around / constantly linked with Easts, Minicello is your mentor...just tell us what you plan straight up. We have a Kangaroo junior FB waiting and we don't want to lose him. If you are staying, we will let him go. If you are leaving, we will make him a priority........."

Instead we sat there passively for six months whilst Tedesco basically screwed us and lost them both...
 
@ElleryHanley said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070584) said:
@Russell said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070580) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070576) said:
@Russell said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070573) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070571) said:
@Don_Kershane said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070569) said:
Pretty simple as I see it--We need speed! The G F was won through speed.Storm, Raiders Souths have it. Esan needed 20 metre run up to get moving-something other teams were awake to.

Yeah, we need players like JAC, Tedesco, Pappenhauzen...............

Hang on................

Rather than insinuating players that we let go.

Maybe you could name someone with speed - that actually wanted to stay.

Well, JAC wanted to stay....Balmain fan.

Pap also...Balmain family.

Not criticising...just would be nice if we got these right for a change when deciding who to keep.

Two ways of looking at it EH.

JAC couldn't wait for Pascoe to get back - so signed with Storm.

Pap wanted an opportunity to play first grade now and he Teddy was in his way and Slater would be retiring soonest - so signed with Storm.

They might have been a Balmain fan and Balmain family but they didn't put themselves out.

Don't think Pap is any great loss myself.

Personally, I think he is but time will definitely tell.

Re Pap leaving...IMO it is more that someone in management should have sat down with Tedesco and said "what are you planning mate? You bolted for Canberra...won't commit long term...keep on saying you want to look around / constantly linked with Easts, Minicello is your mentor...just tell us what you plan straight up. We have a Kangaroo junior FB waiting and we don't want to lose him. If you are staying, we will let him go. If you are leaving, we will make him a priority........."

Instead we sat there passively for six months whilst Tedesco basically screwed us and lost them both...

Think Teddy and Moses (Manager) played it all close their chest and told us nothing, kept putting talks off and gave us false hope. Then stabbed us in theback and knocked back a bigger offer from us to play for the Rorters.
 
i think this is great news. things need to change at the tigers otherwise the same crap will happen every year. There simply needs to be whole sale changes.

Hard decisions need to be made so we see consistent success. Masters is a great player but he isn't ground breaking.Time to move forward otherwise 2020 will be 9th/10th again.
 
@Kazoo-Kid said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070530) said:
Mbye has always been just an above average player. Really have no idea how he’s been on $800K+ for the majority of his career.

The thing is he is above average. You just have to pay him that amount and not top dollar.
 
@ElleryHanley said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070576) said:
@Russell said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070573) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070571) said:
@Don_Kershane said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070569) said:
Pretty simple as I see it--We need speed! The G F was won through speed.Storm, Raiders Souths have it. Esan needed 20 metre run up to get moving-something other teams were awake to.

Yeah, we need players like JAC, Tedesco, Pappenhauzen...............

Hang on................

Rather than insinuating players that we let go.

Maybe you could name someone with speed - that actually wanted to stay.

Well, JAC wanted to stay....Balmain fan.

Pap also...Balmain family.

Not criticising...just would be nice if we got these right for a change when deciding who to keep.

I doubt JAC was a Balmain fan. He was 5 years old when they played their last game.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070592) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070576) said:
@Russell said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070573) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070571) said:
@Don_Kershane said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070569) said:
Pretty simple as I see it--We need speed! The G F was won through speed.Storm, Raiders Souths have it. Esan needed 20 metre run up to get moving-something other teams were awake to.

Yeah, we need players like JAC, Tedesco, Pappenhauzen...............

Hang on................

Rather than insinuating players that we let go.

Maybe you could name someone with speed - that actually wanted to stay.

Well, JAC wanted to stay....Balmain fan.

Pap also...Balmain family.

Not criticising...just would be nice if we got these right for a change when deciding who to keep.

I doubt JAC was a Balmain fan. He was 5 years old when they played their last game.

Sorry, meant a Tigers fan....but his family supported Balmain.

Jason Taylor picking Jordan Rankin over JAC is possibly the worst judging of talent in history. There should be an "immortal idiot" award with Taylor as its first "immortal".



**"I've gone for the Tigers nearly my whole life," Addo-Carr said. "It was a great opportunity for me to come here and it was only a one-year deal, but I took it with both hands and have trained hard pre-season and it means the world to me.


"I never thought I would play for the team I've supported my whole life. We've got the team to make the top eight and we've just got to put it together.**
 
@Earl The Bulldogs thought that he was going to be the next JT and they were not going to let another JT slip through their fingers.
 
I'm actually not that worried about Esan leaving. I believe we have to clear the decks in order to rebuild our team the right way. Esan didn't play like someone looking for an upgrade this year, he was lazy and disinterested and not someone I believe has the qualities to make us premiership contenders. He will probably kill it with the cowboys, but not with us so see ya and good luck. C'mon Madge let's do this right and let the build take it's course without impulsive/Cleary like signings.
 
@ElleryHanley said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070598) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070592) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070576) said:
@Russell said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070573) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070571) said:
@Don_Kershane said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070569) said:
Pretty simple as I see it--We need speed! The G F was won through speed.Storm, Raiders Souths have it. Esan needed 20 metre run up to get moving-something other teams were awake to.

Yeah, we need players like JAC, Tedesco, Pappenhauzen...............

Hang on................

Rather than insinuating players that we let go.

Maybe you could name someone with speed - that actually wanted to stay.

Well, JAC wanted to stay....Balmain fan.

Pap also...Balmain family.

Not criticising...just would be nice if we got these right for a change when deciding who to keep.

I doubt JAC was a Balmain fan. He was 5 years old when they played their last game.

Sorry, a meant a Tigers fan....but his family supported Balmain.



**"I've gone for the Tigers nearly my whole life," Addo-Carr said. "It was a great opportunity for me to come here and it was only a one-year deal, but I took it with both hands and have trained hard pre-season and it means the world to me.


"I never thought I would play for the team I've supported my whole life. We've got the team to make the top eight and we've just got to put it together.**

And JAC proved to everyone that "talk is cheap"
 
@Russell said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070601) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070598) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070592) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070576) said:
@Russell said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070573) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070571) said:
@Don_Kershane said in [Official: Esan leaving](/post/1070569) said:
Pretty simple as I see it--We need speed! The G F was won through speed.Storm, Raiders Souths have it. Esan needed 20 metre run up to get moving-something other teams were awake to.

Yeah, we need players like JAC, Tedesco, Pappenhauzen...............

Hang on................

Rather than insinuating players that we let go.

Maybe you could name someone with speed - that actually wanted to stay.

Well, JAC wanted to stay....Balmain fan.

Pap also...Balmain family.

Not criticising...just would be nice if we got these right for a change when deciding who to keep.

I doubt JAC was a Balmain fan. He was 5 years old when they played their last game.

Sorry, a meant a Tigers fan....but his family supported Balmain.



**"I've gone for the Tigers nearly my whole life," Addo-Carr said. "It was a great opportunity for me to come here and it was only a one-year deal, but I took it with both hands and have trained hard pre-season and it means the world to me.


"I never thought I would play for the team I've supported my whole life. We've got the team to make the top eight and we've just got to put it together.**

And JAC proved to everyone that "talk is cheap"

Well, not really. He was told by Jason Taylor he was a fringe player and offered 140 000 to stay.
vs
Bellamy really wanted him.

Can you blame him???
 
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