OFFICIAL Esan Marsters [Discussion]

[GNR4LIFE]

Pretty simple as I see it--We need speed! The G F was won through speed.Storm, Raiders Souths have it. Esan needed 20 metre run up to get moving-something other teams were awake to.

Yeah, we need players like JAC, Tedesco, Pappenhauzen...............

Hang on................

Rather than insinuating players that we let go.

Maybe you could name someone with speed - that actually wanted to stay.

Well, JAC wanted to stay....Balmain fan.

Pap also...Balmain family.

Not criticising...just would be nice if we got these right for a change when deciding who to keep.

I doubt JAC was a Balmain fan. He was 5 years old when they played their last game.

Sorry, a meant a Tigers fan....but his family supported Balmain.



**"I've gone for the Tigers nearly my whole life," Addo-Carr said. "It was a great opportunity for me to come here and it was only a one-year deal, but I took it with both hands and have trained hard pre-season and it means the world to me.


"I never thought I would play for the team I've supported my whole life. We've got the team to make the top eight and we've just got to put it together.**

And JAC proved to everyone that "talk is cheap"

Well, not really. He was told by Jason Taylor he was a fringe player and offered 140 000 to stay.
vs
Bellamy really wanted him.

Can you blame him???

What about the Sharks, who didn’t even debut him? Why do they always get a free pass with JAC. And his manager was told by Pascoe not to make any deals till he got back from a family holiday.

 

[happy_tiger]

We must obviously have a different plan for our 9 then

Momi and Mbye in the centres

 

[Madge]

@bathursttiger Not sure to be honest, article didn’t say much about that.

 

[ElleryHanley]

Pretty simple as I see it--We need speed! The G F was won through speed.Storm, Raiders Souths have it. Esan needed 20 metre run up to get moving-something other teams were awake to.

Yeah, we need players like JAC, Tedesco, Pappenhauzen...............

Hang on................

Rather than insinuating players that we let go.

Maybe you could name someone with speed - that actually wanted to stay.

Well, JAC wanted to stay....Balmain fan.

Pap also...Balmain family.

Not criticising...just would be nice if we got these right for a change when deciding who to keep.

I doubt JAC was a Balmain fan. He was 5 years old when they played their last game.

Sorry, a meant a Tigers fan....but his family supported Balmain.



**"I've gone for the Tigers nearly my whole life," Addo-Carr said. "It was a great opportunity for me to come here and it was only a one-year deal, but I took it with both hands and have trained hard pre-season and it means the world to me.


"I never thought I would play for the team I've supported my whole life. We've got the team to make the top eight and we've just got to put it together.**

And JAC proved to everyone that "talk is cheap"

Well, not really. He was told by Jason Taylor he was a fringe player and offered 140 000 to stay.
vs
Bellamy really wanted him.

Can you blame him???

What about the Sharks, who didn’t even debut him? Why do they always get a free pass with JAC. And his manager was told by Pascoe not to make any deals till he got back from a family holiday.

The Sharks had just won a comp with two wingers playing leading roles, carrying the ball back like freight trains as their first and second hit ups.

They get a pass.

VS

We decided Joran Rankin was a better winger...................................................................................................................................

 

[ElleryHanley]

We must obviously have a different plan for our 9 then

Momi and Mbye in the centres

If that does not strike fear into the hearts of opposition backlines, then I don't know what will........... 😉

Jokes aside, you would presume we have signings coming soon.

Well, you would presume so anyway....surely?

 

[Nelson]

Pretty simple as I see it--We need speed! The G F was won through speed.Storm, Raiders Souths have it. Esan needed 20 metre run up to get moving-something other teams were awake to.

Yeah, we need players like JAC, Tedesco, Pappenhauzen...............

Hang on................

Rather than insinuating players that we let go.

Maybe you could name someone with speed - that actually wanted to stay.

Well, JAC wanted to stay....Balmain fan.

Pap also...Balmain family.

Not criticising...just would be nice if we got these right for a change when deciding who to keep.

I doubt JAC was a Balmain fan. He was 5 years old when they played their last game.

Sorry, a meant a Tigers fan....but his family supported Balmain.



**"I've gone for the Tigers nearly my whole life," Addo-Carr said. "It was a great opportunity for me to come here and it was only a one-year deal, but I took it with both hands and have trained hard pre-season and it means the world to me.


"I never thought I would play for the team I've supported my whole life. We've got the team to make the top eight and we've just got to put it together.**

And JAC proved to everyone that "talk is cheap"

Well, not really. He was told by Jason Taylor he was a fringe player and offered 140 000 to stay.
vs
Bellamy really wanted him.

Can you blame him???

What about the Sharks, who didn’t even debut him? Why do they always get a free pass with JAC. And his manager was told by Pascoe not to make any deals till he got back from a family holiday.

The Sharks had just won a comp with two wingers playing leading roles, carrying the ball back like freight trains as their first and second hit ups.

They get a pass.

VS

We decided Joran Rankin was a better winger...................................................................................................................................

Take it to the lament thread!

 

[851]

@Russell I think Madge wants Lomax as fullback in the future, i don’t know why just have that feeling.

I think Madge is making a play for AJ Brimson , I don't know whether it is for Fullback or 5/8.

I would hope 5/8th

 

[LARDS]

To be honest I think it’s a good move by the club. He didn’t deserve an upgrade. He’s too slow and lazy for centre and too lazy and small for back row. Off to Cowboys where I predict he’ll never be heard from again after 1 season.

Yes it’s extremely rare that players leave the Tigers system to find success elsewhere.

My sarcasm detector just went off the Richter scale after this comment

 

[hsvjones]

This is excellent for us and it just feels like Coach is turning the team over and keeping the ones he believes are the right fit.. He did a incredible job this year with what he took over from and if he can get the right players i can only see this heading in the right direction.. He is not the NZ coach for no reason and that helps attract the right people as well.. :+1:

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Pretty simple as I see it--We need speed! The G F was won through speed.Storm, Raiders Souths have it. Esan needed 20 metre run up to get moving-something other teams were awake to.

Yeah, we need players like JAC, Tedesco, Pappenhauzen...............

Hang on................

Rather than insinuating players that we let go.

Maybe you could name someone with speed - that actually wanted to stay.

Well, JAC wanted to stay....Balmain fan.

Pap also...Balmain family.

Not criticising...just would be nice if we got these right for a change when deciding who to keep.

I doubt JAC was a Balmain fan. He was 5 years old when they played their last game.

Sorry, a meant a Tigers fan....but his family supported Balmain.



**"I've gone for the Tigers nearly my whole life," Addo-Carr said. "It was a great opportunity for me to come here and it was only a one-year deal, but I took it with both hands and have trained hard pre-season and it means the world to me.


"I never thought I would play for the team I've supported my whole life. We've got the team to make the top eight and we've just got to put it together.**

And JAC proved to everyone that "talk is cheap"

Well, not really. He was told by Jason Taylor he was a fringe player and offered 140 000 to stay.
vs
Bellamy really wanted him.

Can you blame him???

What about the Sharks, who didn’t even debut him? Why do they always get a free pass with JAC. And his manager was told by Pascoe not to make any deals till he got back from a family holiday.

The Sharks had just won a comp with two wingers playing leading roles, carrying the ball back like freight trains as their first and second hit ups.

They get a pass.

VS

We decided Joran Rankin was a better winger...................................................................................................................................

You make it sound like the club thought Rankin was the better long term option. To which you’d be wrong.

 

[Tcat]

@hsvjones Agree 100%. Madge inherited this rubbish and knew it when he signed up. Let Madge create a team that respects him as a coach, wants to train hard (reflecting in results) and also respects the club they play for. I'm looking forward to 2021 and beyond.

 

[TheDaBoss]

This is really really tough and could go either way.

My initial thoughts are that he would get back to his best - but tbh even his best wasn't anything near the top centres in the game.

I can see Talau progressing to be just as good if not better than what Esan has delivered so far, and for less.

One thing is for sure, I hope this has nothing to do with fitting in the signings and re-signings we have made so far and that something bigger is to come.

2020 premiership....

 

[TheDaBoss]

Pretty simple as I see it--We need speed! The G F was won through speed.Storm, Raiders Souths have it. Esan needed 20 metre run up to get moving-something other teams were awake to.

Yeah, we need players like JAC, Tedesco, Pappenhauzen...............

Hang on................

Rather than insinuating players that we let go.

Maybe you could name someone with speed - that actually wanted to stay.

Well, JAC wanted to stay....Balmain fan.

Pap also...Balmain family.

Not criticising...just would be nice if we got these right for a change when deciding who to keep.

I doubt JAC was a Balmain fan. He was 5 years old when they played their last game.

Sorry, a meant a Tigers fan....but his family supported Balmain.



**"I've gone for the Tigers nearly my whole life," Addo-Carr said. "It was a great opportunity for me to come here and it was only a one-year deal, but I took it with both hands and have trained hard pre-season and it means the world to me.


"I never thought I would play for the team I've supported my whole life. We've got the team to make the top eight and we've just got to put it together.**

And JAC proved to everyone that "talk is cheap"

Well, not really. He was told by Jason Taylor he was a fringe player and offered 140 000 to stay.
vs
Bellamy really wanted him.

Can you blame him???

What about the Sharks, who didn’t even debut him? Why do they always get a free pass with JAC. And his manager was told by Pascoe not to make any deals till he got back from a family holiday.

The Sharks had just won a comp with two wingers playing leading roles, carrying the ball back like freight trains as their first and second hit ups.

They get a pass.

VS

We decided Joran Rankin was a better winger...................................................................................................................................

Take it to the lament thread!

Yea please, this thread is about esan leaving leave anyother dribble for lament thread

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Far out... A good player lost who copped a lot of stick from fans... Local junior as well. Well, if we don't sign a competent or even better replacement I won't be letting this go any time soon.

Wasn't he an Easts junior?

 

[trentrunciman]

I'm arguably this clubs harshest critic. I was laughing at how inept we were at times this year. But letting Ersan go is definitely positive. Letting Lawrence go in my opinion is positive too. I honestly feel moving corey thompson on is positive too. If the cllub is serious about consistent winning then we need arguably the best @ the 1,6,7,9 positions. Even if you're building post 2020 then we need to allow the kids to come through next year instead of sticking with players like thompson etc

 

[Russell]

I'm arguably this clubs harshest critic. I was laughing at how inept we were at times this year. But letting Ersan go is definitely positive. Letting Lawrence go in my opinion is positive too. I honestly feel moving corey thompson on is positive too. If the cllub is serious about consistent winning then we need arguably the best @ the 1,6,7,9 positions. Even if you're building post 2020 then we need to allow the kids to come through next year instead of sticking with players like thompson etc

Agree with your first sentence - disagree with just about all the rest. Everyone's entitled to their opinion though.

 

[Telltails]

Pretty simple as I see it--We need speed! The G F was won through speed.Storm, Raiders Souths have it. Esan needed 20 metre run up to get moving-something other teams were awake to.

Yeah, we need players like JAC, Tedesco, Pappenhauzen...............

Hang on................

Rather than insinuating players that we let go.

Maybe you could name someone with speed - that actually wanted to stay.

Well, JAC wanted to stay....Balmain fan.

Pap also...Balmain family.

Not criticising...just would be nice if we got these right for a change when deciding who to keep.

Two ways of looking at it EH.

JAC couldn't wait for Pascoe to get back - so signed with Storm.

Pap wanted an opportunity to play first grade now and he Teddy was in his way and Slater would be retiring soonest - so signed with Storm.

They might have been a Balmain fan and Balmain family but they didn't put themselves out.

Don't think Pap is any great loss myself.

Personally, I think he is but time will definitely tell.

Re Pap leaving...IMO it is more that someone in management should have sat down with Tedesco and said "what are you planning mate? You bolted for Canberra...won't commit long term...keep on saying you want to look around / constantly linked with Easts, Minicello is your mentor...just tell us what you plan straight up. We have a Kangaroo junior FB waiting and we don't want to lose him. If you are staying, we will let him go. If you are leaving, we will make him a priority........."

Instead we sat there passively for six months whilst Tedesco basically screwed us and lost them both...

Best crop of juniors we had in sometime and we employed a coach who had no idea how to coach what was in front of him. We were never any hope of retaining any of our talented junoirs at that time - as if Tedesco was ever going to sign with JT as coach.

 

[trentrunciman]

I'm arguably this clubs harshest critic. I was laughing at how inept we were at times this year. But letting Ersan go is definitely positive. Letting Lawrence go in my opinion is positive too. I honestly feel moving corey thompson on is positive too. If the cllub is serious about consistent winning then we need arguably the best @ the 1,6,7,9 positions. Even if you're building post 2020 then we need to allow the kids to come through next year instead of sticking with players like thompson etc

Agree with your first sentence - disagree with just about all the rest. Everyone's entitled to their opinion though.

tiges need to shed players. Lawrence; Thompson etc are good players but to me if we are serious about being consistently in the top 4 of the competition then players like lawrence et al aren't at that level. again just my opinion. Seems lilke madge is moving in that direction. But hey im just glad the NBA and NFL are back.

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

Far out... A good player lost who copped a lot of stick from fans... Local junior as well. Well, if we don't sign a competent or even better replacement I won't be letting this go any time soon.

Wasn't he an Easts junior?

Born and raised in NZ. Played SG Ball for Roosters as a 5/8. Then came to us for U20s and played mostly 2nd row IIRC.

 

[TYGA]

So our Centre stocks for next year are

Mbye
Momo
Talau
Jennings
Chee-kam as a backup

Hopefully Momo can continue to improve as with Talau.

I hope they look at another forward with Esan's money

Jennings is not centre stock.

He is a nothing.

Looks like the cafe a while ago and the chat recently with Zac Lomax could be the centre pairing with Momo. Luv it!!!!!

STGI would be mad to release Lomax. He’s a star in the making. Huge talent that would be a Wests Tigers move. I applaud the decision to let Martsers go he hasn’t earnt a massive upgrade he was signed on good money last time by Cleary who is t afraid of paying overs. Cowboys would have paid top dollar.