Forwards aggression and the Captain

[tigermac88]

Players aren't as emotional as supporters.

And how did you come to that conclusion???

Because they got on with the game. Almost come back and won too.

Well I disagree with you on that and maybe if they had as much emotion as supporters do they would've actually went on with the job and won the game.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Players aren't as emotional as supporters.

And how did you come to that conclusion???

Because they got on with the game. Almost come back and won too.

Well I disagree with you on that and maybe if they had as much emotion as supporters do they would've actually went on with the job and won the game.

If Moses had some luck with the goal post we would have. That's how far away the win was. Nothing to do with emotion.

 

[tigermac88]

And how did you come to that conclusion???

Because they got on with the game. Almost come back and won too.

Well I disagree with you on that and maybe if they had as much emotion as supporters do they would've actually went on with the job and won the game.

If Moses had some luck with the goal post we would have. That's how far away the win was. Nothing to do with emotion.

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[GNR4LIFE]

Because they got on with the game. Almost come back and won too.

Well I disagree with you on that and maybe if they had as much emotion as supporters do they would've actually went on with the job and won the game.

If Moses had some luck with the goal post we would have. That's how far away the win was. Nothing to do with emotion.

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I'd be more annoyed at the 3 missed conversions. We land one of them, we win.

 

[tigermac88]

Well I disagree with you on that and maybe if they had as much emotion as supporters do they would've actually went on with the job and won the game.

If Moses had some luck with the goal post we would have. That's how far away the win was. Nothing to do with emotion.

:brick: :brick:

I'd be more annoyed at the 3 missed conversions. We land one of them, we win.

I've seen that a few times on the forum about missed goals and that is ridiculous to blame goal kicking when the Titans were just as bad with theirs.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

If Moses had some luck with the goal post we would have. That's how far away the win was. Nothing to do with emotion.

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I'd be more annoyed at the 3 missed conversions. We land one of them, we win.

I've seen that a few times on the forum about missed goals and that is ridiculous to blame goal kicking when the Titans were just as bad with theirs.

Fair call. But it is ironic that after months of complaining about the goal kicking and how it will cost us a game, the fact we missed 3 in the last 15 minutes is overlooked so we can focus on our guys not being aggressive enough.

 

[tigermac88]

:brick: :brick:

I'd be more annoyed at the 3 missed conversions. We land one of them, we win.

I've seen that a few times on the forum about missed goals and that is ridiculous to blame goal kicking when the Titans were just as bad with theirs.

Fair call. But it is ironic that after months of complaining about the goal kicking and how it will cost us a game, the fact we missed 3 in the last 15 minutes is overlooked so we can focus on our guys not being aggressive enough.

No, I actually agree with you that our goal kicking is a problem and has been all season. I'm just disappointed that none of our guys seemed to be too upset about Teddys treatment to take it upon themselves to line James up with a shot.. One of the jobs of a front rower is to protect his playmakers or little guys from the big bullies on the field.

 

[Paris_Cobbs]

It's a measure of how much the game has changed.

Someone mentioned Blocker Roach, well from the other side of the 'marriage', think of Noel Kelly or Dallas Donnelly (ask Terry Randall!) Those guys would not have let something like that happen to their star fullback without some response.

Consequently, James will be suspended for one week, while Teddy is out for the season. Doesn't sound much like justice to me.

 

[Tiger_Pete]

I'm OK with Woodsy not doing anything on the field, but why come out and defend him in the press?

 

[jirskyr]

People make out it's just that easy, to work over an opposition forward.

If it was, they'd be dominating him physically anyway, from the get-go. James is no mouse, and if you start singling out players for special roughhouse attention, you are moving away from your gameplan.

It's all fair and good for square ups, legal or not, in park footy.

I remember watching a game earlier in the year and ever time Sam Burgess touched the ball Dylan Napa was there to smash him. All legal, all tough and took him out of the game. If Sue or someone else lined him up and took it upon themselves to get into him everytime he touched the ball this wouldn't have moved too far from the game plan. Problem is we don't have an enforcer. Watching Napa, Evans and Hargreaves today made me wich we had one of them. Evans being a Leichhardt Junior hurts even more. I know we can't keep them all but he is a good one.
Mongrel is something we have missed for years and I can't see any change in the future.

We had an "enforcer" and he kept / keeps getting suspended.

Sure Napa had a terrific game belting Burgess many many weeks ago, and he still has a great hit in him. Does Napa dominate his opposite props week in and week out?

Because last week our sometimes-maligned and "non-enforcer" props totally outplayed the defending premiers front row.

I guarantee you Titans WANT us to rush up and try to take out James, they want 4-man in tackles as someone else suggested, creating holes in our defence.

There are footballers who can go out there and regularly put on great hits, guys like Gillemeister, Plum, Napa, Edwards… but it usually comes at the expense of another element of their game.

 

[MightyMaggy]

I cannot believe the reaction of some of you forumers! Surely, the work of the Match Review Committee in only charging James with a careless grade 2, when he bent down to reach Tedesco's jaw should have rated the tackle as deliberate, should be the focus of your anger.
I suggest you look at the history for Western Suburbs Magpies Bob Cooper and HIS EIGHTEEN MONTH suspension, when the Rugby League was being cleaned up. If John Grant and his 150 under-worked employees don't start fixing this game by protecting the players, there will be even fewer young players coming on than there are at present.

 

[cunno]

It's a measure of how much the game has changed.

Someone mentioned Blocker Roach, well from the other side of the 'marriage', think of Noel Kelly or Dallas Donnelly (ask Terry Randall!) Those guys would not have let something like that happen to their star fullback without some response.

Consequently, James will be suspended for one week, while Teddy is out for the season. Doesn't sound much like justice to me.

Agree, big Dallas wouldn't have stood for it, having said that times have changed and the breach has to be filled by officialdom for if they don't then it will be back to the good old days as they are often called.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

They have taken out our best player, they have been big hits on Moses, Taupau did a cowardly one. If our playmakers get intimidated and taken off to hospital and out for ages what game do we have then - totally useless for months. We have paid big money for these guys as well. We did have a capt that did belt someone and was sent off - it was worth it.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

It's a measure of how much the game has changed.

Someone mentioned Blocker Roach, well from the other side of the 'marriage', think of Noel Kelly or Dallas Donnelly (ask Terry Randall!) Those guys would not have let something like that happen to their star fullback without some response.

Consequently, James will be suspended for one week, while Teddy is out for the season. Doesn't sound much like justice to me.

In those days about 90% of the stinks happened in the first 10 minutes. Dallas and co would have been sucking in the big ones with 15 minutes to go and would have barely been able to lift their arms to get a get square.

Playing first grade is tough. Whilst there is interchange, the speed of the game requires enormous fitness. I would argue the fitness should be channeled into maintaining the defensive line and ball security.

Imagine the outcry if a couple of pigs had sprinted out of the line to put a hit on James and left gaping holes for Hayne and co to run through…..

 

[stevetiger]

FYI woodsy and Ryan James are really good mates so I understand why he didn't lay the boot in

It's not about just walking up to Ryan James and putting one on his chin .
It's about rushing up in defence , sending four blokes at Ryan James and flattening him in a tackle …(making him feel some pain ).

Woods is supposed to be our leader , there was 20 mins left in the game after Teddy got belted and the boys didn't do squat !

Exactly

We scored 2 trys. A better result then losing our heads, and getting one of our guys in trouble.

I think you win on the scoreboard as well. I don't think Woods did anything wrong.

 

[larrycorowa]

Gee I'd hate to play a team sport with some of you guys who think that our forwards shouldn't have bashed James every time he touched the ball in that last 20 minutes.

Another stupid post. Your completion rate is >90%.

 

[tigermac88]

Gee I'd hate to play a team sport with some of you guys who think that our forwards shouldn't have bashed James every time he touched the ball in that last 20 minutes.

Another stupid post. Your completion rate is >90%.

That's not a bad completion rate, that will win me most games…. Keep em coming champ, I'm allowed to have an opinion... Your barbs mean nothing to me. Anyway you are a good judge with the rubbish you post.

 

[stevied]

It's not about just walking up to Ryan James and putting one on his chin .
It's about rushing up in defence , sending four blokes at Ryan James and flattening him in a tackle …(making him feel some pain ).

Woods is supposed to be our leader , there was 20 mins left in the game after Teddy got belted and the boys didn't do squat !

Exactly

We scored 2 trys. A better result then losing our heads, and getting one of our guys in trouble.

I think you guys are misunderstanding what some of us are saying, we are not saying throw a punch or a cheap dog shot but what was needed was for some of our forwards to put a shot on James… You do realise you can inflict pain on a football field legally? Even if one of the forwards got up in James' face after he hit Teddy and gave him a gob full would've been more than they did.. To add to that after James got penalised for his hit on JLJ a few minutes later (which I actually thought there wasn't anything in that penalty) the only player to even give James a gob full was Moses. Just disappointing to see this

I agree with you GNR. I agree that some are missing the point and I agree that something should have been done in a LEGAL way. While not advocating an old fashioned and illegal 'get square' that was bound to incite a brawl and suspensions, I do think that a few of the Tigers forwards should have hit James especially hard in the rib cage, put him on his back then stared him down. Something to tell him that we were not happy and that there was retribution for a deliberate, dog act like his. By the way, excuse my ignorance, but surely the thug has been cited…...?

 

[larrycorowa]

Just keep posting son…..it's the best way I have of proving my point

 

[tigermac88]

Just keep posting son…..it's the best way I have of proving my point

You keep on hiding behind your keyboard champ, you must feel really big behind it.