Gag order required for Hagipantelis and Pascoe
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Don’t make it personal – or there’ll be severe consequences.
Angry Wests Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis has hit out at personal vitriol directed as his board, front office, coaching staff and players, claiming individual condemnation was “offensive, unnecessary, unhelpful, inappropriate and unfair”.
And the Brydens Lawyers principal has threatened legal action against any personal slurs that “cross the line”.
Hagipantelis is already receiving legal advice over insinuations made about him in a rival media outlet.
Hagipantelis claims to accept criticism about the club and its performances but has come out swinging against personal attacks being fired off at his players and staff.
“Play the ball, not the man,” Hagipantelis said. “If you don’t like the decisions we make then go to town. But when it’s personal, it’s a very different story.
“We are open to criticism because the results aren’t there, they speak for themselves and this is a results-driven industry. There is a legitimate case to criticise the club for not fulfilling the expectations of fans and members, that’s fair enough.
“If there are decisions taken by the club that they do not agree with then we are open to be criticised. I have no qualms with that.
“But what I do not like is the personal criticism. When the criticism is directed at the individual personally, then that is unnecessary and unhelpful. Its inherently unfair and inappropriate to level personal criticism at an individual.”
“It stings. People like myself and the board who fulfil these roles … we don’t get paid. We do it out of the passion, commitment and love for this club. To question people’s motives and agendas, I find that offensive.
“It’s difficult to understand why there is such criticism of the front office. I know the front office has fully committed itself to support the football department and the team.”
Hagipantelis confirmed he would consider action against any personal attack.
“If someone crossed the line, and posted any defamatory then that would receive an appropriate response,” he said.
“There is a line that should not be crossed and if any comments were made that we deemed to be defamatory of myself or any person in the club, then that would receive all due consideration from a legal perspective.”
The club continues to support embattled coach Michael Maguire with Hagipantelis adamant his club would continue to be “united” in the face of heavy criticism and scrutiny.
Despite having a bolstered playing roster this season, Wests Tigers are in crisis having won just one of the club’s first seven rounds this season. They sit equal last with Brisbane and Canterbury.
A 40-6 loss to Manly last Sunday has heaped additional pressure and disapproval onto the Concord club, its players, board and management.
“The club is not immune from the frustration and disappointment that our fans and members experiencing. We share it with them. As a club, we accept responsibility, and, as a club, we are united, absolutely united, despite all the external noise, distractions and narratives being pushed,” he said.
“We are all on the same page and are working hard because it’s not the beginning of the season we were hoping for. But we have absolute faith and confidence in our structures, in our resources and facilities and our staff.
“The club itself is more financially stable and better run than it has ever been, off the paddock. There’s no doubt about that. And our football department is as well-resourced as it has ever been, with assistant coaches, dietitians and sports scientists.
“There is no reason for any panic or knee-jerk reaction. The response has to be harder work and that’s what we’re committed to working.”
Wests Tigers play St George Illawarra on Sunday in Wollongong. Defeat would add another layer of excruciating pressure on every member of the club.
“All the ingredients are there, it’s just a matter of it coming together over a sustained period,” Hagipantelis said.
“We are working to identify why we are sitting on one win and why there hasn’t been consistent performances over the 80 minutes.
Don’t make it personal – or there’ll be severe consequences.
Angry Wests Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis has hit out at personal vitriol directed as his board, front office, coaching staff and players, claiming individual condemnation was “offensive, unnecessary, unhelpful, inappropriate and unfair”.
And the Brydens Lawyers principal has threatened legal action against any personal slurs that “cross the line”.
Hagipantelis is already receiving legal advice over insinuations made about him in a rival media outlet.
Hagipantelis claims to accept criticism about the club and its performances but has come out swinging against personal attacks being fired off at his players and staff.
“Play the ball, not the man,” Hagipantelis said. “If you don’t like the decisions we make then go to town. But when it’s personal, it’s a very different story.
“We are open to criticism because the results aren’t there, they speak for themselves and this is a results-driven industry. There is a legitimate case to criticise the club for not fulfilling the expectations of fans and members, that’s fair enough.
“If there are decisions taken by the club that they do not agree with then we are open to be criticised. I have no qualms with that.
“But what I do not like is the personal criticism. When the criticism is directed at the individual personally, then that is unnecessary and unhelpful. Its inherently unfair and inappropriate to level personal criticism at an individual.”
“It stings. People like myself and the board who fulfil these roles … we don’t get paid. We do it out of the passion, commitment and love for this club. To question people’s motives and agendas, I find that offensive.
“It’s difficult to understand why there is such criticism of the front office. I know the front office has fully committed itself to support the football department and the team.”
Hagipantelis confirmed he would consider action against any personal attack.
“If someone crossed the line, and posted any defamatory then that would receive an appropriate response,” he said.
“There is a line that should not be crossed and if any comments were made that we deemed to be defamatory of myself or any person in the club, then that would receive all due consideration from a legal perspective.”
The club continues to support embattled coach Michael Maguire with Hagipantelis adamant his club would continue to be “united” in the face of heavy criticism and scrutiny.
Despite having a bolstered playing roster this season, Wests Tigers are in crisis having won just one of the club’s first seven rounds this season. They sit equal last with Brisbane and Canterbury.
A 40-6 loss to Manly last Sunday has heaped additional pressure and disapproval onto the Concord club, its players, board and management.
“The club is not immune from the frustration and disappointment that our fans and members experiencing. We share it with them. As a club, we accept responsibility, and, as a club, we are united, absolutely united, despite all the external noise, distractions and narratives being pushed,” he said.
“We are all on the same page and are working hard because it’s not the beginning of the season we were hoping for. But we have absolute faith and confidence in our structures, in our resources and facilities and our staff.
“The club itself is more financially stable and better run than it has ever been, off the paddock. There’s no doubt about that. And our football department is as well-resourced as it has ever been, with assistant coaches, dietitians and sports scientists.
“There is no reason for any panic or knee-jerk reaction. The response has to be harder work and that’s what we’re committed to working.”
Wests Tigers play St George Illawarra on Sunday in Wollongong. Defeat would add another layer of excruciating pressure on every member of the club.
“All the ingredients are there, it’s just a matter of it coming together over a sustained period,” Hagipantelis said.
“We are working to identify why we are sitting on one win and why there hasn’t been consistent performances over the 80 minutes.
Harvey
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@jirskyr said in [Gag order required for Hagipantelis and Pascoe](/post/1348989) said:
Another sad indictment. What other club does sponsorship and name on the jersey equate with being the chairman?
tony soprano
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@geo said in [Gag order required for Hagipantelis and Pascoe](/post/1349094) said:
Lee comment s to voss were directly aimed at Webster. Got to remember he is the face of the leading law firm in nsw sure their stake holders were not happy with that sort of press about lee.
tony soprano
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@darlingst said in [Gag order required for Hagipantelis and Pascoe](/post/1349257) said:
It’s a warning shot to smh Webster who made comments like he is in speed dial to the press. If they do it again I’d expect actual legal action
tony soprano
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Interesting one home ground is firm on the agenda wonder where our parra stadium will be didn’t confirm or deny cambo
avocadoontoast
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@tony-soprano said in [Gag order required for Hagipantelis and Pascoe](/post/1349266) said:
What would he sue him for, telling the truth?
Jedi_Tiger
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Not the SMH ! Independent Always
I thought It was only Murdoch that was bad for tigers
I thought It was only Murdoch that was bad for tigers
Jedi_Tiger
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@tony-soprano said in [Gag order required for Hagipantelis and Pascoe](/post/1349268) said:
it will be interesting could take a long time to build. I think if it was going to be campbletown he may have been more positive about that. Maybe a shared Liverpool stadium with Dogs will be likely
mike
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@tony-soprano said in [Gag order required for Hagipantelis and Pascoe](/post/1349268) said:
Liverpool
jirskyr
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@harvey said in [Gag order required for Hagipantelis and Pascoe](/post/1349260) said:
Roosters. Where do you think Uncle Nick came from? He's not the main sponsor now but he was at the start.
St George chairman Andrew Gordon is from the WIN family, who are 50% owners of St George Illawarra and a premier corporate partner (same tier as St George Leagues Club).
hank37w
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@mike said in [Gag order required for Hagipantelis and Pascoe](/post/1349014) said:
I've got no problems with him saying something, the problem is what he says, how he says it, and how he comes across.
Strikes me as someone that believes he is the greatest legal mind in the country and comes across with legal points and threats that never really amount to anything.
mike
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@hank37w said in [Gag order required for Hagipantelis and Pascoe](/post/1349310) said:
Having worked with Lawyers that’s exactly their MO, all bluff & bluster, until it gets into court and then it’s real.
Harvey
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@tony-soprano said in [Gag order required for Hagipantelis and Pascoe](/post/1349266) said:
So his response to the suggestion that he is on speed dial for the press because he likes to talk was to contact a media organisation and give way too much information.
Harvey
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@jirskyr said in [Gag order required for Hagipantelis and Pascoe](/post/1349308) said:
Own (like Russell) and being a sponsor are 2 completely different levels. Uncle Nick was a sponsor in the 70's when the sport was probably lucky to be turning over a few hundred thousand a year and players had jobs.
That is probably equivalent to where out club is now in terms of professionalism
tony soprano
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@harvey said in [Gag order required for Hagipantelis and Pascoe](/post/1349339) said:
He’s on vossey show weekly which also promotes b brydens
tony soprano
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Webby returns fire
https://twitter.com/1170sen/status/1387217753065594882?s=21
https://twitter.com/1170sen/status/1387217753065594882?s=21
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MAGUIRE ARTICLE SPARKS WAR OF WORDS BETWEEN TIGERS CHAIRMAN AND NRL JOURNALIST
BY SEN 2 HOURS AGO
A war of words has erupted between Wests Tigers Chairman Lee Hagipantelis and Sydney Morning Herald journalist Andrew Webster.
Webster published an article in the Sydney Morning Herald on Tuesday titled, Why the Wests Tigers need to stop blaming coach Michael Maguire, where he focused on the supposed shortcomings of the club’s board including Hagipantelis.
The article criticised the club’s decision making from the top and gave possible reasons as to why the Tigers find themselves with a 1-6 record after seven rounds.
In response to the piece, Hagipantelis joined Andrew Voss on SEN 1170 Breakfast where he described the article as “outrageous”.
“I can direct your attention and your listeners attention to an article in the (Sydney Morning) Herald yesterday,” Hagipantelis said.
“It was outrageous the personal vitriol directed to me and to the CEO.
“As I said, if we as a club make a decision and you disagree with that decision, then by all means let us know, send us an email or post a tweet or whatever you want to do.
“But do not attack an individual or their motives, or drive any particular agendas as such.”
Following Hagipantelis’ words, Webster joined Matt White on SEN 1170 Mornings to defend his article.
“Talk about a glass-jaw, ‘Outrageous personal vitriol’, all I did to the story was turn the spotlight onto the people that run the club,” Webster explained.
“When you’re 1-6 and haven’t made the finals since 2011, Lee – what do you expect?
“Always at the Wests Tigers they blame the coach.
“I just legitimately asked questions about the Chairman and Chief Executive, who do not help by going public with so much stuff and I also questioned the club at the top end about how many leaks seem to come out.
“Particularly in the last couple of weeks about the so called ‘get-out clause’, that if they want to sack Michael Maguire they can do so for not much money.
“In reality it’s just a normal termination clause which includes a one-year payout, which is standard in most coach contracts.
“The fact that it’s been leaked as if the club’s been really smart in extending Michael Maguire, just shows you how leaky that club is.
“All I was doing … was asking some valid questions about people who run the joint, who are the ones that are responsible for signing the coach and signing off on the contracts that are signed.
“If you think you’re doing a good job, just have a look at where you are on the ladder.”
BY SEN 2 HOURS AGO
A war of words has erupted between Wests Tigers Chairman Lee Hagipantelis and Sydney Morning Herald journalist Andrew Webster.
Webster published an article in the Sydney Morning Herald on Tuesday titled, Why the Wests Tigers need to stop blaming coach Michael Maguire, where he focused on the supposed shortcomings of the club’s board including Hagipantelis.
The article criticised the club’s decision making from the top and gave possible reasons as to why the Tigers find themselves with a 1-6 record after seven rounds.
In response to the piece, Hagipantelis joined Andrew Voss on SEN 1170 Breakfast where he described the article as “outrageous”.
“I can direct your attention and your listeners attention to an article in the (Sydney Morning) Herald yesterday,” Hagipantelis said.
“It was outrageous the personal vitriol directed to me and to the CEO.
“As I said, if we as a club make a decision and you disagree with that decision, then by all means let us know, send us an email or post a tweet or whatever you want to do.
“But do not attack an individual or their motives, or drive any particular agendas as such.”
Following Hagipantelis’ words, Webster joined Matt White on SEN 1170 Mornings to defend his article.
“Talk about a glass-jaw, ‘Outrageous personal vitriol’, all I did to the story was turn the spotlight onto the people that run the club,” Webster explained.
“When you’re 1-6 and haven’t made the finals since 2011, Lee – what do you expect?
“Always at the Wests Tigers they blame the coach.
“I just legitimately asked questions about the Chairman and Chief Executive, who do not help by going public with so much stuff and I also questioned the club at the top end about how many leaks seem to come out.
“Particularly in the last couple of weeks about the so called ‘get-out clause’, that if they want to sack Michael Maguire they can do so for not much money.
“In reality it’s just a normal termination clause which includes a one-year payout, which is standard in most coach contracts.
“The fact that it’s been leaked as if the club’s been really smart in extending Michael Maguire, just shows you how leaky that club is.
“All I was doing … was asking some valid questions about people who run the joint, who are the ones that are responsible for signing the coach and signing off on the contracts that are signed.
“If you think you’re doing a good job, just have a look at where you are on the ladder.”
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