Give Cleary Our Support.

[Harvey]

Liddle was chased by Melbourne last time. They would have allowed him to develop.

I think he will be ready next year. Those suggesting that he can only play 30 minutes, feel free to sen me your resume of the work you did after having 2 shoulders reconstructed, with a busted sternum.

He was tossed in because our alternatives (Godinet, McIllwrick, ET, Reynolds) were either injured or terrible.

We do need a competent backup, but the position should be his next year

 

[happy_tiger]

Liddle was chased by Melbourne last time. They would have allowed him to develop.

I think he will be ready next year. Those suggesting that he can only play 30 minutes, feel free to sen me your resume of the work you did after having 2 shoulders reconstructed, with a busted sternum.

He was tossed in because our alternatives (Godinet, McIllwrick, ET, Reynolds) were either injured or terrible.

We do need a competent backup, but the position should be his next year

That would surprise me , Brandon Smith and Liddle were the standout hookers from that NYC group . from what I have seen I'd say Brandon Smith is further advanced than Liddle is at this stage

 

[Harvey]

Think Smith came from the cowboys

 

[Harvey]

I have faith he will ultimately get us there, even if this year has been a little underwhelming. His record at Penrith and the Warriors speaks for itself.

Can someone explain this record?

A win percentage under 48%
2 finals appearances in 6 years at the warriors with the nucleus of the nz test side
1 or 2 finals appearances in 4 years at Penrith
1 grand final in 10 years of coaching
The ability to turn over a roster quickly

I am trying to work out what people mean when they talk about the record. It is similar (but not quite as good) as Brian Smith’s

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Liddle will be our 9\. Reynolds will play 14 if Cleary and Brooks play together. I think Liddle is a future rep hooker. Ivan will manage him and this situation.

I think you'll find Brooks will get moved on if Cleary arrives.
It will be Reynolds 6 and Cleary 7.
Brooks is the cheapest out.

I disagree because Brooks is a long term prospect - Reynolds is not

Doesnt always pan out like that.
I think money wins out at the end of the day with a financially cash strapped club.
Brooks is on less and easier to move on.
Cleary is our future and would proper playing beside Reynolds. Brooks and Cleary combo i don't know about that one.

You say Brooks is a long term prospect, when does that become reality?
He has had ample time to take control but doesn't have that killer instinct.
He will never play origin.

Respectfully disagree with your 2nd paragraph. I think, and so do many good judges, that he has more than proved himself this year.

In regards to Reynolds- I reckon he has maybe 1 good year left. That why Brooks and Cleary are the future in my opinion.

Also - let’s stand for something as a club. Let’s make Brooks a one club player

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I have faith he will ultimately get us there, even if this year has been a little underwhelming. His record at Penrith and the Warriors speaks for itself.

Can someone explain this record?

A win percentage under 48%
2 finals appearances in 6 years at the warriors with the nucleus of the nz test side
1 or 2 finals appearances in 4 years at Penrith
1 grand final in 10 years of coaching
The ability to turn over a roster quickly

I am trying to work out what people mean when they talk about the record. It is similar (but not quite as good) as Brian Smith’s

Well he is the only coach whose ever gotten anything out of the Warriors. Every coach since has failed. Also took the Panthers to a pre lim final despite a mammoth injury toll.

Now, I better stop before I give all of those who believe I have an agenda against him nothing to use against me :laughing:

 

[Tweed_Tiger]

If we go into 2019 with Liddle as our only first grade quality hooker we have learnt zero from this year

 

[Russell]

I have faith he will ultimately get us there, even if this year has been a little underwhelming. His record at Penrith and the Warriors speaks for itself.

Can someone explain this record?

A win percentage under 48%
2 finals appearances in 6 years at the warriors with the nucleus of the nz test side
1 or 2 finals appearances in 4 years at Penrith
1 grand final in 10 years of coaching
The ability to turn over a roster quickly

I am trying to work out what people mean when they talk about the record. It is similar (but not quite as good) as Brian Smith’s

Remembering he was building both those clubs from scratch - takes time but he ended with pretty good results.

You wouldn't even mention Brian Smiths name in the same computer - let alone thread.

 

[TrueTiger]

Why do people suggest Liddle will leave?
Do you honestly think that he is not involved in his own development. Its as if fans think players dont talk to the coaches if they are in ISP and they are left there with no clue what is going on.
All clubs have young players waithing for a crack at the top grade when the time is right.
If the club is invested in Liddle then he will be constantly in discussion about his development..
If the club dont think he has a future in the top grade then he will know about that as well.

How long do you think he should rot in ISP?

He has done enough to be the 9 next year.

He would not learn anything from the game our 9 played last week.

Rot in ISP?

Are you serious?

Im a Liddle fan but It was clear as day he wasn't up to more then 30 minutes of first grade a game this year.

What is happening now is really good for his development.

He has no divine right to be there based on what he produced earlier this year.

I honestly think Ivan has his hand on the pulse in regard to Liddle and other youthful players,thats why he goes and watches ISP games with Hodgo giving him feedback..

just my opinion but thats what I would be doing…

 

[TCL]

I'm a fan and have liked a lot of things about our team since he has taken over, but I want finals footy!

 

[Eddie]

I have faith he will ultimately get us there, even if this year has been a little underwhelming. His record at Penrith and the Warriors speaks for itself.

Can someone explain this record?

A win percentage under 48%
2 finals appearances in 6 years at the warriors with the nucleus of the nz test side
1 or 2 finals appearances in 4 years at Penrith
1 grand final in 10 years of coaching
The ability to turn over a roster quickly

I am trying to work out what people mean when they talk about the record. It is similar (but not quite as good) as Brian Smith’s

He was clearly the best candidate at the time.

His record is not anything special I agree with that. However he elevated two development clubs that were struggling before he came in. Were a similar club to Warriors and Panthers in that we have lacked success and try and develop from within mainly.

I could be wrong but I reckon one of those years at the Warriors they started on -4 and would have made the playoffs if they started on zero.

Warriors no finals in the 6 years since he left.

Penrith have done well but has not reached a Prelim since he left.

Were a club that would kill for a Prelim or a GF.

Cleary will really be judged on 2019 and 2020\. If were still battling away then well then he hasn't lived up to the billing.

 

[TIGERPOWER]

I have faith he will ultimately get us there, even if this year has been a little underwhelming. His record at Penrith and the Warriors speaks for itself.

Can someone explain this record?

A win percentage under 48%
2 finals appearances in 6 years at the warriors with the nucleus of the nz test side
1 or 2 finals appearances in 4 years at Penrith
1 grand final in 10 years of coaching
The ability to turn over a roster quickly

I am trying to work out what people mean when they talk about the record. It is similar (but not quite as good) as Brian Smith’s

Well he is the only coach whose ever gotten anything out of the Warriors. Every coach since has failed. Also took the Panthers to a pre lim final despite a mammoth injury toll.

Now, I better stop before I give all of those who believe I have an agenda against him nothing to use against me :laughing:

Someone check your temperature lol

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

NRL PLAYERS POLL rates Bellamy No 1 coach CLEARY No 2 and Bennet No3 Ivan must be doing something right thats a wonderful result puts Ivan up there when negotiating with players.

 

[clifferdSH]

I have faith he will ultimately get us there, even if this year has been a little underwhelming. His record at Penrith and the Warriors speaks for itself.

Can someone explain this record?

A win percentage under 48%
2 finals appearances in 6 years at the warriors with the nucleus of the nz test side
1 or 2 finals appearances in 4 years at Penrith
1 grand final in 10 years of coaching
The ability to turn over a roster quickly

I am trying to work out what people mean when they talk about the record. It is similar (but not quite as good) as Brian Smith’s

He was clearly the best candidate at the time.

His record is not anything special I agree with that. However he elevated two development clubs that were struggling before he came in. Were a similar club to Warriors and Panthers in that we have lacked success and try and develop from within mainly.

I could be wrong but I reckon one of those years at the Warriors they started on -4 and would have made the playoffs if they started on zero.

Warriors no finals in the 6 years since he left.

Penrith have done well but has not reached a Prelim since he left.

Were a club that would kill for a Prelim or a GF.

Cleary will really be judged on 2019 and 2020\. If were still battling away then well then he hasn't lived up to the billing.

This. Cleary has only coached sides that have started off as absolute rabbles (us a prime example last year)

I have faith we'll play finals footy next year if not this year if we win all our remaining

 

[851]

A nice little clip
https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/08/02/cleary-wants-benji-and-robbie-back/

 

[Telltails]

NRL PLAYERS POLL rates Bellamy No 1 coach CLEARY No 2 and Bennet No3 Ivan must be doing something right thats a wonderful result puts Ivan up there when negotiating with players.

Speaks volumes.

 

[The_Patriot]

Nice respect shown for Cleary

 

[gallagher]

NRL PLAYERS POLL rates Bellamy No 1 coach CLEARY No 2 and Bennet No3 Ivan must be doing something right thats a wonderful result puts Ivan up there when negotiating with players.

Paul Green at 4 and Kearney at 5 with 4% of votes.
Trent Robinson nowhere to be seen.

 

[Cairnstigers]

NRL PLAYERS POLL rates Bellamy No 1 coach CLEARY No 2 and Bennet No3 Ivan must be doing something right thats a wonderful result puts Ivan up there when negotiating with players.

As a player why wouldn't you like what you see in Ivan Cleary
He is a family man
He obviously loves his football
He was a great player in his day and is a very likable character
He seems very calm in his approach
Ivan deserves success
As do the tigers and us supporters

 

[Cosimo_Zaretti]

Liddle will be our 9\. Reynolds will play 14 if Cleary and Brooks play together. I think Liddle is a future rep hooker. Ivan will manage him and this situation.

I think you'll find Brooks will get moved on if Cleary arrives.
It will be Reynolds 6 and Cleary 7.
Brooks is the cheapest out.

Brooks is also cheap to retain though. He's only on $500k and by the end of 2019 should be eligible for veteran player allowance, covering $200k of that. Cleary/Brooks is a value for money pairing if they don't cancel each other out.

Reynolds is stupidly expensive and never plays. If he's not playing regular first grade by I reckon June 30 2019, I think the club will want to medically retire him. I hope he comes good, he's s great number 6.

Reynolds isn't much of a hooker either. He gives it a red hot go, but his service looks awkward and you can see the wheels turning in his brain as he figures out an unfamiliar task. There are blokes half the price who play better at 9, and we should buy one if Liddle's not working out.

I also don't see Reynolds' shoulders lasting long if he's gotta make 50 tackles a game on front rowers. Hooker's a very tough position defensively, and no place for your most injury prone player.