High shot on Fui Fui

[innsaneink]

Haha
If Moi Moi is upright, kasiano gets him round the chest torso somewhere and we aint talking about this
4+ weeks…...the tackle didnt go awry, the ball carrier did!!
Seriously, youve no clue.

So tell me why Manu hasnt been charged with kneeing Thaiday in the jaw :unamused:

Youre a uni student arent you :unamused:


 

[innsaneink]

…or maybe Sam should be charged with head butting Manu's knee???

 

[Centaur]

Haha
If Moi Moi is upright, kasiano gets him round the chest torso somewhere and we aint talking about this
4+ weeks…...the tackle didnt go awry, the ball carrier did!!
Seriously, youve no clue.

So tell me why Manu hasnt been charged with kneeing Thaiday in the jaw :unamused:

Youre a uni student arent you :unamused:


I don't know why you are ignoring the fact that Kasiano used a swinging arm. It is careless. If Fui ran into Kasiano's stationary arm, there wouldn't be a suspension.

Your Manu argument is narrow minded. Manu is leaping for the ball, same as any other player would - there is nothing careless in his actions in my opinion. Let's not forget the obvious fact that Manu isn't even making a tackle.

Kasiano has a choice to swing his arm, Manu doesn't have a choice to raise his knee if he is leaping for the ball. The comparison is fundamentally flawed.

No I am not a Uni student - but I have been the Uni - does that make a difference?

*Ends constructive post without need to try and insult or belittle others*

 

[Flippedy]

Haha
**If Moi Moi is upright, kasiano gets him round the chest torso somewhere and we aint talking about this
4+ weeks…...the tackle didnt go awry, the ball carrier did!!**
Seriously, youve no clue.

So tell me why Manu hasnt been charged with kneeing Thaiday in the jaw :unamused:

Youre a uni student arent you :unamused:


Spot on! Geez I don't know, the lines between a so called 'careless' tackle and a really good tackle is ridiculously blurred these days.

 

[innsaneink]

I didnt ignore it…I addressed it in my first reply

You however ignored plenty

*Finalises reply without a need for self praise*

 

[Citizen_Tiger]

Haha
If Moi Moi is upright, kasiano gets him round the chest torso somewhere and we aint talking about this
4+ weeks…...the tackle didnt go awry, the ball carrier did!!
Seriously, youve no clue.

So tell me why Manu hasnt been charged with kneeing Thaiday in the jaw :unamused:

Youre a uni student arent you :unamused:


I don't know why you are ignoring the fact that Kasiano used a swinging arm. It is careless. If Fui ran into Kasiano's stationary arm, there wouldn't be a suspension.

Your Manu argument is narrow minded. Manu is leaping for the ball, same as any other player would - there is nothing careless in his actions in my opinion. Let's not forget the obvious fact that Manu isn't even making a tackle.

Kasiano has a choice to swing his arm, Manu doesn't have a choice to raise his knee if he is leaping for the ball. The comparison is fundamentally flawed.

No I am not a Uni student - but I have been the Uni - does that make a difference?

*Ends constructive post without need to try and insult or belittle others*[

Well constructed arguments Centaur, but that level of logic is wasted unfortunately, you need to start playing the man mate, it's the accepted strategy. Yeah and don't u come in here all uppity just cause you got a degree mate :roll

 

[tigerkaz]

Fui Fui was falling, No way should Kasiano be put on report. These things happen from time to time, he didn't do it to be nasty.

 

[underdog]

If Blair got 1 week for his "Leg-Pull" then Kasiano gets 9 weeks for his "swinging arm"

a bit of difference might be one was intentional, the other not so

sorry, forgot my "/sarcasm" tag.

The fact that he's copping a week though is ludicrous - he's paying for Fui being clumsy.

 

[tig_prmz]

If Blair got 1 week for his "Leg-Pull" then Kasiano gets 9 weeks for his "swinging arm"

a bit of difference might be one was intentional, the other not so

sorry, forgot my "/sarcasm" tag.

The fact that he's copping a week though is ludicrous - he's paying for Fui being clumsy.

didn't realise at all it was sarcasm.. no hard feelings

 

[Demonborger]

Intentional? lol

Lets look at driving, dangerous driving can be intentional and it can be unintentional, it is still dangerous driving. Same for tackling, dangerous tackles can be intentional or unintentional, they're still dangerous. Kasiano had a swinging arm which resulted in a dangerous tackle, now the fact it was dangerous relied on Fui stumbling to lower his head, so the tackle is contributory from both. Kasiano should be suspended but the fact it was contributory should mean the suspension is on the short side. Head contact where accidental, intentional or unintentional should be removed from the game before we see concussions ruin the game. To contact the head accidentally or unintentional is a sign of an incompetent player in a professional game.

There's nothing tough about giving another person concussion, deliberately or accidentally.

 

[tig_prmz]

Intentional? lol

Lets look at driving, dangerous driving can be intentional and it can be unintentional, it is still dangerous driving. Same for tackling, dangerous tackles can be intentional or unintentional, they're still dangerous. Kasiano had a swinging arm which resulted in a dangerous tackle, now the fact it was dangerous relied on Fui stumbling to lower his head, so the tackle is contributory from both. Kasiano should be suspended but the fact it was contributory should mean the suspension is on the short side. Head contact where accidental, intentional or unintentional should be removed from the game before we see concussions ruin the game. To contact the head accidentally or unintentional is a sign of an incompetent player in a professional game.

what if you're going for a classic tackle, your eyes on the guy's waist, the bloke slips, your shoulder hits their head?
is it the fact that kasiano had a swinging arm which got him in trouble or that his swinging arm made contact with fui's head?

i have no opinions in this matter atm, im still trying to figure out WHY he was punished and why t-rex was given 7 weeks for the same incident beginning of the year

 

[innsaneink]

Not guilty!

Thankfully some of us know what we are talking about

 

[cunno]

Great that will make the manly bulldogs game more interesting.

 

[innsaneink]

Risk and reward, choice and no choice…fundamentall flawed, pfft.
Someones talking out of a bloody text book, tertiary experts.....get some real life experience then come back :unamused:

 

[Centaur]

I was wondering how long it would take for you come out blowing your trumpet.

My opinion hasn't changed, I thought they were trying to take a stronger stance on careless contact with the head.
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[innsaneink]

I was wondering how long it would take for you come out blowing your trumpet.

couldnt have been for too long, he was only just found not guilty 15 or so mins ago

My opinion hasn't changed, I thought they were trying to take a stronger stance on careless contact with the head.
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you will learn more from life experiences and common sense every day, dont be impatient…your time will come

 

[Centaur]

I realise it was only 15 minutes - I actually thought you would have moved a little quicker…must be old age.
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[tig_prmz]

Canterbury prop Sam Kasiano will be free to face Manly on Friday after being found not guilty of a grade-two careless high tackle by the NRL judiciary on Wednesday.
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Kasiano was placed on report after collecting Parramatta prop Fuifui Moimoi across the head with his right arm in the opening 10 seconds of the Bulldogs' 32-12 win over the Eels last Friday.
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The NRL's counsel Peter Kite said he accepted there was no suggestion of intent or recklessness from Kasiano, but the giant Kiwi had not shown the necessary duty of care to avoid forceful contact with the upper head and neck area of Moimoi.
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Kite said the incident was "a good old fashioned coathanger", and that Kasiano didn't have a target, and "simply threw an arm out".
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Canterbury's counsel Nick Ghabar said Kasiano did not have the time to change his line of attack as Moimoi was slipping as he was running with the ball.
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He used a selection of still photographs of the incident to argue that the prop's arm would have been below the ball had Moimoi's body not been so low to the ground.
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"It was very substantial drop in very quick time that caused this," Ghabar said.
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"It's quite obvious that Mr Moimoi has dropped from the knees by 50cm in 0.4 seconds."
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Judiciary chairman Paul Conlon sent the panel of Sean Garlick, Royce Ayliffe and Don McKinnon out of the room to ask Kite to clarify some of the elements of his argument.
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And after 20 minutes of deliberation, the panel found Kasiano - who was supported by coach Des Hasler, chief executive Todd Greenberg and football manager Alan Thompson - not guilty.
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"We're pleased with the verdict and looking forward to facing Manly on Friday," Greenberg said.
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"We are very well versed in these situations and there is a big difference between an accident and being deliberate and those shown."
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Kasiano said he was relieved to be cleared and was looking forward to helping the Bulldogs beat Hasler's former side in what is expected to be a red-hot encounter at Brookvale.
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"I am very happy and can focus on the game now," he said.
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Earlier on Wednesday, South Sydney hooker Issac Luke pleaded guilty to a grade-two lifting tackle on Sydney Roosters Jared Waerea-Hargreaves in his side's 24-22 win on Monday.
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Luke will miss Souths' next three games starting with Saturday's clash with St George Illawarra at ANZ Stadium.

in all this, hopefully moi moi is OK

 

[innsaneink]

I realise it was only 15 minutes - **I actually thought you would have moved a little quicker**…must be old age.
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Sorry to disappoint you…...
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