International triple header *live thread*

@OzLuke To be honest I don't know if any of the dances I observed over the years were sacred, although I suspect one in particular was.
I also don't know if traditional elders would be willing to teach dances to outsiders.
I do know that in all of the cases of 'Elder - novice' traditional education I have been aware of or tried to facilitate, the personal/kinship relationships have to be correct or it simply won't happen.
From what I have experienced, traditional knowledge is held very close and protected by the elders that have gained it. Open knowledge (non sacred) will be shared even with non Aboriginal people after those individuals have been accepted as worth teaching. Personally, I only know of a few non Aboriginal people that gained enough trust to be taught inside (sacred) knowledge.
 
@NT_Tiger said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076658) said:
@OzLuke
It would also be interesting to see what dance they come up with. From my experience, knowledge of proper 'in law' dances is very rare on the ground.
In the area I worked and lived, very few people were willing to perform religious dances, for example funeral dances, because they simply didn't have full knowledge of how to perform them properly. Particularly if someone important died, the local people would wait until a certain group of elders from within Arnhemland could come to perform the dancing.
The dances are taken very seriously and I can assure you that **some of them are quite frightening, every bit as much as a haka.**
The other side of the coin may be that if the dance is sacred (which it could well be) there is very little likelihood that anyone would be willing to teach it to outsiders.
Most likely the result, if there is one, is that it would be some kind of gammon.

You honestly think the haka is frightening?
 
@cktiger said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076889) said:
@NT_Tiger said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076658) said:
@OzLuke
It would also be interesting to see what dance they come up with. From my experience, knowledge of proper 'in law' dances is very rare on the ground.
In the area I worked and lived, very few people were willing to perform religious dances, for example funeral dances, because they simply didn't have full knowledge of how to perform them properly. Particularly if someone important died, the local people would wait until a certain group of elders from within Arnhemland could come to perform the dancing.
The dances are taken very seriously and I can assure you that **some of them are quite frightening, every bit as much as a haka.**
The other side of the coin may be that if the dance is sacred (which it could well be) there is very little likelihood that anyone would be willing to teach it to outsiders.
Most likely the result, if there is one, is that it would be some kind of gammon.

You honestly think the haka is frightening?

No but I don't think that it is fair that teams can't challenge the haka in the true sense
 
@cktiger
As an afterthought, intimidating would have been a better word. The dance I was talking about was very 'in your face' and definitely intimidating.
The haka would also be intimidating if it was the first time you saw it and it was about two metres away.
 
@happy_tiger said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1077004) said:
Now this is cool

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/11/06/tonga-declare-public-holiday-for-woolfs-winning-warriors/

Maybe a public flogging for the guys in our team who didn't bother to try?
 
@happy_tiger said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076920) said:
@cktiger said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076889) said:
@NT_Tiger said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076658) said:
@OzLuke
It would also be interesting to see what dance they come up with. From my experience, knowledge of proper 'in law' dances is very rare on the ground.
In the area I worked and lived, very few people were willing to perform religious dances, for example funeral dances, because they simply didn't have full knowledge of how to perform them properly. Particularly if someone important died, the local people would wait until a certain group of elders from within Arnhemland could come to perform the dancing.
The dances are taken very seriously and I can assure you that **some of them are quite frightening, every bit as much as a haka.**
The other side of the coin may be that if the dance is sacred (which it could well be) there is very little likelihood that anyone would be willing to teach it to outsiders.
Most likely the result, if there is one, is that it would be some kind of gammon.

You honestly think the haka is frightening?

This haka was kind of scary, but they lost it towards the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It2hm7VaLgA
No but I don't think that it is fair that teams can't challenge the haka in the true sense
 
@rustycage said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1077248) said:
@happy_tiger said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076920) said:
@cktiger said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076889) said:
@NT_Tiger said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1076658) said:
@OzLuke
It would also be interesting to see what dance they come up with. From my experience, knowledge of proper 'in law' dances is very rare on the ground.
In the area I worked and lived, very few people were willing to perform religious dances, for example funeral dances, because they simply didn't have full knowledge of how to perform them properly. Particularly if someone important died, the local people would wait until a certain group of elders from within Arnhemland could come to perform the dancing.
The dances are taken very seriously and I can assure you that **some of them are quite frightening, every bit as much as a haka.**
The other side of the coin may be that if the dance is sacred (which it could well be) there is very little likelihood that anyone would be willing to teach it to outsiders.
Most likely the result, if there is one, is that it would be some kind of gammon.

You honestly think the haka is frightening?


This haka was kind of scary, but they lost it towards the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It2hm7VaLgA
No but I don't think that it is fair that teams can't challenge the haka in the true sense

LOL ....funny you mention Red Faces ...a cousin of mine got discovered on Red Faces ...performed the song that he got discovered performing as his last act

Even more ironic ...he shares your name
 
@cktiger said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1077220) said:
@happy_tiger said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1077004) said:
Now this is cool

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/11/06/tonga-declare-public-holiday-for-woolfs-winning-warriors/

Maybe a public flogging for the guys in our team who didn't bother to try?

Not into public floggings ....crucifixions though ...different story
 
@Madge said in [International triple header \*live thread\*](/post/1077630) said:
Looks likes the refs are going to be in control of this game... smh

Xray vision as the nz commentator said
 
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