Isaiah Papali’i - Mega Thread

coivtny

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Parra always had 12 months to talk him around....
But that's true of every contract I suppose. A properly executed contract is legally binding and Pap can't renege unless he has a get-out clause which I believe he does not. The only way he gets out is if we let him go.
 
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Fade.To.Black

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Not our problem.
Why wouldn't it be our problem if he came here and kicked stones, played like a busted until we cracked and let him walk?
It's very much our problem if he decided to go that route. See Exhibits A and B, Matterson and Aloiai.
Which I don't think he will anyway.
 

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Why wouldn't it be our problem if he came here and kicked stones, played like a busted until we cracked and let him walk?
It's very much our problem if he decided to go that route. See Exhibits A and B, Matterson and Aloiai.
Which I don't think he will anyway.

Fair call but you have to stand your ground at some point. It would mean 3 years out of the game for him. That is a long time.
 

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It's pretty simple - Tigers do not permit any release to the contract, if such a request did exist. There is no other solution. Even if Parramatta or Papali'i himself truly made an official request to worm out of the deal, you do not accept, no matter what.

It's one thing to accept an early release request of an existing player, if that is ultimately decided to be in your best interests, e.g. chance to spend future salary cap, remove a bad egg from your roster etc.

But to release a future signing before he's even played - you simply cannot afford to do that, otherwise you undermine every contract with every future player. No club can afford to do it, Tigers or otherwise.

For example, it's not Tigers' fault that IP negotiated his contract when he did, and if he wants more money, that's an entirely different conversation. It's also unwarranted because both Tigers and Parramatta have made roster decisions based on accepted contracts, so it's only since IP was signed that Luch, Garner and Telma have left.

So even if the story is true, this is not anything like Matterson or Aloiai, and the cooling-off periods that Tedesco used on Canberra do not exist any more.

Without seeing IP's contract, I am certain there are also guarantees on things like who the head coach is, club's ladder position etc.
 

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Really?…care to explain how can he have two employers concurrently…..
The contract is in effect now, it will have been lodged with NRL and contain signatures of the date of execution / agreement.

You can enter an agreement now for activity that will occur in the future, and there are a million examples of this.

For example knocking down my house - I will enter a agreement with the builder months before any work starts, but that doesn't mean my contract only applies at the point they start laying bricks. I can't back out without agreement or compensation for the builder.
 

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Really?…care to explain how can he have two employers concurrently…..

Day 1 Contract Law....FROLIC

He has two CONTRACTS, not employers.

A Contract has Consideration and that Consideration can not be exclusive. His Consideration under one Contract is to play and train for Parramatta until 31/10/2022 and Parras Consideration is to pay him until then. His Consideration under the Tigers Contract is to play/train from 01/11/2022 to 31/10/2025 and Tigers pay him from then.
 

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His employment contract with WT commences Nov 1, 2022.
He has already entered into a contract with the WT's to provide his services to the club from that date and the club have undertaken to pay him ~$600K/a from that date and for the following 3 years. He is subject to a binding employment contract. He cannot just walk away from it and the club would have numerous legal remedies if he did.
 

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Surely the club isn't that stupid to put a coaching clause in the contract. If they are then whoever made that contract should be sacked.

There should also be a review on why Madge was sacked because it has been a disaster.
Come on Earl . . . . everyone knows Madge HAD to be sacked so we could finally put and end to the inept performances, poor bench rotations and endless losses and pea-heart efforts on field.
Like, surely you can see how much better we are for sacking him ?
The greatest irony would be if IP could walk from his contract coz we sacked Madge.
It would take the stupidity of sacking him to a whole new level.
 

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The greatest irony would be if IP could walk from his contract coz we sacked Madge.

This would have nothing to do with sacking Madge. I can't even fathom how stupid this would be.

Sacking Madge was stupid though. Extremely dumb. Don't worry though mate. The guy who sacked him is looking like taking his job so all will be good.
 

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If he gets out of his contract this is my 23 year as a suffering Tigers supporter and I will not be back next year and will not renew all the memberships I buy as Christmas presents

Maybe giving West Tiger memberships to family and friends is not a good present anyway
 

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Don’t stress fellas. We’ll get the appropriate monetary compensation. Pascoe will make it clear we won’t get walked over.

Why wouldn't it be our problem if he came here and kicked stones, played like a busted until we cracked and let him walk?
It's very much our problem if he decided to go that route. See Exhibits A and B, Matterson and Aloiai.
Which I don't think he will anyway.
Parra think they can put one over Wests Tigers. Not anymore Moses and Matterson. Tigers have learnt.
 
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