It's time to take the fight back to HBG

HBG shouldn’t be within a 1000 miles of an NRL franchise. Rotten and incompetent to the core.
Do you think they had WTs best interests at heart when extending Benji for so long earlier?

Wouldnt surprise me.if they saw it as a way to ensure failure...crazy i know but they really dont care about much other than buying clubs and.playong at lidcombe
 
Is this because Luai left and to do with Richo bailing?

I tired of people saying this is a distraction for players. What a cop out! If someone leaves my job ok move on. It’s not distracting to me that they’re going. If you’re using that as an excuse to play shit and it’s not even you, you shouldn’t be playing first grade.
 
Is this because Luai left and to do with Richo bailing?

I tired of people saying this is a distraction for players. What a cop out! If someone leaves my job ok move on. It’s not distracting to me that they’re going. If you’re using that as an excuse to play shit and it’s not even you, you shouldn’t be playing first grade.
I'm not sure spreadsheets and playing a physical contact sport are comparable.
 
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can someone brush up on what happened in 1999

Paid Football club members from both Balmain and Wests Football clubs voted in agreeance to a joint venture.

Those same members did they give up voting rights or somehow the organisation has transformed into a dictatorship club or something? How did we ever get to this point that boards cant be ousted ?
 
can someone brush up on what happened in 1999

Paid Football club members from both Balmain and Wests Football clubs voted in agreeance to a joint venture.

Those same members did they give up voting rights or somehow the organisation has transformed into a dictatorship club or something? How did we ever get to this point that boards cant be ousted ?
I think members of both wests and balmain voted for their respective boards and the WT board was made up of 50/50

I think it all changed after Balmain lost BLC...Wests paid their debt and here we are
 
And I think the
I think members of both wests and balmain voted for their respective boards and the WT board was made up of 50/50

I think it all changed after Balmain lost BLC...Wests paid their debt and here we are
Another important piece of the puzzle is that Wests Ashfield (now HBG) isn’t controlled by a regular members voting process, but rather with differential controlling voting power which is held by those with “debentures”.

So the entity which owns the Wests Tigers franchise is controlled by the small number of debenture holders
 
This letter illustrates the structure:


It states: “As Debentures become available, the Board calls for Expressions of Interest from suitably qualified General Members to fill any vacancies. There is a constitutional requirement for five (5) Director positions to be filled by General Members holding a Debenture. Two (2) Board positions are reserved for other members.”

So, there are a handful of debentures (the number isn’t clear but the letter states there were originally 20), and the board consists of 5 debenture holders and 2 board members representing all other members.

So the debenture holders control the board (5 of 7 votes).

When a debenture holder dies, their debenture becomes available and the board gets to select who the debenture goes to.

So, in practice, the debenture holders control the board and get to decide who debentures go to, meaning other members cannot ever exert any control.

So the Wests Tigers are controlled by 20 unaccountable people.
 
so what do we do? How do we finally get HBG out? From ACCC reporting, Liquor and gaming investigation, their mass incompetency that still doesn’t move the nrl… what hasn’t been tried? what must be done to wrestle our club from their cold dead hands?
 
Is the club having trouble producing young talent?
Absolutely. We've produced one decent talent for us in the last decade, Pole. The most shallow talent pool in the comp
Players with minimal athletic ability who are poorly coached. We've never had worse pathways than we do now.

Never.
 
Absolutely. We've produced one decent talent for us in the last decade, Pole. The most shallow talent pool in the comp
Players with minimal athletic ability who are poorly coached. We've never had worse pathways than we do now.

Never.
Is that producing or retaining talent?
 
Producing talent.

One sightly above average player in a decade is abysmal.

It's only when players leave the club that they start to improve. Players do not improve at WT
I think the club has had no trouble producing talented footballers.

It has difficulty developing them to their potential & retaining them in their peak years though.

I see what you are saying. But I think we see a number of talented players come through our junior ranks, which suggests the systems to identify etc are in place.

Retention starts to become a salary cap discussion.
 

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