liltiger
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Can anyone post the SMH article about fans calling for tge reinstatement of the independant board. Sorry im a tight bum bum.
It's time to take the fight back to HBG
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Jedi_Tiger
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keep the pressure in those HBG muppets
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tig_prmz
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This is the quickest off season article I've seen. They didn't even wait 12 hours until the end of the last game!
wstigers11
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Hope they write 1000 articles on it
Sick of this club being held ransom by unqualified debenture holders
Sick of this club being held ransom by unqualified debenture holders
Joel Helmes
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We will do what we can on Wests Tigers Podcast to support change.
Absolute first priority is the reinstatement of a wholly independent board that is populated by skilled individuals.
If this was to occur, and the HBG stayed out of decisions made for the best outcomes of Wests Tigers, then all this noise would go away.
The trouble is, when WT starts to go ahead, certain HBG parties feel control slipping through their sticky little fingers and their egos get bruised.
Absolute first priority is the reinstatement of a wholly independent board that is populated by skilled individuals.
If this was to occur, and the HBG stayed out of decisions made for the best outcomes of Wests Tigers, then all this noise would go away.
The trouble is, when WT starts to go ahead, certain HBG parties feel control slipping through their sticky little fingers and their egos get bruised.
Jedi_Tiger
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it affects the Blazers of the debenture holders and the free lunches
Plus too much damn orange in that jersey.
Nothing like Lidcombe Oval for that mob
The Wests Tigers need that independent Board
Any ideas how we can affect change this time around?
It seemed to me like that WTs United thing just fizzled out once the seasons started
Start mailing dog shit to all the board members.
Joel Helmes
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I think, as much as there was intense disappointment at the decisions made by HBG, there was some degree of leaving it alone to not be a distraction from the football.
It is also a lot of work and energy trying to coordinate some form of strategic protest movement, especially among a group of individuals who are all fans, but also have different platforms (such as podcasts). We all only have so much to give.
If permanent change is going to happen there has to be a united strategic direction and approach, but getting that is often easier said than done.
Surely if V Landys is serious about 'growing the game' he would want to see genuine teams in his growing competition. WT is an 'almost' team; almost enough 1st grade level players to field a team, almost enough reserve graders to cover for injuries, almost enough money to develop up and coming juniors, almost enough staff to manage all that.
The one thing we have heaps of is supporters, and that might be part of the problem. V Landys looks at the fan base and says 'they're doing fine'. Maybe we have to reinstate a 'fan based' public push for change.
The one thing we have heaps of is supporters, and that might be part of the problem. V Landys looks at the fan base and says 'they're doing fine'. Maybe we have to reinstate a 'fan based' public push for change.
Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan
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So basically the fans want what we already had and was working well. Brilliant idea. Now let's see what HBG have to say about that.
tig_prmz
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I think it's important to highlight that it's not personal and it has nothing to do with the debunture holders. The individuals whether it be at WT or HBG aren't to blame.
The debunture system seems to be quite effective at running a Leagues Club but not a Football Club.
The issue is the system and simply a Football Club regardless of having an independent board cannot run off a debunture system because the people within every part of the organisation need to be qualified within the field.
wstigers11
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Becomes personal though when they put their own interests ahead of WTs success
tig_prmz
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Everyone puts their own interests above others'. That's human nature.
A system allowing people to do that, or a system where everyone in the organisation doesn't have the same goal is a broken system.
I think everyone wants to paint HBG or Luai or Galvin etc as these big villains. In case of HBG, they are incompetent and our constitution, our systems have allowed them to be in- charge.
tigertragic
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The only thing that stands out is that positive things were happening around Wests Tigers under the independent board and CEO. Smart people doing smart things in the best interests of Wests Tigers. It would apppear that HBG does not always have the best interests of Wests Tigers in its decision making.
hammertime
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Why would we want the idiots who sent Balmain bankrupt in power again anyway?
We need to focus all our energy on getting HBG to do the right thing. Some debenture holders agree, and we almost had change if that coup hadn't happened. We need to get L&G and/or NRL to apply pressure - it's the only way forward
hammertime
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Hey Joel,
Have you ever heard anything from the HBG debenture holders about why they keep inserting themselves? Like, I know it's purely ego and control, but have you ever heard a narrative from them?
I'd love to really know what is going on in their heads. There are appropriate structures that can be set up so they still have some form of control if things go awry.
In my mind, it has to be a real elevated form of egomania/narcissism. Or they're in their own little self-affirming bubble that they are the right people for the job.
Joel, I don't think the confrontational approach towards the HBG taken by many of your followers within this forum is the way to gain a united strategic direction. Maybe there is another way mate.
Joel Helmes
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The underlying issue is that in 1999 a landscape was agreed upon. This included, primarily, a 50/50 governance structure and the ongoing existence of the foundation clubs in the second tier comp.
HBG and the Magpies FC cling steadfastly on to this structure.
Obviously, Balmain has essentially disappeared and a heck of a lot of water has gone under the bridge since this deal was done. Simply, it doesn’t work any longer as WT has completely outgrown what was put in place over 25 years ago.
Eventually, natural attrition will wipe out the old and WT will become its own entity, it’s just a matter of how and when we get there.
