Its your job - run off Roberts and Noffa

Toowoomba_Tiger

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When i think of the better centres back in the 80's and 90's they could all create something from a nothing play. Be that creating an overlap on the outside with a draw and pass to their wingers but more-so i loved watching centres cutting back in field looking to link with an inside runner. It generally throws the opposition defense into array.
Too often these days we see the wide spread come to a halt with the centre or winger. Yet we have 2 players in Roberts and Noffa who love to cut back across the defensive line looking for holes. But for crying out loud their teammates just stand their watching. We need our boys running lines off these two boys. We will get some joy from it, no doubt. If not a line break it will be a quick play the ball for the next play with the defensive line scuttled somewhat.
We need to implement these type of plays to break through the better teams with strong defensive structures. So come on fellas when you see Roberts cutting back in field, which he dies atleast once a game, run at a gap and Roberts will put you through with soft hands. Don't just stand back and watch, it's your job to give him options.
 
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327017) said:
When i think of the better centres back in the 80's and 90's they could all create something from a nothing play. Be that creating an overlap on the outside with a draw and pass to their wingers but more-so i loved watching centres cutting back in field looking to link with an inside runner. It generally throws the opposition defense into array.
Too often these days we see the wide spread come to a halt with the centre or winger. Yet we have 2 players in Roberts and Noffa who love to cut back across the defensive line looking for holes. But for crying out loud their teammates just stand their watching. We need our boys running lines off these two boys. We will get some joy from it, no doubt. If not a line break it will be a quick play the ball for the next play with the defensive line scuttled somewhat.
We need to implement these type of plays to break through the better teams with strong defensive structures. So come on fellas when you see Roberts cutting back in field, which he dies atleast once a game, run at a gap and Roberts will put you through with soft hands. Don't just stand back and watch, it's your job to give him options.

I was watching an old Balmain v Panthers game, the game where Maguire knocked Cartwright out. Brasher followed Roach around in support looking for the offload just about every play. Look at Papenhuyzen and Hughes, Munster same thing. We really need an overhaul of the way we play.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327018) said:
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327017) said:
When i think of the better centres back in the 80's and 90's they could all create something from a nothing play. Be that creating an overlap on the outside with a draw and pass to their wingers but more-so i loved watching centres cutting back in field looking to link with an inside runner. It generally throws the opposition defense into array.
Too often these days we see the wide spread come to a halt with the centre or winger. Yet we have 2 players in Roberts and Noffa who love to cut back across the defensive line looking for holes. But for crying out loud their teammates just stand their watching. We need our boys running lines off these two boys. We will get some joy from it, no doubt. If not a line break it will be a quick play the ball for the next play with the defensive line scuttled somewhat.
We need to implement these type of plays to break through the better teams with strong defensive structures. So come on fellas when you see Roberts cutting back in field, which he dies atleast once a game, run at a gap and Roberts will put you through with soft hands. Don't just stand back and watch, it's your job to give him options.

I was watching an old Balmain v Panthers game, the game where Maguire knocked Cartwright out. Brasher followed Roach around in support looking for the offload just about every play. Look at Papenhuyzen and Hughes, Munster same thing. We really need an overhaul of the way we play.


I get the feeling they've been told not to offload. If so, it's unfortunate as I think that's our way to winning a lot more than we don't.
 
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327017) said:
When i think of the better centres back in the 80's and 90's they could all create something from a nothing play. Be that creating an overlap on the outside with a draw and pass to their wingers but more-so i loved watching centres cutting back in field looking to link with an inside runner. It generally throws the opposition defense into array.
Too often these days we see the wide spread come to a halt with the centre or winger. Yet we have 2 players in Roberts and Noffa who love to cut back across the defensive line looking for holes. But for crying out loud their teammates just stand their watching. We need our boys running lines off these two boys. We will get some joy from it, no doubt. If not a line break it will be a quick play the ball for the next play with the defensive line scuttled somewhat.
We need to implement these type of plays to break through the better teams with strong defensive structures. So come on fellas when you see Roberts cutting back in field, which he dies atleast once a game, run at a gap and Roberts will put you through with soft hands. Don't just stand back and watch, it's your job to give him options.

OK ...so if the winger and centre are going to cut back inside as you say ..any player who is going to be running a line will be starting their line from inside the outside 3rd ..they will stand out like a polka dotted elephant .....plus any decent side is sliding so any holes will get covered from the inside

Its far easier to create space in the middle half of the field because it easier to have more players in motion and to plant far slower defenders

In the modern game ..the only time you should be cutting back inside is when you run out of space outside ..when that happens a play has failed as such ...it has spread the defensive line for the next play yes , and if you can spread the ball quick enough you might catch them next play

If Roberts ,Talau or BJ runs and angled run or crash line (As Rowdy would do ) your hooker will be following in that space as if it fails he needs quick ball as the defence is not set and has been narrowed (ie 3-4 players around the play the ball ) and a quick spread should create numbers
 
@rustycage said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327021) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327018) said:
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327017) said:
When i think of the better centres back in the 80's and 90's they could all create something from a nothing play. Be that creating an overlap on the outside with a draw and pass to their wingers but more-so i loved watching centres cutting back in field looking to link with an inside runner. It generally throws the opposition defense into array.
Too often these days we see the wide spread come to a halt with the centre or winger. Yet we have 2 players in Roberts and Noffa who love to cut back across the defensive line looking for holes. But for crying out loud their teammates just stand their watching. We need our boys running lines off these two boys. We will get some joy from it, no doubt. If not a line break it will be a quick play the ball for the next play with the defensive line scuttled somewhat.
We need to implement these type of plays to break through the better teams with strong defensive structures. So come on fellas when you see Roberts cutting back in field, which he dies atleast once a game, run at a gap and Roberts will put you through with soft hands. Don't just stand back and watch, it's your job to give him options.

I was watching an old Balmain v Panthers game, the game where Maguire knocked Cartwright out. Brasher followed Roach around in support looking for the offload just about every play. Look at Papenhuyzen and Hughes, Munster same thing. We really need an overhaul of the way we play.


I get the feeling they've been told not to offload. If so, it's unfortunate as I think that's our way to winning a lot more than we don't.

I'd say until the combinations start clicking that completion rates are Madge's No 1 priority ....and leads to less defence and less repeats sets for the opposition

The less defence for the WT's the better ...we will struggle beating Top 8 sides if we don't have 50+% possession rate
 
@rustycage said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327021) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327018) said:
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327017) said:
When i think of the better centres back in the 80's and 90's they could all create something from a nothing play. Be that creating an overlap on the outside with a draw and pass to their wingers but more-so i loved watching centres cutting back in field looking to link with an inside runner. It generally throws the opposition defense into array.
Too often these days we see the wide spread come to a halt with the centre or winger. Yet we have 2 players in Roberts and Noffa who love to cut back across the defensive line looking for holes. But for crying out loud their teammates just stand their watching. We need our boys running lines off these two boys. We will get some joy from it, no doubt. If not a line break it will be a quick play the ball for the next play with the defensive line scuttled somewhat.
We need to implement these type of plays to break through the better teams with strong defensive structures. So come on fellas when you see Roberts cutting back in field, which he dies atleast once a game, run at a gap and Roberts will put you through with soft hands. Don't just stand back and watch, it's your job to give him options.

I was watching an old Balmain v Panthers game, the game where Maguire knocked Cartwright out. Brasher followed Roach around in support looking for the offload just about every play. Look at Papenhuyzen and Hughes, Munster same thing. We really need an overhaul of the way we play.


I get the feeling they've been told not to offload. If so, it's unfortunate as I think that's our way to winning a lot more than we don't.

Strange because they were offloading at will in the trial game against Manly
 
@upthetigers said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327029) said:
@rustycage said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327021) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327018) said:
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327017) said:
When i think of the better centres back in the 80's and 90's they could all create something from a nothing play. Be that creating an overlap on the outside with a draw and pass to their wingers but more-so i loved watching centres cutting back in field looking to link with an inside runner. It generally throws the opposition defense into array.
Too often these days we see the wide spread come to a halt with the centre or winger. Yet we have 2 players in Roberts and Noffa who love to cut back across the defensive line looking for holes. But for crying out loud their teammates just stand their watching. We need our boys running lines off these two boys. We will get some joy from it, no doubt. If not a line break it will be a quick play the ball for the next play with the defensive line scuttled somewhat.
We need to implement these type of plays to break through the better teams with strong defensive structures. So come on fellas when you see Roberts cutting back in field, which he dies atleast once a game, run at a gap and Roberts will put you through with soft hands. Don't just stand back and watch, it's your job to give him options.

I was watching an old Balmain v Panthers game, the game where Maguire knocked Cartwright out. Brasher followed Roach around in support looking for the offload just about every play. Look at Papenhuyzen and Hughes, Munster same thing. We really need an overhaul of the way we play.


I get the feeling they've been told not to offload. If so, it's unfortunate as I think that's our way to winning a lot more than we don't.

Strange because they were offloading at will in the trial game against Manly

Trials aren't worth 2 competition points ....
 
I get the feeling they've been told not to offload. If so, it's unfortunate as I think that's our way to winning a lot more than we don't.

Strange because they were offloading at will in the trial game against Manly

I noticed the same and I'm ok with us playing higher percentage and disciplined footy early on.

I prefer this to always pushing passes that are not on in the hope that something will eventuate.

Points will come especially with JTJ and nofo.
 
@spartan117 said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327063) said:
I get the feeling they've been told not to offload. If so, it's unfortunate as I think that's our way to winning a lot more than we don't.

Strange because they were offloading at will in the trial game against Manly

I noticrd the same and I'm ok with us playing higher percentage and disciplined footy early on.

I prefer this to always pushing passes that are not on in The hope that something will eventuate.

Points will come especially with JTJ and nofo.

Still prefer Jimmy with Kepaoa ....attack wise .....
 
@happy_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327027) said:
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327017) said:
When i think of the better centres back in the 80's and 90's they could all create something from a nothing play. Be that creating an overlap on the outside with a draw and pass to their wingers but more-so i loved watching centres cutting back in field looking to link with an inside runner. It generally throws the opposition defense into array.
Too often these days we see the wide spread come to a halt with the centre or winger. Yet we have 2 players in Roberts and Noffa who love to cut back across the defensive line looking for holes. But for crying out loud their teammates just stand their watching. We need our boys running lines off these two boys. We will get some joy from it, no doubt. If not a line break it will be a quick play the ball for the next play with the defensive line scuttled somewhat.
We need to implement these type of plays to break through the better teams with strong defensive structures. So come on fellas when you see Roberts cutting back in field, which he dies atleast once a game, run at a gap and Roberts will put you through with soft hands. Don't just stand back and watch, it's your job to give him options.

OK ...so if the winger and centre are going to cut back inside as you say ..any player who is going to be running a line will be starting their line from inside the outside 3rd ..they will stand out like a polka dotted elephant .....plus any decent side is sliding so any holes will get covered from the inside

Its far easier to create space in the middle half of the field because it easier to have more players in motion and to plant far slower defenders

In the modern game ..the only time you should be cutting back inside is when you run out of space outside ..when that happens a play has failed as such ...it has spread the defensive line for the next play yes , and if you can spread the ball quick enough you might catch them next play

If Roberts ,Talau or BJ runs and angled run or crash line (As Rowdy would do ) your hooker will be following in that space as if it fails he needs quick ball as the defence is not set and has been narrowed (ie 3-4 players around the play the ball ) and a quick spread should create numbers

That's just the point. All those percentage plays are predictable and good defensive teams swallow that up.
I get Noffa has been swallowed up himself cutting infield this year, but again that's my point. A pass onto a hard straight runner is needed.
Ultimately Roberts and Noffa will continue to do it and Roberts especially is dangerous when he does. I'd just like to see his teammates read his run and utilise that bit of x factor.
 
@rustycage said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327021) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327018) said:
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327017) said:
When i think of the better centres back in the 80's and 90's they could all create something from a nothing play. Be that creating an overlap on the outside with a draw and pass to their wingers but more-so i loved watching centres cutting back in field looking to link with an inside runner. It generally throws the opposition defense into array.
Too often these days we see the wide spread come to a halt with the centre or winger. Yet we have 2 players in Roberts and Noffa who love to cut back across the defensive line looking for holes. But for crying out loud their teammates just stand their watching. We need our boys running lines off these two boys. We will get some joy from it, no doubt. If not a line break it will be a quick play the ball for the next play with the defensive line scuttled somewhat.
We need to implement these type of plays to break through the better teams with strong defensive structures. So come on fellas when you see Roberts cutting back in field, which he dies atleast once a game, run at a gap and Roberts will put you through with soft hands. Don't just stand back and watch, it's your job to give him options.

I was watching an old Balmain v Panthers game, the game where Maguire knocked Cartwright out. Brasher followed Roach around in support looking for the offload just about every play. Look at Papenhuyzen and Hughes, Munster same thing. We really need an overhaul of the way we play.


I get the feeling they've been told not to offload. If so, it's unfortunate as I think that's our way to winning a lot more than we don't.

I'd say Madge is looking at one thing at a time.
 
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327090) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327027) said:
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327017) said:
When i think of the better centres back in the 80's and 90's they could all create something from a nothing play. Be that creating an overlap on the outside with a draw and pass to their wingers but more-so i loved watching centres cutting back in field looking to link with an inside runner. It generally throws the opposition defense into array.
Too often these days we see the wide spread come to a halt with the centre or winger. Yet we have 2 players in Roberts and Noffa who love to cut back across the defensive line looking for holes. But for crying out loud their teammates just stand their watching. We need our boys running lines off these two boys. We will get some joy from it, no doubt. If not a line break it will be a quick play the ball for the next play with the defensive line scuttled somewhat.
We need to implement these type of plays to break through the better teams with strong defensive structures. So come on fellas when you see Roberts cutting back in field, which he dies atleast once a game, run at a gap and Roberts will put you through with soft hands. Don't just stand back and watch, it's your job to give him options.

OK ...so if the winger and centre are going to cut back inside as you say ..any player who is going to be running a line will be starting their line from inside the outside 3rd ..they will stand out like a polka dotted elephant .....plus any decent side is sliding so any holes will get covered from the inside

Its far easier to create space in the middle half of the field because it easier to have more players in motion and to plant far slower defenders

In the modern game ..the only time you should be cutting back inside is when you run out of space outside ..when that happens a play has failed as such ...it has spread the defensive line for the next play yes , and if you can spread the ball quick enough you might catch them next play

If Roberts ,Talau or BJ runs and angled run or crash line (As Rowdy would do ) your hooker will be following in that space as if it fails he needs quick ball as the defence is not set and has been narrowed (ie 3-4 players around the play the ball ) and a quick spread should create numbers

That's just the point. All those percentage plays are predictable and good defensive teams swallow that up.
I get Noffa has been swallowed up himself cutting infield this year, but again that's my point. A pass onto a hard straight runner is needed.
Ultimately Roberts and Noffa will continue to do it and Roberts especially is dangerous when he does. I'd just like to see his teammates read his run and utilise that bit of x factor.

So the runner you mention that is going to come off Nofa will need to be sitting back in the left or right 3rd of the field and will stand stand out like a polka dot hippo
 
@happy_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327135) said:
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327090) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327027) said:
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327017) said:
When i think of the better centres back in the 80's and 90's they could all create something from a nothing play. Be that creating an overlap on the outside with a draw and pass to their wingers but more-so i loved watching centres cutting back in field looking to link with an inside runner. It generally throws the opposition defense into array.
Too often these days we see the wide spread come to a halt with the centre or winger. Yet we have 2 players in Roberts and Noffa who love to cut back across the defensive line looking for holes. But for crying out loud their teammates just stand their watching. We need our boys running lines off these two boys. We will get some joy from it, no doubt. If not a line break it will be a quick play the ball for the next play with the defensive line scuttled somewhat.
We need to implement these type of plays to break through the better teams with strong defensive structures. So come on fellas when you see Roberts cutting back in field, which he dies atleast once a game, run at a gap and Roberts will put you through with soft hands. Don't just stand back and watch, it's your job to give him options.

OK ...so if the winger and centre are going to cut back inside as you say ..any player who is going to be running a line will be starting their line from inside the outside 3rd ..they will stand out like a polka dotted elephant .....plus any decent side is sliding so any holes will get covered from the inside

Its far easier to create space in the middle half of the field because it easier to have more players in motion and to plant far slower defenders

In the modern game ..the only time you should be cutting back inside is when you run out of space outside ..when that happens a play has failed as such ...it has spread the defensive line for the next play yes , and if you can spread the ball quick enough you might catch them next play

If Roberts ,Talau or BJ runs and angled run or crash line (As Rowdy would do ) your hooker will be following in that space as if it fails he needs quick ball as the defence is not set and has been narrowed (ie 3-4 players around the play the ball ) and a quick spread should create numbers

That's just the point. All those percentage plays are predictable and good defensive teams swallow that up.
I get Noffa has been swallowed up himself cutting infield this year, but again that's my point. A pass onto a hard straight runner is needed.
Ultimately Roberts and Noffa will continue to do it and Roberts especially is dangerous when he does. I'd just like to see his teammates read his run and utilise that bit of x factor.

So the runner you mention that is going to come off Nofa will need to be sitting back in the left or right 3rd of the field and will stand stand out like a polka dot hippo

No it's not a set play it's a bit if adlib. The runners only need a to hit a hole off a short run up.
I understand your points though. Its not effective if they try it every set, just once or twice a game when inevitabely they will cut back inMostly you want Rob

@happy_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327135) said:
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327090) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327027) said:
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327017) said:
When i think of the better centres back in the 80's and 90's they could all create something from a nothing play. Be that creating an overlap on the outside with a draw and pass to their wingers but more-so i loved watching centres cutting back in field looking to link with an inside runner. It generally throws the opposition defense into array.
Too often these days we see the wide spread come to a halt with the centre or winger. Yet we have 2 players in Roberts and Noffa who love to cut back across the defensive line looking for holes. But for crying out loud their teammates just stand their watching. We need our boys running lines off these two boys. We will get some joy from it, no doubt. If not a line break it will be a quick play the ball for the next play with the defensive line scuttled somewhat.
We need to implement these type of plays to break through the better teams with strong defensive structures. So come on fellas when you see Roberts cutting back in field, which he dies atleast once a game, run at a gap and Roberts will put you through with soft hands. Don't just stand back and watch, it's your job to give him options.

OK ...so if the winger and centre are going to cut back inside as you say ..any player who is going to be running a line will be starting their line from inside the outside 3rd ..they will stand out like a polka dotted elephant .....plus any decent side is sliding so any holes will get covered from the inside

Its far easier to create space in the middle half of the field because it easier to have more players in motion and to plant far slower defenders

In the modern game ..the only time you should be cutting back inside is when you run out of space outside ..when that happens a play has failed as such ...it has spread the defensive line for the next play yes , and if you can spread the ball quick enough you might catch them next play

If Roberts ,Talau or BJ runs and angled run or crash line (As Rowdy would do ) your hooker will be following in that space as if it fails he needs quick ball as the defence is not set and has been narrowed (ie 3-4 players around the play the ball ) and a quick spread should create numbers

That's just the point. All those percentage plays are predictable and good defensive teams swallow that up.
I get Noffa has been swallowed up himself cutting infield this year, but again that's my point. A pass onto a hard straight runner is needed.
Ultimately Roberts and Noffa will continue to do it and Roberts especially is dangerous when he does. I'd just like to see his teammates read his run and utilise that bit of x factor.

So the runner you mention that is going to come off Nofa will need to be sitting back in the left or right 3rd of the field and will stand stand out like a polka dot hippo

No it's not a set play, it's trying to make the most of a bit of adlib. The runners only need a short run up running at any gap in the defense.
I take your point though, its ineffective if they try it every set, just once or twice a game as inevitably Roberts will cut back in at some stage
 
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327017) said:
When i think of the better centres back in the 80's and 90's they could all create something from a nothing play. Be that creating an overlap on the outside with a draw and pass to their wingers but more-so i loved watching centres cutting back in field looking to link with an inside runner. It generally throws the opposition defense into array.
Too often these days we see the wide spread come to a halt with the centre or winger. Yet we have 2 players in Roberts and Noffa who love to cut back across the defensive line looking for holes. But for crying out loud their teammates just stand their watching. We need our boys running lines off these two boys. We will get some joy from it, no doubt. If not a line break it will be a quick play the ball for the next play with the defensive line scuttled somewhat.
We need to implement these type of plays to break through the better teams with strong defensive structures. So come on fellas when you see Roberts cutting back in field, which he dies atleast once a game, run at a gap and Roberts will put you through with soft hands. Don't just stand back and watch, it's your job to give him options.

Honestly cannot understand why this is not a thing.

I know that supposedly we are working on becoming some sort of a defensive unit and that supposedly that is what wins games, but are we so dumb that we can't do something about refining our attack.

You would think that under Madge our boys would be fit enough to do better than what our current line speed is in defense, our kick chase, that we would be backing up in attack and working on our off loads.

Sure, work on the defense, but a little razzle dazzle is what will really bring the fans through the gate and boost our membership numbers.

Surely it can't hurt, because the last time I looked, the team with the most points still wins the game.
 
@hank37w said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327333) said:
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327017) said:
When i think of the better centres back in the 80's and 90's they could all create something from a nothing play. Be that creating an overlap on the outside with a draw and pass to their wingers but more-so i loved watching centres cutting back in field looking to link with an inside runner. It generally throws the opposition defense into array.
Too often these days we see the wide spread come to a halt with the centre or winger. Yet we have 2 players in Roberts and Noffa who love to cut back across the defensive line looking for holes. But for crying out loud their teammates just stand their watching. We need our boys running lines off these two boys. We will get some joy from it, no doubt. If not a line break it will be a quick play the ball for the next play with the defensive line scuttled somewhat.
We need to implement these type of plays to break through the better teams with strong defensive structures. So come on fellas when you see Roberts cutting back in field, which he dies atleast once a game, run at a gap and Roberts will put you through with soft hands. Don't just stand back and watch, it's your job to give him options.

Honestly cannot understand why this is not a thing.

I know that supposedly we are working on becoming some sort of a defensive unit and that supposedly that is what wins games, but are we so dumb that we can't do something about refining our attack.

You would think that under Madge our boys would be fit enough to do better than what our current line speed is in defense, our kick chase, that we would be backing up in attack and working on our off loads.

Sure, work on the defense, but a little razzle dazzle is what will really bring the fans through the gate and boost our membership numbers.

Surely it can't hurt, because the last time I looked, the team with the most points still wins the game.

Funny how the best defensive sides seem to wins premierships
 
@happy_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327058) said:
@upthetigers said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327029) said:
@rustycage said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327021) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327018) said:
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327017) said:
When i think of the better centres back in the 80's and 90's they could all create something from a nothing play. Be that creating an overlap on the outside with a draw and pass to their wingers but more-so i loved watching centres cutting back in field looking to link with an inside runner. It generally throws the opposition defense into array.
Too often these days we see the wide spread come to a halt with the centre or winger. Yet we have 2 players in Roberts and Noffa who love to cut back across the defensive line looking for holes. But for crying out loud their teammates just stand their watching. We need our boys running lines off these two boys. We will get some joy from it, no doubt. If not a line break it will be a quick play the ball for the next play with the defensive line scuttled somewhat.
We need to implement these type of plays to break through the better teams with strong defensive structures. So come on fellas when you see Roberts cutting back in field, which he dies atleast once a game, run at a gap and Roberts will put you through with soft hands. Don't just stand back and watch, it's your job to give him options.

I was watching an old Balmain v Panthers game, the game where Maguire knocked Cartwright out. Brasher followed Roach around in support looking for the offload just about every play. Look at Papenhuyzen and Hughes, Munster same thing. We really need an overhaul of the way we play.


I get the feeling they've been told not to offload. If so, it's unfortunate as I think that's our way to winning a lot more than we don't.

Strange because they were offloading at will in the trial game against Manly

Trials aren't worth 2 competition points ....

They usually try to put into play in trials what they been working on over the off season...
 
@happy_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327340) said:
@hank37w said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327333) said:
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327017) said:
When i think of the better centres back in the 80's and 90's they could all create something from a nothing play. Be that creating an overlap on the outside with a draw and pass to their wingers but more-so i loved watching centres cutting back in field looking to link with an inside runner. It generally throws the opposition defense into array.
Too often these days we see the wide spread come to a halt with the centre or winger. Yet we have 2 players in Roberts and Noffa who love to cut back across the defensive line looking for holes. But for crying out loud their teammates just stand their watching. We need our boys running lines off these two boys. We will get some joy from it, no doubt. If not a line break it will be a quick play the ball for the next play with the defensive line scuttled somewhat.
We need to implement these type of plays to break through the better teams with strong defensive structures. So come on fellas when you see Roberts cutting back in field, which he dies atleast once a game, run at a gap and Roberts will put you through with soft hands. Don't just stand back and watch, it's your job to give him options.

Honestly cannot understand why this is not a thing.

I know that supposedly we are working on becoming some sort of a defensive unit and that supposedly that is what wins games, but are we so dumb that we can't do something about refining our attack.

You would think that under Madge our boys would be fit enough to do better than what our current line speed is in defense, our kick chase, that we would be backing up in attack and working on our off loads.

Sure, work on the defense, but a little razzle dazzle is what will really bring the fans through the gate and boost our membership numbers.

Surely it can't hurt, because the last time I looked, the team with the most points still wins the game.

Funny how the best defensive sides seem to wins premierships



@happy_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327340) said:
@hank37w said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327333) said:
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327017) said:
When i think of the better centres back in the 80's and 90's they could all create something from a nothing play. Be that creating an overlap on the outside with a draw and pass to their wingers but more-so i loved watching centres cutting back in field looking to link with an inside runner. It generally throws the opposition defense into array.
Too often these days we see the wide spread come to a halt with the centre or winger. Yet we have 2 players in Roberts and Noffa who love to cut back across the defensive line looking for holes. But for crying out loud their teammates just stand their watching. We need our boys running lines off these two boys. We will get some joy from it, no doubt. If not a line break it will be a quick play the ball for the next play with the defensive line scuttled somewhat.
We need to implement these type of plays to break through the better teams with strong defensive structures. So come on fellas when you see Roberts cutting back in field, which he dies atleast once a game, run at a gap and Roberts will put you through with soft hands. Don't just stand back and watch, it's your job to give him options.

Honestly cannot understand why this is not a thing.

I know that supposedly we are working on becoming some sort of a defensive unit and that supposedly that is what wins games, but are we so dumb that we can't do something about refining our attack.

You would think that under Madge our boys would be fit enough to do better than what our current line speed is in defense, our kick chase, that we would be backing up in attack and working on our off loads.

Sure, work on the defense, but a little razzle dazzle is what will really bring the fans through the gate and boost our membership numbers.

Surely it can't hurt, because the last time I looked, the team with the most points still wins the game.

Funny how the best defensive sides seem to wins premierships

Never said anything about not working on the defense and to get the most points and win we can also do it by restricting the number of points the other side scores, but why not put on a bit of razzle dazzle and score a heap as well.

I want to see heaps of tries scored, but mostly by the Entertaining Tigers.

I said on a another thread at some stage that I want us to win some games this year where we go on with it and put on a big score, not let the opposition back into the game, like we so often do and keep some teams to a zero score line.

Tell me I'm dreamin'.
 
@innsaneink said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327344) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327058) said:
@upthetigers said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327029) said:
@rustycage said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327021) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327018) said:
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327017) said:
When i think of the better centres back in the 80's and 90's they could all create something from a nothing play. Be that creating an overlap on the outside with a draw and pass to their wingers but more-so i loved watching centres cutting back in field looking to link with an inside runner. It generally throws the opposition defense into array.
Too often these days we see the wide spread come to a halt with the centre or winger. Yet we have 2 players in Roberts and Noffa who love to cut back across the defensive line looking for holes. But for crying out loud their teammates just stand their watching. We need our boys running lines off these two boys. We will get some joy from it, no doubt. If not a line break it will be a quick play the ball for the next play with the defensive line scuttled somewhat.
We need to implement these type of plays to break through the better teams with strong defensive structures. So come on fellas when you see Roberts cutting back in field, which he dies atleast once a game, run at a gap and Roberts will put you through with soft hands. Don't just stand back and watch, it's your job to give him options.

I was watching an old Balmain v Panthers game, the game where Maguire knocked Cartwright out. Brasher followed Roach around in support looking for the offload just about every play. Look at Papenhuyzen and Hughes, Munster same thing. We really need an overhaul of the way we play.


I get the feeling they've been told not to offload. If so, it's unfortunate as I think that's our way to winning a lot more than we don't.

Strange because they were offloading at will in the trial game against Manly

Trials aren't worth 2 competition points ....

They usually try to put into play in trials what they been working on over the off season...

True ..but when you start blowing a side out of the water and you get the taste of blood in your nostrils ...things get hectic
 
@hank37w said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327349) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327340) said:
@hank37w said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327333) said:
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327017) said:
When i think of the better centres back in the 80's and 90's they could all create something from a nothing play. Be that creating an overlap on the outside with a draw and pass to their wingers but more-so i loved watching centres cutting back in field looking to link with an inside runner. It generally throws the opposition defense into array.
Too often these days we see the wide spread come to a halt with the centre or winger. Yet we have 2 players in Roberts and Noffa who love to cut back across the defensive line looking for holes. But for crying out loud their teammates just stand their watching. We need our boys running lines off these two boys. We will get some joy from it, no doubt. If not a line break it will be a quick play the ball for the next play with the defensive line scuttled somewhat.
We need to implement these type of plays to break through the better teams with strong defensive structures. So come on fellas when you see Roberts cutting back in field, which he dies atleast once a game, run at a gap and Roberts will put you through with soft hands. Don't just stand back and watch, it's your job to give him options.

Honestly cannot understand why this is not a thing.

I know that supposedly we are working on becoming some sort of a defensive unit and that supposedly that is what wins games, but are we so dumb that we can't do something about refining our attack.

You would think that under Madge our boys would be fit enough to do better than what our current line speed is in defense, our kick chase, that we would be backing up in attack and working on our off loads.

Sure, work on the defense, but a little razzle dazzle is what will really bring the fans through the gate and boost our membership numbers.

Surely it can't hurt, because the last time I looked, the team with the most points still wins the game.

Funny how the best defensive sides seem to wins premierships



@happy_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327340) said:
@hank37w said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327333) said:
@toowoomba_tiger said in [Its your job \- run off Roberts and Noffa](/post/1327017) said:
When i think of the better centres back in the 80's and 90's they could all create something from a nothing play. Be that creating an overlap on the outside with a draw and pass to their wingers but more-so i loved watching centres cutting back in field looking to link with an inside runner. It generally throws the opposition defense into array.
Too often these days we see the wide spread come to a halt with the centre or winger. Yet we have 2 players in Roberts and Noffa who love to cut back across the defensive line looking for holes. But for crying out loud their teammates just stand their watching. We need our boys running lines off these two boys. We will get some joy from it, no doubt. If not a line break it will be a quick play the ball for the next play with the defensive line scuttled somewhat.
We need to implement these type of plays to break through the better teams with strong defensive structures. So come on fellas when you see Roberts cutting back in field, which he dies atleast once a game, run at a gap and Roberts will put you through with soft hands. Don't just stand back and watch, it's your job to give him options.

Honestly cannot understand why this is not a thing.

I know that supposedly we are working on becoming some sort of a defensive unit and that supposedly that is what wins games, but are we so dumb that we can't do something about refining our attack.

You would think that under Madge our boys would be fit enough to do better than what our current line speed is in defense, our kick chase, that we would be backing up in attack and working on our off loads.

Sure, work on the defense, but a little razzle dazzle is what will really bring the fans through the gate and boost our membership numbers.

Surely it can't hurt, because the last time I looked, the team with the most points still wins the game.

Funny how the best defensive sides seem to wins premierships

Never said anything about not working on the defense and to get the most points and win we can also do it by restricting the number of points the other side scores, but why not put on a bit of razzle dazzle and score a heap as well.

I want to see heaps of tries scored, but mostly by the Entertaining Tigers.

I said on a another thread at some stage that I want us to win some games this year where we go on with it and put on a big score, not let the opposition back into the game, like we so often do and keep some teams to a zero score line.

Tell me I'm dreamin'.

Probably because usually when we get in that mood we forget to defend and then we get into a point fest

Just remember last week was the 1st game we kept a side under 26 points in how many weeks 12....14 ....

Defence is HUGE for us atm
 
Tigers fans: JTJ, Nofo and the rest of the Tigers backline need to stand deeper, we are too flat.

Also Tigers Fans: Our backs need to be standing deeper that JTJ & Nofo to run off them.....

Ok....
 

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