JAC

[Tigercrb]

"....... Addo-Carr is attracted to South Sydney but would be unable to play his preferred fullback spot at Redfern because of good mate, Latrell Mitchell. Wests Tigers also remain a chance of signing Addo-Carr.
Barrett is a huge fan of Addo-Carr.
**All negotiations have been delayed given Addo-Carr will be in NSW camp for the next four weeks.**

OMG @mike !!

Another 28 days of:
He’s definitely coming
He’s definitely signed by the Wabbits
He’s definitely signed by the Bulldogs

With every permutation in between.
Hilarious.

I actually think it will be resolved before origin.

I'm not sure when the new financial year starts due to covid, but in years past it was Nov 1st. Melbourne won't want to pay him knowing he is leaving.

And if I was advising him, I would say lock in a long term deal before you play another game.

Imagine he does an acl in game 1? All clubs would withdraw or revise their offers and he will be stuck in Melbourne for rehab on his "unders" contract for 2021.

It is a stupid business decision to keep holding off.

 

[cochise]

"....... Addo-Carr is attracted to South Sydney but would be unable to play his preferred fullback spot at Redfern because of good mate, Latrell Mitchell. Wests Tigers also remain a chance of signing Addo-Carr.
Barrett is a huge fan of Addo-Carr.
**All negotiations have been delayed given Addo-Carr will be in NSW camp for the next four weeks.**

OMG @mike !!

Another 28 days of:
He’s definitely coming
He’s definitely signed by the Wabbits
He’s definitely signed by the Bulldogs

With every permutation in between.
Hilarious.

I actually think it will be resolved before origin.

I'm not sure when the new financial year starts due to covid, but in years past it was Nov 1st. Melbourne won't want to pay him knowing he is leaving.

And if I was advising him, I would say lock in a long term deal before you play another game.

Imagine he does an acl in game 1? All clubs would withdraw or revise their offers and he will be stuck in Melbourne for rehab on his "unders" contract for 2021.

It is a stupid business decision to keep holding off.

This is a very good point, atm he does have the Melbourne contract as protection, but I wouldn't be surprised if Melbourne release him on Saturday so he doesn't impact their 2021 cap. Like we did with Matterson last year. If that happens her would be better to have a contract signed by next Wednesday night.

 

[yeahcaz]

Reading the play guy now saying JAC being offered as trade for fergo

well that is like for like I guess


What does yeah-caz think.

About what? I missed it and cbf looking for it haha

 

[hsvjones]

"....... Addo-Carr is attracted to South Sydney but would be unable to play his preferred fullback spot at Redfern because of good mate, Latrell Mitchell. Wests Tigers also remain a chance of signing Addo-Carr.
Barrett is a huge fan of Addo-Carr.
**All negotiations have been delayed given Addo-Carr will be in NSW camp for the next four weeks.**

OMG @mike !!

Another 28 days of:
He’s definitely coming
He’s definitely signed by the Wabbits
He’s definitely signed by the Bulldogs

With every permutation in between.
Hilarious.

I actually think it will be resolved before origin.

I'm not sure when the new financial year starts due to covid, but in years past it was Nov 1st. Melbourne won't want to pay him knowing he is leaving.

And if I was advising him, I would say lock in a long term deal before you play another game.

Imagine he does an acl in game 1? All clubs would withdraw or revise their offers and he will be stuck in Melbourne for rehab on his "unders" contract for 2021.

It is a stupid business decision to keep holding off.

Makes perfect sense .... but the question is .... Will this allow Souths enough time for a medical retirement so they have the funds / roster spot available :grinning: :grinning:

 

[diedpretty]

Reading the play guy now saying JAC being offered as trade for fergo

well that is like for like I guess


What does yeah-caz think.

About what? I missed it and cbf looking for it haha

Ask your mate Jedi.

 

[Yossarian]

How I long for the days of the mystery prop... I think JAC is a very good winger and I’d love to see him back in our colours but he’s an unproven commodity at fullback and the club appears to be wisely offering what they think is good value. At the end of the day, without improvements in the halves and having Liddle or Simpkins or whoever doing a job at hooker we could have two flyers on the wings and get nowhere.

If he wants in, awesome. If not, so be it...


No elite player will come to us for “good value” another sub standard season will just make it harder. We need a marquee signing to improve our appearance to other prospective targets. In regards to overs, does anyone think we paid “good value” for Joey Leilua

The point is if we’re paying overs it should be for a half not a winger...


With Brooks signed til 2023 I doubt we’d even be contemplating a half. We used to say “next year” we’ve now become so poor, it’s “in 2 years from now”. You know how poorly you have to manage a Clubs roster to miss the 8 nine years in a row?. We need to speed up the process, were a laughing stock.

Someone needs to play 5/8 unless AD really steps up.

 

[cochise]

How I long for the days of the mystery prop... I think JAC is a very good winger and I’d love to see him back in our colours but he’s an unproven commodity at fullback and the club appears to be wisely offering what they think is good value. At the end of the day, without improvements in the halves and having Liddle or Simpkins or whoever doing a job at hooker we could have two flyers on the wings and get nowhere.

If he wants in, awesome. If not, so be it...


No elite player will come to us for “good value” another sub standard season will just make it harder. We need a marquee signing to improve our appearance to other prospective targets. In regards to overs, does anyone think we paid “good value” for Joey Leilua

The point is if we’re paying overs it should be for a half not a winger...


With Brooks signed til 2023 I doubt we’d even be contemplating a half. We used to say “next year” we’ve now become so poor, it’s “in 2 years from now”. You know how poorly you have to manage a Clubs roster to miss the 8 nine years in a row?. We need to speed up the process, were a laughing stock.

Someone needs to play 5/8 unless AD really steps up.

I think the plan at this point in time would be Reynolds, but I'd like to see AD given a decent crack during trials.

 

[Yossarian]

How I long for the days of the mystery prop... I think JAC is a very good winger and I’d love to see him back in our colours but he’s an unproven commodity at fullback and the club appears to be wisely offering what they think is good value. At the end of the day, without improvements in the halves and having Liddle or Simpkins or whoever doing a job at hooker we could have two flyers on the wings and get nowhere.

If he wants in, awesome. If not, so be it...


No elite player will come to us for “good value” another sub standard season will just make it harder. We need a marquee signing to improve our appearance to other prospective targets. In regards to overs, does anyone think we paid “good value” for Joey Leilua

The point is if we’re paying overs it should be for a half not a winger...


With Brooks signed til 2023 I doubt we’d even be contemplating a half. We used to say “next year” we’ve now become so poor, it’s “in 2 years from now”. You know how poorly you have to manage a Clubs roster to miss the 8 nine years in a row?. We need to speed up the process, were a laughing stock.

Someone needs to play 5/8 unless AD really steps up.

I think the plan at this point in time would be Reynolds, but I'd like to see AD given a decent crack during trials.

You assume Reynolds is actually fit to play more than 4 games a season...

 

[cochise]

How I long for the days of the mystery prop... I think JAC is a very good winger and I’d love to see him back in our colours but he’s an unproven commodity at fullback and the club appears to be wisely offering what they think is good value. At the end of the day, without improvements in the halves and having Liddle or Simpkins or whoever doing a job at hooker we could have two flyers on the wings and get nowhere.

If he wants in, awesome. If not, so be it...


No elite player will come to us for “good value” another sub standard season will just make it harder. We need a marquee signing to improve our appearance to other prospective targets. In regards to overs, does anyone think we paid “good value” for Joey Leilua

The point is if we’re paying overs it should be for a half not a winger...


With Brooks signed til 2023 I doubt we’d even be contemplating a half. We used to say “next year” we’ve now become so poor, it’s “in 2 years from now”. You know how poorly you have to manage a Clubs roster to miss the 8 nine years in a row?. We need to speed up the process, were a laughing stock.

Someone needs to play 5/8 unless AD really steps up.

I think the plan at this point in time would be Reynolds, but I'd like to see AD given a decent crack during trials.

You assume Reynolds is actually fit to play more than 4 games a season...

I'm not assuming anything, I think that is what the clubs plan would be.

 

[Yossarian]

How I long for the days of the mystery prop... I think JAC is a very good winger and I’d love to see him back in our colours but he’s an unproven commodity at fullback and the club appears to be wisely offering what they think is good value. At the end of the day, without improvements in the halves and having Liddle or Simpkins or whoever doing a job at hooker we could have two flyers on the wings and get nowhere.

If he wants in, awesome. If not, so be it...


No elite player will come to us for “good value” another sub standard season will just make it harder. We need a marquee signing to improve our appearance to other prospective targets. In regards to overs, does anyone think we paid “good value” for Joey Leilua

The point is if we’re paying overs it should be for a half not a winger...


With Brooks signed til 2023 I doubt we’d even be contemplating a half. We used to say “next year” we’ve now become so poor, it’s “in 2 years from now”. You know how poorly you have to manage a Clubs roster to miss the 8 nine years in a row?. We need to speed up the process, were a laughing stock.

Someone needs to play 5/8 unless AD really steps up.

I think the plan at this point in time would be Reynolds, but I'd like to see AD given a decent crack during trials.

You assume Reynolds is actually fit to play more than 4 games a season...

I'm not assuming anything, I think that is what the clubs plan would be.

To paraphrase Kang from the Simpsons “Foolish, foolish club!”

Anyway Reynolds is gone after next year so the fact remains it’s AD or someone better longer term.

 

[TonyTiger]

Putting a deadline on a contract offer is a sure fire way to make sure the player DOESNT sign the deal. It has never worked in the past we can’t do it now, there’s no rush here we don’t have to demand he sign straight away or the offer is pulled

Understand what you are saying but can you explain why not..

We are just been a doormat for the player and his agent. They sit there and say to themselves look the Tigers are here as our back up plan if all else falls through.. Lets push this out for a month or 2 so your preferred teams have the time to move pieces around and increase there offer. In this time we could miss out on other opportunities they may pop up and we are certainly not in a position to wait for left overs. I can also see it could backfire and he says well i'm out then but hey at least we have understanding of where we are at..
There is Pro's and Con's to both but can you imagine this forum in 5 weeks time when he decides to go to South for 400k on the wing...

Side note - It is also a must about how you do this as you don't go in and demand that a decision is made by this date , it needs to be sold in a professional manner so they understand why and that other decisions are waiting in the back ground that need to be made. Make him feel wanted and sell it to him..

I know what you are saying, but you just keep talking to their players and when someone says yes you remove the other offers. Deadline mean almost as much as contracts

Agree and would hope our recruitment team are on this regardless of JAC decision.

I have confidence in our recruitment team to not make the mistakes of the past.

Who is your source ?

Me lol

Gotta admit feels like the JAC contract is playing out better than LM, we were wrapping him all day every day, chasing him to Taree, kissing his boots. Paying overs. Seems like the team have played JAC better, still hoping for a result.

Let’s face it, unfortunately the writing is on the wall.
Souths are unloading Joseph Suaalii And James Roberts because they have JAC In their grasp, just need to free-up the cap space - DITTO with the Latrell Mitchell saga over last summer.
Souths are able to push Doughe and now Roberts out the door when they find someone better, Roosters are able to push Flanagan and now possibly Angus Chrighton when they want to move Joseph Suaalii into their squad.
All these players are/we’re still under contract.
Tigers have an under performing Dad’s Army component but we are unable to move any of them on - only Matterson where we attempted a Storm-like player swap but relented and handed him over without a trade or compensation.... zero negotiation skills from the Tigers, not as if we had to let the soon leave!
Now we want a superstar in JAC from the Storm but they are playing hard ball for a like-for-like trade. Which club seems more professional?

 

[BAGNF05]

Putting a deadline on a contract offer is a sure fire way to make sure the player DOESNT sign the deal. It has never worked in the past we can’t do it now, there’s no rush here we don’t have to demand he sign straight away or the offer is pulled

Understand what you are saying but can you explain why not..

We are just been a doormat for the player and his agent. They sit there and say to themselves look the Tigers are here as our back up plan if all else falls through.. Lets push this out for a month or 2 so your preferred teams have the time to move pieces around and increase there offer. In this time we could miss out on other opportunities they may pop up and we are certainly not in a position to wait for left overs. I can also see it could backfire and he says well i'm out then but hey at least we have understanding of where we are at..
There is Pro's and Con's to both but can you imagine this forum in 5 weeks time when he decides to go to South for 400k on the wing...

Side note - It is also a must about how you do this as you don't go in and demand that a decision is made by this date , it needs to be sold in a professional manner so they understand why and that other decisions are waiting in the back ground that need to be made. Make him feel wanted and sell it to him..

I know what you are saying, but you just keep talking to their players and when someone says yes you remove the other offers. Deadline mean almost as much as contracts

Agree and would hope our recruitment team are on this regardless of JAC decision.

I have confidence in our recruitment team to not make the mistakes of the past.

Who is your source ?

Me lol

Gotta admit feels like the JAC contract is playing out better than LM, we were wrapping him all day every day, chasing him to Taree, kissing his boots. Paying overs. Seems like the team have played JAC better, still hoping for a result.

Let’s face it, unfortunately the writing is on the wall.
Souths are unloading Joseph Suaalii And James Roberts because they have JAC In their grasp, just need to free-up the cap space - DITTO with the Latrell Mitchell saga over last summer.
Souths are able to push Doughe and now Roberts out the door when they find someone better, Roosters are able to push Flanagan and now possibly Angus Chrighton when they want to move Joseph Suaalii into their squad.
All these players are/we’re still under contract.
Tigers have an under performing Dad’s Army component but we are unable to move any of them on - only Matterson where we attempted a Storm-like player swap but relented and handed him over without a trade or compensation.... zero negotiation skills from the Tigers, not as if we had to let the soon leave!
Now we want a superstar in JAC from the Storm but they are playing hard ball for a like-for-like trade. Which club seems more professional?

Dat you Buzz?

 

[mike]

JAC watch: Day 68

 

[pawsandclaws1]

What is the latest on Saab?

 

[tiger05premier]

NRL 2020: Bulldogs target Isaah Yeo, Stephen Crichton after Kyle Flanagan signing
It’s no secret Matt Burton is a key target but new Bulldogs coach Trent Barrett has two even bigger Penrith scalps in his sights. Canterbury’s growing hit list here.
Matt Burton is already a key target, and now Canterbury has drawn up a Panthers priority list which includes NSW State of Origin stars Stephen Crichton and Isaah Yeo.
It comes after the Bulldogs signed Penrith assistant Trent Barrett as head coach and aggressive Panthers forward Jack Hetherington.
While Burton is Canterbury’s main choice, the Bulldogs are closely monitoring Crichton and Yeo, who come off contract after next season.
The developments come as Canterbury confirmed the signing of Sydney Roosters halfback Kyle Flanagan to a three-year deal. A Burton-Flanagan halves combination could -potentially lift Canterbury into a top eight contender.
All NRL players coming off contract after next season can be officially approached from this Sunday.
Should they sign Burton, Canterbury hope he may arrive for next season although there is no indication Penrith would offer an early release.
The Daily Telegraph has also learnt Melbourne, North Queensland and Wests Tigers have an interest in Burton. Barrett was at Canterbury’s Belmore headquarters on Monday but after a long year at Penrith has taken a week’s holiday. He has a strong relationship with all Panthers players. Penrith has the most talent of any NRL club coming off contract after next year, including Burton, Crichton, Yeo, Jarome Luai, Kurt Capewell, Mitch Kenny, Spencer Leniu, Brent Naden, Josh Mansour and Zane Tetevano.
Yeo and Crichton could command salaries of between $500,000 and $600,000 a season. The Panthers are desperately hoping to retain all their grand finals stars.
Crichton’s brother, Bulldogs winger, Christian, comes off contract at Belmore after next season. While wanting to be strategic, Canterbury will have some cash to splash for 2022. Other NRL star players coming off after next season include Kotoni Staggs, Dale Finucane, Jahrome Hughes, Mitchell Pearce, Nathan Brown, Blake Ferguson, Maika Sivo, Jarome Luai, Dane Gagai, Adam Reynolds, Junior Tatola, Cameron McInnes, Corey Norman, Angus Crichton, James Tedesco, Daniel Tupou and David Nofoaluma,
They can receive offers from midnight on Sunday. Tedesco is shortly expected to announce a new five-year, $6m deal at Bondi.
Canterbury remains hopeful but not overly confident of signing Melbourne and NSW star Josh Addo-Carr. The club is insisting they have not yet made him an offer.
Addo-Carr is attracted to South Sydney but would be unable to play his preferred fullback spot at Redfern because of good mate, Latrell Mitchell. Wests Tigers also remain a chance of signing Addo-Carr.
Barrett is a huge fan of Addo-Carr. All negotiations have been delayed given Addo-Carr will be in NSW camp for the next four weeks.
Canterbury confirmed 22-year-old Flanagan’s signing on Tuesday ¬morning.
“Kyle is a quality all-round footballer, who will bring game management and a strong kicking component to our halves, as well as having the potential to grow as a player under Trent Barrett and his coaching staff,” said Bulldogs CEO, Andrew Hill.
“We are putting together a squad that has the right qualities and everyone is excited about getting back together for the pre-season in what we believe is a new beginning for the club. We can’t wait for Kyle to be a part of that.”

What happened to Barrett not raiding the Panthers talent? That was short lived. He will be on the Panthers most hated list.

Let's just hope he is successful

I would love to see more suffering for IC before the year is done

 

[tiger05premier]

JAC watch: Day 68

Can you count to 100 or do you need someone to take over for you?

 

[JC99]

JAC wasn’t farewelled at Melbourne’s awards night

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Would love POM to give an update on Grant for 2022 ?


What is it with you and Harry Grant - do you have his picture plastered all over your bedroom wall.

He is better than what we have namely Jacob Liddle...
Still think Liddle will not be resigned and Grant is still a chance on a long term dral here from 2022

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

How I long for the days of the mystery prop... I think JAC is a very good winger and I’d love to see him back in our colours but he’s an unproven commodity at fullback and the club appears to be wisely offering what they think is good value. At the end of the day, without improvements in the halves and having Liddle or Simpkins or whoever doing a job at hooker we could have two flyers on the wings and get nowhere.

If he wants in, awesome. If not, so be it...


If he doesn't come here i hope he goes to Canterbury so everyone can see that he is not the saviour without guys like Smith, Munster, Paps etc creating things inside. Here and at Canterbury he is going to be the one everyone is expecting to be creating things to happen - and its not going to happen.

its ok diedpretty we have Liddle so all is good

 

[mike]

JAC watch: Day 68

Can you count to 100 or do you need someone to take over for you?

I think I can manage. I’ll let you know if I falter.