TillLindemann
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This is definitely the first time anybody has ever said this to me.
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I'm sure they do ! Sheens, for all his knockers, has coached 4 teams to premiership wins, and he has been involved in the game for over 30yrs at the highest levels, Benji was a great half, captained NZ to wins over Australia, played in a premiership winning side, and recently played under some of the best coaches, with Souths, Broncos and WestsTigers. Farah was one of the best 9's to ever play the game. Furner is one of the smartest men in the game,and assistant coach. These guys would have looked at every minute of every game played this year, in great detail. They would be well aware of where our weaknesses are, and which players need to be replaced.
Some people can't see the forest, for the trees, when players don't have their contracts extended, it means the club is not confident in their ability. They have next year to prove themselves.
ElleryHanley
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I don't want to detract anything from Brooksy winning the Dally M half back award...
But, let's be realistic, he beat Mitchell Pearce by a point...and Pearce missed something like ten games.
IOW Pearce was clearly the best halfback of the year that season and Luke got it by default almost.
That is NOT to detract from Luke...it is just that so many people here keep saying "how can he go from the best half back one year, to his current form'.
He was never 'the best' half back.
But, let's be realistic, he beat Mitchell Pearce by a point...and Pearce missed something like ten games.
IOW Pearce was clearly the best halfback of the year that season and Luke got it by default almost.
That is NOT to detract from Luke...it is just that so many people here keep saying "how can he go from the best half back one year, to his current form'.
He was never 'the best' half back.
ancient_magpie
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Hastings was out for 8 games half his fault .I think we lost almost all of them
Odessa
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I think Furner is a big big plus he was at Souths when they had Sibs and the back line on fire
earl
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In all seriousness it's professional footy and the coaching staff and players have to prove themselves. All of that experience doesn't mean they've made the right decisions or that the team will perform next season.
I hope they do. I hope Brooksy has a great season. I hope the coaching staff get the team firing.
I still think our spine is poor and we are dependent on Brooks, AD, Laurie and/or Staines playing significantly better than they have in the past for us to be successful.
@Jedi_Tiger will arrive any minute now to dispute this 😉
twentyforty
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I cant disagree sleevey, but how do we explain that many players who leave WT become champions? When we got 72 points put on us by Roosters this year, 3 of their better players were Lodge, Gildart and Tedesco.
Gildart got on the field but to say he was one of the roosters best is a complete fabrication and totaly destroys the rest of your arguement
Well Lodge got in big trouble at the Tigers before his US escapades'.
Teddy smartly left, and i don't blame him, the club was a sewer at the time.
Gildarts not a champion, but just looks better in a classy side.
We are where we are because the club was run by idiots.
Bellamy succeeded at Storm because they were a very professionally managed club, and the support staff and coaches were the best. It appears that Sheens has been given sole control now, and it's evident with the coaching staff, and many assistants for training and development that we have at long last starting to get professional. Teddy ,Woods, and Moses leaving ,left a huge hole, don't blame them ,blame the club management at the time. That's just my opinion, others will disagree.
earl
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Yep. I disagree about everything apart from Gildart being an average player and Lodge being bad news.
Tedesco being smart is hilarious. Have you heard him talk. He took the easy path. That isn't being smart in my books. It's soft.
twentyforty
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Ok, Gildart may not be everyone’s image of a champ but he is an international and to my point he did look much better in a Roosters side. I think he stated publicly he wanted to stay at Roosters?
I don’t get this idea of the chair saying Sheens has total control. This is bullshit, and as we all know organisations do not randomly flip responsibilities and tasks every year or so. How can they possibly expect better outcomes? I think what the board is actually saying is Sheens has our full support until he doesn’t have it.
bythebeardofzeus
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He beat every other halfback that year as well, not just Pearce who missed 10 games. I’m just as frustrated with LB as most on here but nobody can dispute him winning that award. With a much stronger pack in ‘23 I just hope he can get it together. We don’t have any other options!
twentyforty
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Ok, you’re saying Mitch Pearce is a better half than Brooks and you wouldn’t start an argument with that statement. Maybe we should have listened to Mitch’s dad when he tried so hard to get him a run at WT?
Yep -.he who was responsible for all football decisions last year.
gallagher
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Easy decision as well as smart
Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan
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The year he won that award we actually had a somewhat functional forward pack. Hoping he can perform behind 2023's pack.
earl
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I'm not like that. I can't respect it.
clontarfkid
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Much as Id like to support Gildart..he(and his family whom we flew out for the first game) seemed decent and articulate ..but he was simply terrible for WTs tbh.
Defence was non existent...awareness of touchline negligible...he just didnt work out for us.
And the few minutes he played with the Roosters didnt seem a lot different.
IMO hes just too small for the rigours of the NRL,and wont make it at the Dolphins either unless he has one of Bellamys "magic milkshakes" that puts on 10kgs immediatey!
Off season is time to do it..
Defence was non existent...awareness of touchline negligible...he just didnt work out for us.
And the few minutes he played with the Roosters didnt seem a lot different.
IMO hes just too small for the rigours of the NRL,and wont make it at the Dolphins either unless he has one of Bellamys "magic milkshakes" that puts on 10kgs immediatey!
Off season is time to do it..
Mighty Mouse
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5 mins on the clock, you’re in the opposition 20 and you’re down by 2. Who do you want at halfback - brooks or Hastings? Obviously Hastings every day of the week. That’s the bottom line. Brooks wouldn’t have a clue what to do.
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