Jarryd Hayne

[cochise]

I saw Jaryd at a grocery store in Tamworth a few years ago. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

You can't make that up.

I think you can. Its a repeated story with various footballers names put to it. Including Luke Brooks on here at one point.

 

[BAGNF05]

I feel this is a tragic story with a few factors contributing. No doubt Jarryd is lacking some basic foundational values, probably due to growing up always being told he is a superstar. When interviewed throughout his career I always got the feeling he lacked intelligence.

Add to that the binge drinking culture that has always existed in rugby league and the fact that he was left to travel to Sydney alone after a 2 day bucks party (where were his ‘friends’?). Anyone who has ever been on the booze for two days makes terrible decisions.

I also think its ridiculous the access that the general public has to players these days through social media, if I was managing one of them it would be in the contract that they switch off that avenue for the general public to access them.

Clearly this young lady at one time was interested in Hayne romantically, (in no way does that excuse his behaviour) but she came across him in the most horrendous set of circumstances.

He will pay for it as he should.

 

[The-moP]

rue how this is not the first time and a certain club covered his behavior for years, he deserves to be locked up. This sounds like a pattern of behavior that has been going on for years. If what has been said by journalists here in nz are true the eels club should be ashamed of themselves

Didn't he have a civil suit against him in the US as well when playing for the 49'ers? Has a very poor history when it comes to women....

A lot say the US case was settled out of court .. but now that he has been found guilty here in Aust .. there is another case of sexual assault against him gaining momentum in the US .. not sure if it is the same case that was so called settled previously.

 

[cochise]

rue how this is not the first time and a certain club covered his behavior for years, he deserves to be locked up. This sounds like a pattern of behavior that has been going on for years. If what has been said by journalists here in nz are true the eels club should be ashamed of themselves

Didn't he have a civil suit against him in the US as well when playing for the 49'ers? Has a very poor history when it comes to women....

A lot say the US case was settled out of court .. but now that he has been found guilty here in Aust .. there is another case of sexual assault against him gaining momentum in the US .. not sure if it is the same case that was so called settled previously.

He definitely got out of the US very quickly. Announced he was going to play Rugby 7s at the Olympics for Fiji without even checking if they had a position for him.

 

[Papacito]

He's a few years younger than me and due to various circumstances. I saw him play footy since about the age of 15 or 16.

Around the same time I heard he was a freak in athletics and took out national titles without ever having a coach or proper training.

The first time I saw him play, there was never any doubt in my mind he would be a great player.

He was a big kid and scored four or five tries without breaking a sweat. He had a truckload of confidence (most would say arrogance) which told you he wouldn't be awed at the top level.

I never totally liked the guy but enjoyed seeing him do well over the years. Some of the stuff that he did single-handedly for Parramatta and NSW was like watching that 15 year old kid all over again.

It really blew my mind to then see him play for the 49ers and I was disappointed he didn't make it.

After that, he never seemed to me like the same person when he came back to play for the Titans. He'd lost the spark he had before.

Personally, the stuff that came out of the recent court case is absolutely sickening and I hope they throw the book at the bloke. For mine, this will now always define him rather than his on-field achievements.

I also hope the NRL will take a step back and think about the culture of the game, as I think there's a chance this case is symptomatic of deeper problems in the game.

 

[tony soprano]

He's a few years younger than me and due to various circumstances. I saw him play footy since about the age of 15 or 16.

Around the same time I heard he was a freak in athletics and took out national titles without ever having a coach or proper training.

The first time I saw him play, there was never any doubt in my mind he would be a great player.

He was a big kid and scored four or five tries without breaking a sweat. He had a truckload of confidence (most would say arrogance) which told you he wouldn't be awed at the top level.

I never totally liked the guy but enjoyed seeing him do well over the years. Some of the stuff that he did single-handedly for Parramatta and NSW was like watching that 15 year old kid all over again.

It really blew my mind to then see him play for the 49ers and I was disappointed he didn't make it.

After that, he never seemed to me like the same person when he came back to play for the Titans. He'd lost the spark he had before.

Personally, the stuff that came out of the recent court case is absolutely sickening and I hope they throw the book at the bloke. For mine, this will now always define him rather than his on-field achievements.

I also hope the NRL will take a step back and think about the culture of the game, as I think there's a chance this case is symptomatic of deeper problems in the game.

Well said mate

 

[sleeve]

He's a few years younger than me and due to various circumstances. I saw him play footy since about the age of 15 or 16.

Around the same time I heard he was a freak in athletics and took out national titles without ever having a coach or proper training.

The first time I saw him play, there was never any doubt in my mind he would be a great player.

He was a big kid and scored four or five tries without breaking a sweat. He had a truckload of confidence (most would say arrogance) which told you he wouldn't be awed at the top level.

I never totally liked the guy but enjoyed seeing him do well over the years. Some of the stuff that he did single-handedly for Parramatta and NSW was like watching that 15 year old kid all over again.

It really blew my mind to then see him play for the 49ers and I was disappointed he didn't make it.

After that, he never seemed to me like the same person when he came back to play for the Titans. He'd lost the spark he had before.

Personally, the stuff that came out of the recent court case is absolutely sickening and I hope they throw the book at the bloke. For mine, this will now always define him rather than his on-field achievements.

I also hope the NRL will take a step back and think about the culture of the game, as I think there's a chance this case is symptomatic of deeper problems in the game.

Not just the game, but society in general i think. Violence on the screen, music, we have become de- sencorsised .

 

[cochise]

He's a few years younger than me and due to various circumstances. I saw him play footy since about the age of 15 or 16.

Around the same time I heard he was a freak in athletics and took out national titles without ever having a coach or proper training.

The first time I saw him play, there was never any doubt in my mind he would be a great player.

He was a big kid and scored four or five tries without breaking a sweat. He had a truckload of confidence (most would say arrogance) which told you he wouldn't be awed at the top level.

I never totally liked the guy but enjoyed seeing him do well over the years. Some of the stuff that he did single-handedly for Parramatta and NSW was like watching that 15 year old kid all over again.

It really blew my mind to then see him play for the 49ers and I was disappointed he didn't make it.

After that, he never seemed to me like the same person when he came back to play for the Titans. He'd lost the spark he had before.

Personally, the stuff that came out of the recent court case is absolutely sickening and I hope they throw the book at the bloke. For mine, this will now always define him rather than his on-field achievements.

I also hope the NRL will take a step back and think about the culture of the game, as I think there's a chance this case is symptomatic of deeper problems in the game.

Not just the game, but society in general i think. Violence on the screen, music, we have become de- sencorsised .

I believe that is a bit of a furphy, society is much less violent than it was even 40 years ago.

 

[rustycage]

He's a few years younger than me and due to various circumstances. I saw him play footy since about the age of 15 or 16.

Around the same time I heard he was a freak in athletics and took out national titles without ever having a coach or proper training.

The first time I saw him play, there was never any doubt in my mind he would be a great player.

He was a big kid and scored four or five tries without breaking a sweat. He had a truckload of confidence (most would say arrogance) which told you he wouldn't be awed at the top level.

I never totally liked the guy but enjoyed seeing him do well over the years. Some of the stuff that he did single-handedly for Parramatta and NSW was like watching that 15 year old kid all over again.

It really blew my mind to then see him play for the 49ers and I was disappointed he didn't make it.

After that, he never seemed to me like the same person when he came back to play for the Titans. He'd lost the spark he had before.

Personally, the stuff that came out of the recent court case is absolutely sickening and I hope they throw the book at the bloke. For mine, this will now always define him rather than his on-field achievements.

I also hope the NRL will take a step back and think about the culture of the game, as I think there's a chance this case is symptomatic of deeper problems in the game.

Not just the game, but society in general i think. Violence on the screen, music, we have become de- sencorsised .

I believe that is a bit of a furphy, society is much less violent than it was even 40 years ago.

Not sure how you'd measure that, but I think personally that if anything, the level of violence is more intense. For instance, there was no stomping on heads of the already unconscious that I recall. There might have been a lot of bar brawls but they'd end without ambulances in the main. Nowadays it seems there's knives god knows what else brought to the party - and often an ambulance involved and then even those guys and girls are in the line of fire.
The place has gone mad. I can't remember ever hearing of a bloke beating up his missus, or glassing her. Now, it seems just another day in the news cycle that some knob has taken to a woman. Thats not to deny it used to happen, but surely it was nowhere near as prevalent as today.

 

[cochise]

He's a few years younger than me and due to various circumstances. I saw him play footy since about the age of 15 or 16.

Around the same time I heard he was a freak in athletics and took out national titles without ever having a coach or proper training.

The first time I saw him play, there was never any doubt in my mind he would be a great player.

He was a big kid and scored four or five tries without breaking a sweat. He had a truckload of confidence (most would say arrogance) which told you he wouldn't be awed at the top level.

I never totally liked the guy but enjoyed seeing him do well over the years. Some of the stuff that he did single-handedly for Parramatta and NSW was like watching that 15 year old kid all over again.

It really blew my mind to then see him play for the 49ers and I was disappointed he didn't make it.

After that, he never seemed to me like the same person when he came back to play for the Titans. He'd lost the spark he had before.

Personally, the stuff that came out of the recent court case is absolutely sickening and I hope they throw the book at the bloke. For mine, this will now always define him rather than his on-field achievements.

I also hope the NRL will take a step back and think about the culture of the game, as I think there's a chance this case is symptomatic of deeper problems in the game.

Not just the game, but society in general i think. Violence on the screen, music, we have become de- sencorsised .

I believe that is a bit of a furphy, society is much less violent than it was even 40 years ago.


Not sure how you'd measure that, but I think personally that if anything, the level of violence is more intense. For instance, there was no stomping on heads of the already unconscious that I recall. There might have been a lot of bar brawls but they'd end without ambulances in the main. Nowadays it seems there's knives god knows what else brought to the party - and often an ambulance involved and then even those guys and girls are in the line of fire.
The place has gone mad.

Crime rates, including violent crimes, have dropped significantly over the last 20 years.

 

[rustycage]

He's a few years younger than me and due to various circumstances. I saw him play footy since about the age of 15 or 16.

Around the same time I heard he was a freak in athletics and took out national titles without ever having a coach or proper training.

The first time I saw him play, there was never any doubt in my mind he would be a great player.

He was a big kid and scored four or five tries without breaking a sweat. He had a truckload of confidence (most would say arrogance) which told you he wouldn't be awed at the top level.

I never totally liked the guy but enjoyed seeing him do well over the years. Some of the stuff that he did single-handedly for Parramatta and NSW was like watching that 15 year old kid all over again.

It really blew my mind to then see him play for the 49ers and I was disappointed he didn't make it.

After that, he never seemed to me like the same person when he came back to play for the Titans. He'd lost the spark he had before.

Personally, the stuff that came out of the recent court case is absolutely sickening and I hope they throw the book at the bloke. For mine, this will now always define him rather than his on-field achievements.

I also hope the NRL will take a step back and think about the culture of the game, as I think there's a chance this case is symptomatic of deeper problems in the game.

Not just the game, but society in general i think. Violence on the screen, music, we have become de- sencorsised .

I believe that is a bit of a furphy, society is much less violent than it was even 40 years ago.


Not sure how you'd measure that, but I think personally that if anything, the level of violence is more intense. For instance, there was no stomping on heads of the already unconscious that I recall. There might have been a lot of bar brawls but they'd end without ambulances in the main. Nowadays it seems there's knives god knows what else brought to the party - and often an ambulance involved and then even those guys and girls are in the line of fire.
The place has gone mad.

Crime rates, including violent crimes, have dropped significantly over the last 20 years.

Really? that surprises me.

 

[cochise]

He's a few years younger than me and due to various circumstances. I saw him play footy since about the age of 15 or 16.

Around the same time I heard he was a freak in athletics and took out national titles without ever having a coach or proper training.

The first time I saw him play, there was never any doubt in my mind he would be a great player.

He was a big kid and scored four or five tries without breaking a sweat. He had a truckload of confidence (most would say arrogance) which told you he wouldn't be awed at the top level.

I never totally liked the guy but enjoyed seeing him do well over the years. Some of the stuff that he did single-handedly for Parramatta and NSW was like watching that 15 year old kid all over again.

It really blew my mind to then see him play for the 49ers and I was disappointed he didn't make it.

After that, he never seemed to me like the same person when he came back to play for the Titans. He'd lost the spark he had before.

Personally, the stuff that came out of the recent court case is absolutely sickening and I hope they throw the book at the bloke. For mine, this will now always define him rather than his on-field achievements.

I also hope the NRL will take a step back and think about the culture of the game, as I think there's a chance this case is symptomatic of deeper problems in the game.

Not just the game, but society in general i think. Violence on the screen, music, we have become de- sencorsised .

I believe that is a bit of a furphy, society is much less violent than it was even 40 years ago.


Not sure how you'd measure that, but I think personally that if anything, the level of violence is more intense. For instance, there was no stomping on heads of the already unconscious that I recall. There might have been a lot of bar brawls but they'd end without ambulances in the main. Nowadays it seems there's knives god knows what else brought to the party - and often an ambulance involved and then even those guys and girls are in the line of fire.
The place has gone mad.

Crime rates, including violent crimes, have dropped significantly over the last 20 years.


Really? that surprises me.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/it-s-time-to-salute-the-great-crime-decline-20210202-p56ynw.html

 

[cochise]

He's a few years younger than me and due to various circumstances. I saw him play footy since about the age of 15 or 16.

Around the same time I heard he was a freak in athletics and took out national titles without ever having a coach or proper training.

The first time I saw him play, there was never any doubt in my mind he would be a great player.

He was a big kid and scored four or five tries without breaking a sweat. He had a truckload of confidence (most would say arrogance) which told you he wouldn't be awed at the top level.

I never totally liked the guy but enjoyed seeing him do well over the years. Some of the stuff that he did single-handedly for Parramatta and NSW was like watching that 15 year old kid all over again.

It really blew my mind to then see him play for the 49ers and I was disappointed he didn't make it.

After that, he never seemed to me like the same person when he came back to play for the Titans. He'd lost the spark he had before.

Personally, the stuff that came out of the recent court case is absolutely sickening and I hope they throw the book at the bloke. For mine, this will now always define him rather than his on-field achievements.

I also hope the NRL will take a step back and think about the culture of the game, as I think there's a chance this case is symptomatic of deeper problems in the game.

Not just the game, but society in general i think. Violence on the screen, music, we have become de- sencorsised .

I believe that is a bit of a furphy, society is much less violent than it was even 40 years ago.


Not sure how you'd measure that, but I think personally that if anything, the level of violence is more intense. For instance, there was no stomping on heads of the already unconscious that I recall. There might have been a lot of bar brawls but they'd end without ambulances in the main. Nowadays it seems there's knives god knows what else brought to the party - and often an ambulance involved and then even those guys and girls are in the line of fire.
The place has gone mad.

Crime rates, including violent crimes, have dropped significantly over the last 20 years.


Really? that surprises me.

The only violent crimes that have continued to rise since 2008 are incidents of sexual assault, but that could be due to the fact more people are reporting such crimes in a society that still has issues with dealing with these crimes, but has improved significantly in the last 30 years.

 

[rustycage]

He's a few years younger than me and due to various circumstances. I saw him play footy since about the age of 15 or 16.

Around the same time I heard he was a freak in athletics and took out national titles without ever having a coach or proper training.

The first time I saw him play, there was never any doubt in my mind he would be a great player.

He was a big kid and scored four or five tries without breaking a sweat. He had a truckload of confidence (most would say arrogance) which told you he wouldn't be awed at the top level.

I never totally liked the guy but enjoyed seeing him do well over the years. Some of the stuff that he did single-handedly for Parramatta and NSW was like watching that 15 year old kid all over again.

It really blew my mind to then see him play for the 49ers and I was disappointed he didn't make it.

After that, he never seemed to me like the same person when he came back to play for the Titans. He'd lost the spark he had before.

Personally, the stuff that came out of the recent court case is absolutely sickening and I hope they throw the book at the bloke. For mine, this will now always define him rather than his on-field achievements.

I also hope the NRL will take a step back and think about the culture of the game, as I think there's a chance this case is symptomatic of deeper problems in the game.

Not just the game, but society in general i think. Violence on the screen, music, we have become de- sencorsised .

I believe that is a bit of a furphy, society is much less violent than it was even 40 years ago.


Not sure how you'd measure that, but I think personally that if anything, the level of violence is more intense. For instance, there was no stomping on heads of the already unconscious that I recall. There might have been a lot of bar brawls but they'd end without ambulances in the main. Nowadays it seems there's knives god knows what else brought to the party - and often an ambulance involved and then even those guys and girls are in the line of fire.
The place has gone mad.

Crime rates, including violent crimes, have dropped significantly over the last 20 years.


Really? that surprises me.

The only violent crimes that have continued to rise since 2008 are incidents of sexual assault, but that could be due to the fact more people are reporting such crimes in a society that still has issues with dealing with these crimes, but has improved significantly in the last 30 years.

Interesting column. Im sure there's plenty of ways to decipher whats going on. It'll take my little brain a while to absorb those stats. Quite often others can show alternate figures that are equally impressive that indicate a different outcome I suppose. It's interesting that he suggests that the booze culture has taken a dive and that could be one reason to support less violence for sure.

 

[cochise]

He's a few years younger than me and due to various circumstances. I saw him play footy since about the age of 15 or 16.

Around the same time I heard he was a freak in athletics and took out national titles without ever having a coach or proper training.

The first time I saw him play, there was never any doubt in my mind he would be a great player.

He was a big kid and scored four or five tries without breaking a sweat. He had a truckload of confidence (most would say arrogance) which told you he wouldn't be awed at the top level.

I never totally liked the guy but enjoyed seeing him do well over the years. Some of the stuff that he did single-handedly for Parramatta and NSW was like watching that 15 year old kid all over again.

It really blew my mind to then see him play for the 49ers and I was disappointed he didn't make it.

After that, he never seemed to me like the same person when he came back to play for the Titans. He'd lost the spark he had before.

Personally, the stuff that came out of the recent court case is absolutely sickening and I hope they throw the book at the bloke. For mine, this will now always define him rather than his on-field achievements.

I also hope the NRL will take a step back and think about the culture of the game, as I think there's a chance this case is symptomatic of deeper problems in the game.

Not just the game, but society in general i think. Violence on the screen, music, we have become de- sencorsised .

I believe that is a bit of a furphy, society is much less violent than it was even 40 years ago.


Not sure how you'd measure that, but I think personally that if anything, the level of violence is more intense. For instance, there was no stomping on heads of the already unconscious that I recall. There might have been a lot of bar brawls but they'd end without ambulances in the main. Nowadays it seems there's knives god knows what else brought to the party - and often an ambulance involved and then even those guys and girls are in the line of fire.
The place has gone mad.

Crime rates, including violent crimes, have dropped significantly over the last 20 years.


Really? that surprises me.

The only violent crimes that have continued to rise since 2008 are incidents of sexual assault, but that could be due to the fact more people are reporting such crimes in a society that still has issues with dealing with these crimes, but has improved significantly in the last 30 years.


Interesting column. Im sure there's plenty of ways to decipher whats going on. It'll take my little brain a while to absorb those stats. Quite often others can show alternate figures that are equally impressive that indicate a different outcome I suppose. It's interesting that he suggests that the booze culture has taken a dive and that could be one reason to support less violence for sure.

Yeah, I remember seeing the author speak at some point when his book was released, I have meant to read it but haven't had the chance at this point.

An anecdotal point I will raise is music plays a very large role in my life and when you look at the Australian music scene in the late 70's venues were being damaged by what most would consider riots on an extremely regular occurrence at concerts.

Australia of the 70's and 80's had much more day to day violence than the world we live in now. Disagreements often were solved in fights after work etc. Even when I started working in the mid 90's I can remember organised fights after work. I could never imagine that happening now.

I think you will also find the reduction of violence in sport has coincided with changing community expectations in regard to violence as a whole.

All of that is anecdotal and only my opinion but I think the crime rates support that view as well.

 

[happy_tiger]

I feel this is a tragic story with a few factors contributing. No doubt Jarryd is lacking some basic foundational values, probably due to growing up always being told he is a superstar. When interviewed throughout his career I always got the feeling he lacked intelligence.

Add to that the binge drinking culture that has always existed in rugby league and the fact that he was left to travel to Sydney alone after a 2 day bucks party (where were his ‘friends’?). Anyone who has ever been on the booze for two days makes terrible decisions.

I also think its ridiculous the access that the general public has to players these days through social media, if I was managing one of them it would be in the contract that they switch off that avenue for the general public to access them.

Clearly this young lady at one time was interested in Hayne romantically, (in no way does that excuse his behaviour) but she came across him in the most horrendous set of circumstances.

He will pay for it as he should.

Dunno about that ... me and 11 others made it back 200 kms from a 3 days bucks weekend .....then again I doubted anyone who'd seen us after two days would have thought we'd survive to day 3

Guess again it's understanding your limits and doing the right thing in the end

 

[rustycage]

He's a few years younger than me and due to various circumstances. I saw him play footy since about the age of 15 or 16.

Around the same time I heard he was a freak in athletics and took out national titles without ever having a coach or proper training.

The first time I saw him play, there was never any doubt in my mind he would be a great player.

He was a big kid and scored four or five tries without breaking a sweat. He had a truckload of confidence (most would say arrogance) which told you he wouldn't be awed at the top level.

I never totally liked the guy but enjoyed seeing him do well over the years. Some of the stuff that he did single-handedly for Parramatta and NSW was like watching that 15 year old kid all over again.

It really blew my mind to then see him play for the 49ers and I was disappointed he didn't make it.

After that, he never seemed to me like the same person when he came back to play for the Titans. He'd lost the spark he had before.

Personally, the stuff that came out of the recent court case is absolutely sickening and I hope they throw the book at the bloke. For mine, this will now always define him rather than his on-field achievements.

I also hope the NRL will take a step back and think about the culture of the game, as I think there's a chance this case is symptomatic of deeper problems in the game.

Not just the game, but society in general i think. Violence on the screen, music, we have become de- sencorsised .

I believe that is a bit of a furphy, society is much less violent than it was even 40 years ago.


Not sure how you'd measure that, but I think personally that if anything, the level of violence is more intense. For instance, there was no stomping on heads of the already unconscious that I recall. There might have been a lot of bar brawls but they'd end without ambulances in the main. Nowadays it seems there's knives god knows what else brought to the party - and often an ambulance involved and then even those guys and girls are in the line of fire.
The place has gone mad.

Crime rates, including violent crimes, have dropped significantly over the last 20 years.


Really? that surprises me.

The only violent crimes that have continued to rise since 2008 are incidents of sexual assault, but that could be due to the fact more people are reporting such crimes in a society that still has issues with dealing with these crimes, but has improved significantly in the last 30 years.


Interesting column. Im sure there's plenty of ways to decipher whats going on. It'll take my little brain a while to absorb those stats. Quite often others can show alternate figures that are equally impressive that indicate a different outcome I suppose. It's interesting that he suggests that the booze culture has taken a dive and that could be one reason to support less violence for sure.

Yeah, I remember seeing the author speak at some point when his book was released, I have meant to read it but haven't had the chance at this point.

An anecdotal point I will raise is music plays a very large role in my life and when you look at the Australian music scene in the late 70's venues were being damaged by what most would consider riots on an extremely regular occurrence at concerts.

Australia of the 70's and 80's had much more day to day violence than the world we live in now. Disagreements often were solved in fights after work etc. Even when I started working in the mid 90's I can remember organised fights after work. I could never imagine that happening now.

I think you will also find the reduction of violence in sport has coincided with changing community expectations in regard to violence as a whole.

All of that is anecdotal and only my opinion but I think the crime rates support that view as well.

I just had a look at the QLD crime stats. Over the last 20 or so years, there appears (at first glance) to be no significant reduction of crime during that period with the exception of homicide (murder) and homicide (other) so who really knows where it's at? Like I mentioned earlier, my gut tells me that there's less overall violence, but it can often be quite a bit more extreme when it does occur.

https://mypolice.qld.gov.au/queensland-crime-statistics/

We're kind of off track here as far as Jarryd Hayne goes though.

 

[dazza65]

He's a few years younger than me and due to various circumstances. I saw him play footy since about the age of 15 or 16.

Around the same time I heard he was a freak in athletics and took out national titles without ever having a coach or proper training.

The first time I saw him play, there was never any doubt in my mind he would be a great player.

He was a big kid and scored four or five tries without breaking a sweat. He had a truckload of confidence (most would say arrogance) which told you he wouldn't be awed at the top level.

I never totally liked the guy but enjoyed seeing him do well over the years. Some of the stuff that he did single-handedly for Parramatta and NSW was like watching that 15 year old kid all over again.

It really blew my mind to then see him play for the 49ers and I was disappointed he didn't make it.

After that, he never seemed to me like the same person when he came back to play for the Titans. He'd lost the spark he had before.

Personally, the stuff that came out of the recent court case is absolutely sickening and I hope they throw the book at the bloke. For mine, this will now always define him rather than his on-field achievements.

I also hope the NRL will take a step back and think about the culture of the game, as I think there's a chance this case is symptomatic of deeper problems in the game.

Not just the game, but society in general i think. Violence on the screen, music, we have become de- sencorsised .

I believe that is a bit of a furphy, society is much less violent than it was even 40 years ago.


Not sure how you'd measure that, but I think personally that if anything, the level of violence is more intense. For instance, there was no stomping on heads of the already unconscious that I recall. There might have been a lot of bar brawls but they'd end without ambulances in the main. Nowadays it seems there's knives god knows what else brought to the party - and often an ambulance involved and then even those guys and girls are in the line of fire.
The place has gone mad.

Crime rates, including violent crimes, have dropped significantly over the last 20 years.


Really? that surprises me.

Razor gangs of the 20/30’s ..... blood literally running in the streets

 

[Newtown]

He's a few years younger than me and due to various circumstances. I saw him play footy since about the age of 15 or 16.

Around the same time I heard he was a freak in athletics and took out national titles without ever having a coach or proper training.

The first time I saw him play, there was never any doubt in my mind he would be a great player.

He was a big kid and scored four or five tries without breaking a sweat. He had a truckload of confidence (most would say arrogance) which told you he wouldn't be awed at the top level.

I never totally liked the guy but enjoyed seeing him do well over the years. Some of the stuff that he did single-handedly for Parramatta and NSW was like watching that 15 year old kid all over again.

It really blew my mind to then see him play for the 49ers and I was disappointed he didn't make it.

After that, he never seemed to me like the same person when he came back to play for the Titans. He'd lost the spark he had before.

Personally, the stuff that came out of the recent court case is absolutely sickening and I hope they throw the book at the bloke. For mine, this will now always define him rather than his on-field achievements.

I also hope the NRL will take a step back and think about the culture of the game, as I think there's a chance this case is symptomatic of deeper problems in the game.

Not just the game, but society in general i think. Violence on the screen, music, we have become de- sencorsised .

I believe that is a bit of a furphy, society is much less violent than it was even 40 years ago.


Not sure how you'd measure that, but I think personally that if anything, the level of violence is more intense. For instance, there was no stomping on heads of the already unconscious that I recall. There might have been a lot of bar brawls but they'd end without ambulances in the main. Nowadays it seems there's knives god knows what else brought to the party - and often an ambulance involved and then even those guys and girls are in the line of fire.
The place has gone mad.

Crime rates, including violent crimes, have dropped significantly over the last 20 years.

Those crime rates may be falling but crime rates associated with reported violence to women is escalating.

 

[cochise]

He's a few years younger than me and due to various circumstances. I saw him play footy since about the age of 15 or 16.

Around the same time I heard he was a freak in athletics and took out national titles without ever having a coach or proper training.

The first time I saw him play, there was never any doubt in my mind he would be a great player.

He was a big kid and scored four or five tries without breaking a sweat. He had a truckload of confidence (most would say arrogance) which told you he wouldn't be awed at the top level.

I never totally liked the guy but enjoyed seeing him do well over the years. Some of the stuff that he did single-handedly for Parramatta and NSW was like watching that 15 year old kid all over again.

It really blew my mind to then see him play for the 49ers and I was disappointed he didn't make it.

After that, he never seemed to me like the same person when he came back to play for the Titans. He'd lost the spark he had before.

Personally, the stuff that came out of the recent court case is absolutely sickening and I hope they throw the book at the bloke. For mine, this will now always define him rather than his on-field achievements.

I also hope the NRL will take a step back and think about the culture of the game, as I think there's a chance this case is symptomatic of deeper problems in the game.

Not just the game, but society in general i think. Violence on the screen, music, we have become de- sencorsised .

I believe that is a bit of a furphy, society is much less violent than it was even 40 years ago.


Not sure how you'd measure that, but I think personally that if anything, the level of violence is more intense. For instance, there was no stomping on heads of the already unconscious that I recall. There might have been a lot of bar brawls but they'd end without ambulances in the main. Nowadays it seems there's knives god knows what else brought to the party - and often an ambulance involved and then even those guys and girls are in the line of fire.
The place has gone mad.

Crime rates, including violent crimes, have dropped significantly over the last 20 years.

Those crime rates may be falling but crime rates associated with reported violence to women is escalating.

I addressed that as well, I believe that could possibly be because we are in a time, that while still horrible it is easier to report than in past.